User talk:Scalhotrod/Archive 12
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On Asian pornogrpahic list
I have this page on watchlist for last 1 day. If I saw edit war, or opposition on Main page, it will be a issue then. For now it's clear that we can add only notable people on the list. Bladesmulti (talk) 03:45, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
- I no longer care, the list article is not worth the effort. I'm moving on to other articles. --Scalhotrod - Just your average banjo playing, drag racing, cowboy... (talk) 03:52, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
- Assisting in stirring up hornet's nests and then "moving on" isn't very productive behavior. I understand that you've been frustrated with some of your choices of topics to edit on Wikipedia, but you really need to be more strategic in your thinking in how you word or emphasize things on talk pages & boards. IMHO, you haven't been very helpful in those terms, and it needs to change. Guy1890 (talk) 21:58, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
- There are different reasons to make a variety of comments. Sometimes its to interject common sense into the conversation and other times its just to make others contemplate other possibilities beyond their own narrow thinking. I appreciate your sentiment, but trying to guess or presume any motive I have other than wanting this site to contain as much reliable information as possible is pointless.
- Assisting in stirring up hornet's nests and then "moving on" isn't very productive behavior. I understand that you've been frustrated with some of your choices of topics to edit on Wikipedia, but you really need to be more strategic in your thinking in how you word or emphasize things on talk pages & boards. IMHO, you haven't been very helpful in those terms, and it needs to change. Guy1890 (talk) 21:58, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
- By the way, I've moved on from that particular article, but I'm far from giving up on editing porn articles or defending the 1st Amendment and that's, in some small part, what I consider this debate. I refuse to let a WP policy be change so easily. Wikipedia will ultimately succeed or fail based on these types of discussions. You're welcome to disagree or just not feel as strongly.
- This is the far more important discussion currently taking place... PORNBIO. --Scalhotrod - Just your average banjo playing, drag racing, cowboy... (talk) 19:33, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
- I really don't think that you see the bigger picture here, and, to be fair, you're not the only Wikipedia user that's been acting in this way in recent weeks. Posting overly provocative comments on talk pages and then walking away soon after does not further whatever goal(s) you have here on Wikipedia. All your recent comments have really done is open up a variety of discussions (in more important venues on Wikipedia) which are ending up openly questioning the validity of a key reference (IAFD) that's used in literally hundreds (if not thousands) of pornography-related articles, which is not constructive on any level. This isn't about the "defending the 1st Amendment", since obviously no one has an Constitutional right to have an article on Wikipedia. All I am asking you to do is stop and try & think several moves ahead to be sure that your actions & words here don't end up hurting the very cause(s) that you appear to be trying to champion. Guy1890 (talk) 02:52, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
- This is the far more important discussion currently taking place... PORNBIO. --Scalhotrod - Just your average banjo playing, drag racing, cowboy... (talk) 19:33, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
Guy, you keep trying to make a point, but leave out either many of your assumptions or supporting evidence. Furthermore, since we seem to have similar interests, I'm happy to collaborate, but as yet I still don't understand what stance you are taking other than "don't make waves because of unknown repercussions". One of the tenets of the site is Bold, Revert, Discuss. If you don't believe in this or wish to use the process, I can respect that, but I'm still trying to understand what the "way of thinking" is you're trying to impress upon me.
On a separate note, yes, I completely agree that "no one has a Constitutional right to have an article on Wikipedia", but I'm unsure as to why that statement is necessary in this conversation unless you truly don't understand the significance of the 1st Amendment to the Adult industry. Then again, I would be very curious as to how an interpretation of Pruneyard Shopping Center v. Robins could be applied to Wikipedia. The Adult industry's very existence is based on 1st Amendment claims, precedents, and standings. 1st Amendment issues are one of the main reasons that I continue to edit Adult related articles on Wikipedia.
Finally, if IAFD is a "weak link" in the chain that holds the sourcing together for many of the porn articles, then quite obviously we need to better establish it and make it less challengable or at least have ample evidence in hand when someone ignorant of its uses and background starts taking shots at it. And if we can't, then so be it and there will be far fewer new porn articles written and the ones that are created will have to be better sourced. I have no desire or agenda for their to be 100s, 1000s, or Nth number of Adult related article unless they are Notable in the context of the Adult industry. On the Talk page both you and Srich have acknowledged that its an acceptable source, but that it alone can not be used to establish WP:Notability. Not only do I agree with that, but I think its a reasonable guideline under the policy of WP:Context and whatever else may apply. But if major sources for any industry are going to be challenged, these discussions need to take place on a regular basis to maintain their effectiveness as a source.
All of this taken together only makes the site better. --Scalhotrod - Just your average banjo playing, drag racing, cowboy... (talk) 22:47, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
- Wikipedia has little to do with the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, and the sooner that you realize that, the better. No one is going to sucessfully sue Wikipedia to force coverage of any particular subject on Wikipedia. The fact is that, as I'm sure you are well aware of by now, there are many (sometimes powerful) forces at work on Wikipedia that would like to wipe out as much coverage of pornography-related issues as possible from Wikipedia. Your recent actions (along with, to be fair, others IMO) have been doing more to help out those forces than blunt them, and, if you can't see that for yourself, then fine. I can't help you out any more...you can just learn the hard way. Good luck... Guy1890 (talk) 02:04, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
- Guy, the sad thing is that we probably agree on a lot of things, but our communication styles are preventing us for reaching any kind of mutual understanding. You're entitled to your beliefs and I sincerely wish that you could explain them better. I also wish that you tried to understand my viewpoints better, so my apologies for not explaining them better. Best of luck to you too, --Scalhotrod - Just your average banjo playing, drag racing, cowboy... (talk) 02:55, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
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I am inquiring about whether the two women named Brooke on the show - from 2002 and 2013 - are one in the same. I may have to fix my edit on Aly Michalka if I determine that they are not. — Glenn L (talk) 23:06, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
- I think its just one of those unfortunate circumstances where the same name was used and the writers just didn't realize it. Plus the way that IMDb works, it would match the two together since they are spelled identically. It's definitely not an intentional error on anyone's part. --Scalhotrod - Just your average banjo playing, drag racing, cowboy... (talk) 23:42, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
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