User talk:Scartol/Archives/2008/April

For Scartol, master of copyediting

For Scartol, with my many thanks

I wish this were a barnstar, but it serves the same purpose. Thank you for your massive copyediting skills in To Kill a Mockingbird. I would not have been able to feature it without your support, suggestions, and help. --Moni3 (talk) 22:15, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Images of the film in the article are being challenged. I believe it was you who told me that the copyright had expired for the film. Is there a reliable source for that? --Moni3 (talk) 02:56, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

I'm here all week

It's funny because it's true! Thanks for making me smile. :) María (habla conmigo) 12:11, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Fix for imagequote2 indenting

Someone commented to me that they had tried the table method and it did not look right. I saw that it looked ok in FireFox but was failing to indent in IE. That surprised me as I could have sworn I tested both. At any rate, I moved the indent form the table to the TD which fixes it for IE and also indented the right side a little to get the "quote" look.

You will see an edit/revert as I intended to Imagequote2 this message to you but was surprised to see {{{1}}} displayed on your talk page. I'm not sure what the issue is but we can't Imagequote2 my signature.

Testing finds that we can't have a span-style element within an Imagequote. The puzzle is that it's affecting the wikitext engine and so I'm wondering if using css style overrides is 100% portable. This is a nested Imagequote2 which seems to work.

Marc Kupper (talk) (contribs) 06:14, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

I did a test with both FireFox (ver 2.0.0.13) and IE (ver 6.0) and for both <blockquote> indents by 38px both left and right. I'll leave it up to you on if you want to use the existing 2em spacing or to match the {{bquote}} / blockquote affect which is 38 pixels. While I generally use em and percent size controls on my own web pages I'm leaning towards 38px in this case for consistency with the more widely used quote methods.

Another thought is to put an actual <blockquote> within the table but also to make the table style to "margin: 0; padding: 0; border-spacing: 0" to make sure the table itself does not introduce any extra spacing. I played with this and with FireFox it it was ok (I needed a "padding: 0;" on the TD too) but with IE it seemed like the table+blockquote introduced a 3-pixel margin. Iirc, with IE there are times you need to to negative margins. In thinking about this I suspect the straight "padding: 0 38px" or "padding: 0 38px 0 38px" is safest and will be portable. Marc Kupper (talk) (contribs) 07:21, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Miguel Ángel Asturias update?

Hi -- I'm trying to do a status update for the WP:MMM articles, since the deadline (April 10) is getting close, and I was wondering how the editors are doing on the GA review for Miguel Ángel Asturias. Are they getting close? If you can spare the time to point out specific things that would need to be fixed, that would be very useful. Thanks -- Mike Christie (talk) 15:04, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Hi, I see that you are an active GAN reviewer. Is there any change that I can get you to give Armageddon (2007) a pre-GA review? iMatthew 2008 22:15, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Request for peer review

Hi! I was wondering if you'd be able to look over this peer review (article). It's got a long way to go, and any input would be greatly appreciated. :) This spam message brought to you on behalf of the current Tzatziki Squad collaboration. Thanks, Keilana|^{Parlez ici} 22:24, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

PR Request

Hey, I found you on the volunteer list and was hoping you could pop on over to a little article I'm hoping to make into at least a GA. The article is Posting system (PR) and I'm hoping you can help with layout, organization and any other general grammar problems. Thanks! Torsodog (talk) 00:02, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Template:User Primer

This needs to be userfied per WP:UBM. Did you want to move it somewhere into your userspace? xenocidic (talk) 17:25, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

No problem! xenocidic (talk) 18:19, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Question about citation

Dear Scartol, I have been using Harvard citation because I like to be able to see the referenced author on the main text. However, I have noticed that if I am quoting a web source, such as a PDF found on line, the template of the quotation does not allow me to include pages. You can only inlcude the pages when referencing a journal.

For this reason I've change the way I cite to the regular one, where I can include pages. However, for the articles I have done already, I believe that lacking the option to include page numbers leave the citation somehow incomplete.

So my question is, do you know how to include page number when citing a web source on Harvard? Thank you -- anunezsanchez (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 18:17, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Citation 2

Hi Scartol! Thank you so much for getting back to me so soon.

What do you mean by making the citatiions by hand? Do you costumize the editing everytime?

I have also added two more pages, Water Resources Management in Brazil and Irrigation in Brazil, together with the two about WRM and Irrigation in Peru and Mexico. I hope I am not giving you to much work.

Finally, my signature is always giving me problems. I have fix it a number of times but it always turns out wrong. I am copying the one you use but it seems to be something else I do worng and can't figure out. :(

Thanks! ----[[User:anunezsanchez|anunezsanchez]] ([[Usertalk:anunezsanchez|talk]]) (talk) 20:09, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Citation 3

Dear Scartol, You were right! I just added by hand the pages in the formula I had for the citations and it worked perfectly. Thank you! Let me know what you think about my new articles. -- [user:anunezsanchez|anunezsanchez]] (talk) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Anunezsanchez (talk • contribs) 13:08, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Citation 4

Thank you so much for your help! I am hoping my signature will work now. I am looking forward to your comments on Water Resources Management in Brazil and Mexico, as well as Irrigation in Brazil and Mexico. Also, there is a water resources management by country page, with the three notes (including Peru) I have been working on. Somebody didi that for me. Do you know how I could do the same and create a Irrigation by country page? THANK YOU--anunezsanchez (talk) 13:51, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Emmy Noether fork

Having two versions of the Emmy Noether article is confusing, as it is not clear which version to edit (and if both versions get edited then merging them will be a mess). Instead I suggest moving your version back to the mainspace and putting an {{underconstruction}} or {{inuse}} template at the top. R.e.b. (talk) 03:03, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

DYK

On 16 April, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Anna Johnson Pell Wheeler, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Cirt (talk) 12:35, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Le barnstar of diligence

		The Barnstar of Diligence
		For diligently moving all their userboxen properly into their userspace. xenocidic (talk) 15:20, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

No problem! Will do. Hopefully there's room on my list! (100 is way too few...) =) xenocidic (talk) 15:30, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Congratulations!?

Emma is going to be famous! Awadewit (talk) 15:31, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Please consider taking the AGF Challenge

I would like to invite you to consider taking part in the AGF Challenge which has been proposed for use in the RfA process [1] by User: Kim Bruning. You can answer in multiple choice format, or using essay answers, or anonymously. You can of course skip any parts of the Challenge you find objectionable or inadvisable.--Filll (talk) 16:03, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Emma Goldman

Please see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Philosophy/Anarchism#Emma Goldman. — Malik Shabazz (talk · contribs) 22:06, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Request for peer review

Hi there, I found you on the volunteers list and I would most appreciate it if you could provide feedback for this article: Wikipedia:Peer review/Paul Rand/archive1. Thanks! — Wackymacs (talk) 17:20, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

No worries, I will ask WillowW as you suggested. Thanks! — Wackymacs (talk) 17:40, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Today's featured article

Congratulations on "today's featured article" Emma Goldman. My God! You have done wonders on Wikipedia, congratulations on all of your featured and good articles. Keep up the great work! Your old friend, Al Ameer son (talk) 05:49, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Another request

Hey, I was wondering if you would be willing to copyedit (or atlest let us know what needs concentrated on) Slipknot (album)? It's been rejected as a good article, the reviewers said it needed copyedited and an expansion of the reception section (I was not aware there was a minumum number of reviews required, we cannot find more in any case). They also said it needed a copyedit, we cannot figure out what they mean, despite me asking them which sections to concentrate on they have not answered. As you seem to give good explination as to what needs improvement, it would be helpful if you could let us know. Another article, (which has already been given GA status) we're trying to get up to FA is Slipknot (band). The article has been requested at the League of Copyeditors and two people have said they would do it, it's been over a month and neither has responded. If your busy or these article don't intrest you, I would apprciate if you could atleast let us know someone who might be willing to do them. Thanks! Blackngold29 (talk) 16:11, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

OK, thanks anyway. I've worked on Myron Cope some, but still need to do some work before a review. It seems to be more up your alley, so I'll let you know in a few weeks (or months), hopefully you'll have some time then. Thanks! Blackngold29 21:26, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

TFA madness

Hey congrats on another TFA! Just FYI, I left a note for this user. She was warned for removing an image here. At the time she removed it, however, it wasn't a map of Lithuania. Somebody on Wikimedia Commons had replaced it with a pornographic shock image. [2]. I fixed the image on commons and restored it to the article, but wanted to leave a note explaining in case you saw my comment to Ramonna. I actually thought Commons had some sort of protection against this. Guess not. Ugh... --JayHenry (talk) 20:43, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

The day, in UTC terms, is almost over! :) Hope you are doing well! Awadewit (talk) 21:50, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

I hope you're doing well, too! It was great to see Emma's picture on the Main Page today, and it brought back very nice memories. Congratulations and I hope that the TFA didn't bring you to the brink of madness. ;) Still thinking you both are the bee's knees for helping me with that, Willow (talk) 00:33, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

PS. Do you like Portishead? I like to listen to the same album over and over again while I work on an article, and this time, perhaps aptly, it's Dummy. ;) It has a nice, morbidly elegiac mood. Their Third album is coming out soon, so my enthusiasm is timely, too. ;) Oh, on April Fool's Day, I discovered a really demented webcomic with Shakespearean pretensions and a Wikipedia entry. I haven't explored it, but my first thought was that your students might enjoy it; it's kind of like a twisted 21st century update of Don Marquis' Shakespeare poems. Willow (talk) 00:33, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Oh, I love Dinosaur Comics! My favorite Web comic by far. Almost every one is brilliant. p.s. Scartol, I left a comment on your AGF challenge answers. A provocative bunch of questions, I've been thinking of answering some myself... might just use your page :) pps, while I'm here, in exchange for Emmy would you be willing to take a look at Zelda Fitzgerald some time? I'm still chipping away at it, but would like to take it to FAC eventually. I'm building up to tackle the literary giants like all of you, and this seemed like a good way to work my way to F. Scott Fitzgerald or Gatsby. --JayHenry (talk) 01:23, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Emmy Noether

Hi, I saw your request for info on the asteroid 7001 Noether, and left some info on the Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Astronomical objects page. But I only realized later that you already have her article, and wanted to document the connection with the asteroid. I'm pretty sure the asteroid was named for her because her formidable reputation extends to physics as well as pure mathematics, but I am not absolutely certain. I suppose it is even possible it was named after the Noether family, as several distinguished people are associated with the name. Wwheaton (talk) 06:54, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

I should probably help....Although I didn't study much of her stuff in great detail....Blnguyen (bananabucket) 01:25, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

I'll try to give a hand with the Noether's theorem stuff. (I'll also have a look out some of the ring stuff but is not really my specialty) (TimothyRias (talk) 06:36, 14 April 2008 (UTC))

The second part, indeed, could do with a source. As it stands now, it is basically me shaking stuff out of my wrist. And altough I believe most theoretical physicist would agree with what is written there, it is wide upon for a POV challenge. There have been many books on the role of symmetry in modern physics, so there should be at least one that states something similar to this. (TimothyRias (talk) 12:40, 14 April 2008 (UTC))

On April 21, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Emmy Noether, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

hi there Scartol. I put this in the pictured slot. Hopefully it will get more than 10k hits today, which is the norm for pictured slots. More publicity!! Blnguyen (bananabucket) 06:48, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Peer Review Request

Greetings! I have recently done a complete revision of the article about PNC Park. I found your name on the list of peer review volunteers and see that you have done many great things when it comes to Good and Featured articles. I would much appreciate it if you could review it for me. If you have any questions, suggestions, comments, whatever please leave them on my talk page and I will answer them as soon as I humanly can. Thank you! Blackngold29 (talk) 20:49, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for the review. I will go through and try to fix your suggestions. A few questions/comments:

• The "all 23 labor unions" was misread by me. It was all 23 unions "involved". I will correct it.
• The ESPN review said: "But at least the team and the city got the ballpark right. No, not just right. Perfect. This is the perfect blend of location, history, design, comfort and baseball." So I guess I could clarify that by using that quote. I guess the scores were for the overall experience of visiting the park. Although it still seems like a contradiction on his part.
• The out-of-town scoreboard is on the right field wall, it shows the score of the other games currently been playing around the league. Before the re-write the article claimed that it is one of the most extensive in the league, and is updated instantly using some automated system; I omitted the latter because there was no source. I have no doubt that it is one of the most extensive (most give only the score), but that isn't really a subject that one would write an article about; so sources are hard to come by.
• The "bidding" would definately be a good thing to include, although I can't remember coming accross an article that included that. One thing that frustrates me is that since all of that took place seven years ago, and articles tend to become burried, even on the internet. I've learned my lesson and will be keeping the New Pittsburgh Arena udated.

Thank you once again, I will make the changes. There was also intrest raised in creating a paragraph about college games played at the stadium. Once I get it all done I'll let you know, hopefully it shouldn't need anything after that. Thanks! Blackngold29 (talk) 16:31, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Hey, I went down your list and got pretty much everything. The two things that I had trouble with were:

1. The bidding process. I can find very little on the internet about this, in my limited knowledge of areana designers HOK Sport seems to have done a ton of them. And they have a very good track record. It wouldn't suprise me if they were picked with little opposition. Even the New Pittsburgh Arena which has been in the news lately is being designed by them and I can't recall seeing anything about bidding for that project. Now that I think about it (although I am not an expert) it would seem that Plan B gave a set amount of money to the designer, so the city probably wasn't concerned with getting the lowest cost possible, as is usually the case. It also may have somehting to do with the fact that they designed Heinz Field at the same time, also under Plan B.
2. Financial impact. I have found a few articles stating things like "Public leaders who supported the stadiums have said the region has benefited with increased development on the North Shore, particularly on and near Federal Street, east of PNC Park." which is fine, but I would prefer finding some with actual numbers. I'll keep looking and add this stuff soon.

That about sums it up, if you want to look over it again just to make sure the changes I made were what you meant that would be great. I guess after that it's onto putting it up for GA review. Thanks! Blackngold29 19:48, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Modest proposal

Hi Scartol, I replied on my talk page, but then realized you might not have watchlisted the page. Karanacs (talk) 14:45, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Edits in Irrigation in Peru

Thank you so much for your comments on Irrigation in Peru. I appreciate your idea of having the article nominated for a Good Article, and the thought of it is a great incentive to better the article.

I have deliver the information on the Government strategy in prose and avoided two senteces paragraphs. I will include page numbers in the next week. It is a cumbersome task and will take some days. I will let you know when I am done so we can proceed.

I can't wait to learning all about the Good Article process in Wikipedia. Thank you very much for walking me through it. --anunezsanchez (talk) 15:03, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

All the citation for the article Irrigation in Peru has been corrected. All the references that correspond to documents include now also page numbers. The other references corresponding to web sites do not have page information. Could we nominate this as a Good Article then? Thank you so much--anunezsanchez (talk) 16:52, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

I haz a donut!

<Homer Simpson> Mmm FA donut... </Homer Simpson> I could say that I will cherish it always, but where's the fun in that? Om nom nom. Thanks for your help, support, and delicious baked goods! María (habla conmigo) 12:00, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Im in ur talk page leavn' irritatin messagez!

Can we leave messages here in lolcat? How applicable is the copy edit cartoon at the top? Actually, I'm not looking for a copy edit as much as I'm looking for a glance-through for too many elbows in prose for Marjory Stoneman Douglas. I haz a cookie, and I did not eated it. You cud be ossim. --Moni3 (talk) 23:12, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

FAC of Degrassi

Thanks for commenting at the peer review of Degrassi: The Next Generation at the beginning of the month. I have now listed it at WP:FAC. Any further comments you have regarding the article will be greatly appreciated. Regardless, thanks for the help with it so far -- ṃ•α•Ł•ṭ•ʰ•Ə•Щ• @ 00:59, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

IOET

Hello there. You will have no doubt noticed I've been doing some work on Indonesian occupation of East Timor. Please cast your eye over the changes. I'd particularly like to raise with you the paragraph on the Portugal response. I included the info I have to hand (Schwartz) and also Marker (although is back at the library now), and it seems to be a little different to what you had written - in fact, I've hidden or even removed some of the original info. Ie, the old version and newer version. What do you think? --Merbabu (talk) 04:31, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

!!!

Did you see this? User:WillowW!! Awadewit (talk) 02:47, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

I did. --Moni3 (talk) 02:54, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Oof. When working on Zelda (I came here to thank you for your help with that, by the way!) one of my guiding principles was a comment Willow made about JD Salinger, "One thing you all might consider is whether you could breathe more life into the article while keeping it professional and encyclopedic?" Perfect advice for any article, really. --JayHenry (talk) 06:56, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

images

How do you put an image from your computer on to wikipedia?--Altenhofen (talk) 17:33, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Copy-editing request

Hi there. I am writing for your assistance for the article NeXT. It is currently up at FAC, and has done very well so far, but one reviewer has noted the article needs a copy-edit from an editor not already involved. I am the main contributor, and would love to see this finally become a featured article (it's failed three times already). A list of the main issues which need addressing can be found at Wikipedia:Featured_article_candidates/NeXT. Please let me know if you can get around to copy-editing this within the week. Thanks! — Wackymacs (talk) 20:19, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

My end of the bargain...

I'm dropping the ball on Emmy aren't I? I've not forgotten, I promise! I'm terribly sorry to be slow here. I vow not to work anymore on Zelda until I've been able to look at Emmy. Thanks again with your help on ZF, by the way. I just ordered a handful of new Fitzgerald books off of Amazon (Scott and my namesake are the eventual goal... building up to it) and will read through them before I go any further anyways. I'm edging toward having work presentable to our leading literary scholar; I'm excited but also worried that she'll think me a dunce. "You might be better off sticking to hippos," she'll say after patiently setting me straight on dozens of blunders. We'll see :) --JayHenry (talk) 02:55, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Water resources management in Brazil

Dear Scartol,

The references on the Water resources management in Brazil are not ordered alphabetically anymore after the contribution of other user to the article. Do you know how to fix this? Thank you very much!--anunezsanchez (talk) 16:35, 30 April 2008 (UTC)