User talk:Sarahnach
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[edit]Hello, Sarahnach, and Welcome to Wikipedia!
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Children in infobox
[edit]Please see the instructions for Template:Infobox person. The Children field should be total number of children; names are only listed when that child has a Wikipedia article to link to. Hope that helps. Schazjmd (talk) 00:05, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
- OK, but I have seen other info boxes in Wikipedia articles including the names of children who do not have their own Wikipedia pages. I suppose some Wikipedia articles about famous people are monitored more closely than others. It doesn't make sense to me that although the page includes content on Vanessa, the rules don't allow her being added to the info box. What is the rationale for that? Sarahnach (talk) 00:29, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
- I wasn't involved in any of the discussions that led to the directions for infoboxes, so I don't know what rationale was behind that decision. I'd guess it was a compromise between editors who wanted number of children only and editors who wanted every child's name included. Note that the guidance is the same for parents (only list in infobox if they have an article). If you see an article where children are named in the infobox without linking to an article about them, feel free to fix it to number only. For any rule on wikipedia, I'm sure you can find an article that violates it. Sometimes it's because the editor wasn't aware of the rule, sometimes because they don't agree with the rule, sometimes it was in the article before the rule was decided. It stays because no editor who was aware of the rule has noticed it. With millions of articles, it's easy for things to get overlooked.Infoboxes are a contentious topic on wikipedia anyway. There are some editors opposed to having an infobox on articles at all. There are some editors who think that every article should have an infobox. (If you're interested, take a look at findings of fact in the arbitration case.) If you want to pursue questioning or changing that guidance, I'd suggest starting at Template_talk:Infobox_person; editors watching that page might have a better answer for "why". Schazjmd (talk) 14:46, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
- Wow! Thanks so much for the detailed reply and the links! Sarahnach (talk) 13:55, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- I wasn't involved in any of the discussions that led to the directions for infoboxes, so I don't know what rationale was behind that decision. I'd guess it was a compromise between editors who wanted number of children only and editors who wanted every child's name included. Note that the guidance is the same for parents (only list in infobox if they have an article). If you see an article where children are named in the infobox without linking to an article about them, feel free to fix it to number only. For any rule on wikipedia, I'm sure you can find an article that violates it. Sometimes it's because the editor wasn't aware of the rule, sometimes because they don't agree with the rule, sometimes it was in the article before the rule was decided. It stays because no editor who was aware of the rule has noticed it. With millions of articles, it's easy for things to get overlooked.Infoboxes are a contentious topic on wikipedia anyway. There are some editors opposed to having an infobox on articles at all. There are some editors who think that every article should have an infobox. (If you're interested, take a look at findings of fact in the arbitration case.) If you want to pursue questioning or changing that guidance, I'd suggest starting at Template_talk:Infobox_person; editors watching that page might have a better answer for "why". Schazjmd (talk) 14:46, 12 November 2024 (UTC)