User talk:Sandhillcrane

Please stop. If you continue to vandalize pages, as you did to Tiger, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia.  :: Colin Keigher (Talk) 16:27, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Vandalism?

I would like to known what you consider "vandalism" regarding my contributions on that page.

While I do believe I used that template quite hastily, I would disengage from making such large edits like that because it does come across as vandalism. I would discuss the matter of your changes in the Tiger page before doing so. Also, try to sign any comment you make using four tildes as so, ~~~~. Thanks :: Colin Keigher (Talk) 16:55, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

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User page

It would be good if you wrote a little (not too much) about yourself on your user page. It is not a home page, but it belongs to the wiki as general information. Perhaps, take an interest in the layout of others' users pages before starting your own. Snowman 15:41, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Secretary Bird

Hello. Can you please provide references for your addition to Secretary Bird? Wikipedia needs such information to be based on more than your own knowledge of the subject. Please provide a book(s)/article(s) etc that you base this on, and add it to the information in the article. If you do not know how, please look at the other references or leave a note on the talk page. Cheers and happy editing. MadMaxDog 07:47, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Bears

Regarding your change to the bear article, you're right of course, the danger emanating from bears is a relative thing. Bears are for the most part _potentially_ dangerous for the most part depending on human behavior (sneak up on a grizzly and find out) and there have been cases where usually starving weaker young grizzly males have gone after humans as their last resort. Blacks bears are another story entirely. These are the most docile bears on the planet, hell I've seen pictures of one being cornered and chased up a tree by a house cat. A bunch of people have been keeping them for pets lately (the most demanding pet imaginable). Lynn Roger's research http://www.bearstudy.org/About_WRI/Lynn_Rogers.htm might be of interest.

There is one thing to keep in mind with Wikipedia. It was never meant to be up to date compendium of hard science or even to be truthful. More than anything it is a vehicle for the views of Jim Whales and his friends and they've created an environment where popular opinion prevails over fact. Sometimes there is collateral damage such as in your case. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 84.160.209.75 (talk) 08:23, 10 May 2007 (UTC).

Re: Bears

Of course, bears will far more often than not avoid contact with people. Attacks are often caused unintentionally by people when they surprise a bear or close a garbage dump that a bear may become dependant on. All bears are powerful animals and are capable of killing people. There are recorded incidents of every extant species of wild bear attacking people, with the possible exception of the Spectacled Bear. I'm aware that the threat that people pose to bears dwarves the threat that bears pose to people.

multiple recent edits

Please be sure to cite your sources when making edits. You've recently made numerous edits without a single citation. - UtherSRG (talk) 16:31, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Hi Sandhill. I notice you've been adding a lot of animal info. Glad you want to help out.

At a glance, you aren't citing your sources, as Uther notes, which isn't allowed. For the format of citations see the Wikipedia:Citation templates. Note, you don't have to actually use the templates, but the way they break out information is preferable. You might want to start a page for yourself to practice: User:Sandhillcrane/sandbox Marskell 21:20, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

September 2007

Hello. Please don't forget to provide an edit summary, which wasn't included with your recent edit to Michael Scofield. Thank you. - Taroaldo 16:26, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Sources

Hi. I noticed you've added a lot of interesting information about such and such a bird being the biggest in its family, smallest in its range, etc. Could you please include your sources with all those edits? That's Wikipedia policy and it makes sure the information is good. I'll be glad to help you with formatting references if you want, though often you can just copy what's already in the articles. —JerryFriedman (Talk) 20:51, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Crotalus adamanteus

Just a few minutes ago you made a change to the Crotalus adamanteus article that I'm afraid I could not let stand. You changed:

"... The largest rattlesnake species, the maximum sizes reported are 244.0 cm (8 ft) (Klauber, 1972) and 251.5 cm (Ditmars, 1936). One captive specimen weighed over 26 pounds (12 kg). ... (Campbell & Lamar, 2004)"

... to

"... The largest rattlesnake species, the maximum sizes reported are 244.0 cm (8 ft) (Klauber, 1972) and 251.5 cm (Ditmars, 1936), and were estimated to weigh approximately 22 kg (48 lb) each. ... (Campbell & Lamar, 2004)"

The problem here is twofold: first, you added new information to a section of text that was already accurately paraphrased and referenced. However, your new information cannot be found in the original source text. This makes it look like your information came from Campbell & Lamar, 2004, even though it didn't. Second, you deleted the statement, also referenced from the same source, that indicated the maximum reported weight. Basically, what you've done is to replace accurate and referenced information with information from an unknown source. This is not helpful. If you must add additional information, or replace existing information, make sure you add a new reference to show where you got it. (PS -- Please answer here if you must, as I've temporarily added your talk page to my watchlist). --Jwinius (talk) 14:02, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Bitis gabonica

In case you hadn't noticed, everything in the Bitis gabonica is neatly referenced. Please add a reference for your latest addition. (PS -- Please answer here if you must, as I've temporarily added your talk page to my watchlist). --Jwinius (talk) 14:07, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Actually, I've gone ahead and removed it. Comparisons with other viperid species really belong in the Viperidae article anyway. --Jwinius (talk) 17:09, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Formatting references

Hello, that was a good piece of information you added to Common Raven, but it would be helpful if you could format references using the cite format. This page - Template:Cite_web is helpful. There is also Template:Cite_book and Template:Cite_journal. Also, be wary of some web references as they are some way down the chain from even scholarly works. If in doubt just ask someone. Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 21:57, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Great Horned Owl

Hello Sandhill, thanks for the new information you added to Great Horned Owl and thank you for citing your source. I'm afraid I have reverted your change and I wanted to be sure to explain why. I took a look at the reference you cited http://www.canadianwildlife.ca/facts/Hornedowl.asp?page=/facts/Hornedowl and sure enough it does list 2.9kg as the high side weight for a Great-horned owl. I was curious about this as it contradicts the existing article. I checked the references cited at the bottom of that page and four of them were broken links. The ones that did work directly conflicted with the weight range cited in the article so the canadian wildlife page is not a very good source for information. Please keep working to improve pages but if you find a webpage that seems to conflict with what others have already written be sure the source is a good one. Thanks! Kirkmona (talk) 13:36, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Python reticulatus

Hi Sandhillcrane, Sorry to have reverted your latest contribution to Python reticulatus, but the report you found has been discussed several times before and has been found to be a gross exaggeration. Other news reports were later published that back this up. See the article "Stay still, will you?", published by The Guardian on 5 January 2004. --Jwinius (talk) 17:32, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

Asian bear size

I believe the reference is The Penny Cyclopædia of the Society for the Diffusion of Useful Knowledge. There is a viewable copy on google books if you'd like to check it out.Mariomassone (talk) 21:00, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Units

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Sarus wingspan

Do you have a reliable source for the 280 cm wingspan ? Please note at Talk:Sarus Crane - the ICF actually lists about 240 cm, afaik, wingspan is a tricky measure due to the subjectivity of its measurement and dependence on method used. Perhaps you have a journal reference for this change ? Thanks Shyamal (talk) 16:23, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

I based it on this page: http://www.oiseaux-birds.com/card-sarus-crane.html This other page also list Sarus as having a "9 foot wing span": http://www.cougarmountainzoo.org/The%20Animals/saruscranefact.aspx

The article incidentally was raised to GA status and one of the important features is the traceability to reliable sources such as books by specialists and journals. The above mentioned websites would not be considered particularly reliable. I also just noticed that the height was also exaggerated - most birds are 150 cm and the record bird was 180 cm but it seems like someone has rounded that off to 200 which is not very accurate. Shyamal (talk) 01:48, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

References

Hi, you have made several edits to articles about birds this evening which have left the pages with error messages showing in red towards the bottom, eg: Fork-tailed_Flycatcher. This has been because there was no {{reflist}} in the "References" section of the article. Next time you see this happen could you perhaps include that instruction rather than leaving the page in a "errored" state that causes it to display on the maintenance lists? It is usually easier for the person who made the edit to fix the problem than it is for someone who first has to work out what that person did before determining the changes necessary to fix it. It is not a big deal, but then it isn't a big deal to get it right once you know how. Thanks. - Sitush (talk) 22:11, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Ignoring my previous

It seems that you have possibly not considered my previous message about messing up articles on birds due to a failure to use the reflist template. Yet again, there are multiple pages last edited by you on the maintenance lists because the references are "broken" as a consequence of this. I am inclined to treat any further such edits as vandalism and revert them - you are adding useful information but in a poor manner. If you do not understand how to use this template then please do contact me on my talk page and I will explain it to you. It really is not diffivult & you'll get the hang of it very quickly. Thanks. - Sitush (talk) 00:22, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

I tried to see the Fork-tailed Flycatcher reference you referred to but was unable to see the difference in our postings so I had an exmaple. Are you saying that the links in my references are coming up red & not working? Thanks

I figured out what you're referring to. Thanks for the heads-up

Measurement sources

In some of the bird articles, the measurements from reliable regional handbooks are being overwritten with measurements from zoo sites and other non-reliable sources. Note that zoos often have hybrids/inbreds or birds of unknown pedigree and under/overnourished specimens while bird handbooks deal with variation within geographical populations. It would be preferable to entirely avoid citing stray zoo or bird websites as they are not considered as reliable sources. Perhaps you can also discuss this on WT:BIRD but I am afraid some of the measurements added are entirely dubious. Shyamal (talk) 02:08, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Unreferenced bird measurements

You are welcome to participate in the discussion at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Birds#Unreferenced_added_measurements_etc. | Snowman (talk) 21:17, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

Incidentally, book names are in italics on the wiki, so I have changed the Chestnut-crowned Antpitta article. Snowman (talk) 14:52, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

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• Request ref for this edit please. Snowman (talk) 22:10, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

• The Military Macaw list of references you added had the same reference listed twice. This is not necessary and can be avoided by using "ref name". Using "ref name" is quite easy. Please do not leave a bare html urls in the ref list. Please put the title, the publisher, and so on where relevant. I have reformatted your refs on this page - do you see how neater this is? and the reader has a much better idea of what the webpage is before clicking on it. Snowman (talk) 22:21, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

Re: Hyacinth Macaw

The measurements of the Hyacinth Macaw were adequately referenced with one of Forshaw's books. Forshaw is one of the world's experts on parrots, so there was no need to change the weight range of this sourced from Forshaw's book. I have undone your edit, because information from www.birdieboutique.com does not override Forshow's data. When changing information please consider the reliability of the information already provided in the article. Snowman (talk) 11:19, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

September 2011

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I agree that it would be helpful if you made edit summaries. Snowman (talk) 16:47, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

Year of book

Thank you for using in-line references. I was interesting in the book on bird masses, so I did a search for it on the internet. Looking at the first few pages on-line by following the links on this page suggests that the book is dated 1993. I would be grateful if you would double check the date, which you give as 1992 on the Brown Skua article. Snowman (talk) 16:51, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

Bird dimensions and reflists...

Hi, I just noticed that you've added additional referenced data to some of the bird articles that happen to be on my watchlist - but without adding the corresponding {{Reflist}} tag that allows the inline references to appear correctly formatted at the bottom of the article (e.g. on Parasitic Jaeger and Pomarine Skua). Just a heads-up... If the tag's not already there in the references section and you don't add it, it throws up an ugly red warning at the bottom of the page... --Kurt Shaped Box (talk) 19:36, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up!

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Thank you, it's an honor.

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Coyotes

Why did you write "Although not distantly related" in the article on coyotes ([1])? Did you mean "Although not closely related"? Eric Kvaalen (talk) 16:16, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

Yes, I did. It was a typo. Thanks

Grévy's zebra

Hi. Could you provide a page number and publisher for the citation to Burnie & Wilson that you just added to Grévy's zebra, please? Rgds, --Stfg (talk) 15:44, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

Will have to post it some time later. Not in front of this book now.

I've created the citation in the format used in this article. It now only needs you to fill in the page number, please. --Stfg (talk) 18:59, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

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Wildcat

   I guess it was spotting "preanal", as an unfamiliar word in the 1st line of a 'graph of Wildcat#Build, that led me to work so extensively without reading the other sections, and a lot of it overlapped with your recent edit to the article (the most recent interesting one), which affected that section. My comments in talk:Wildcat#Pre-anal vs. preanal, talk:Wildcat#Body length, and talk:Wildcat#The cool norths all relate to that section, and if you don't know how to get an automated Diffs listing of what i changed from and to in the article, respond to this note, just below it. (I'll watch yr talk page for a while.) I hope at the least that you'll react if i misconstrued your wording in the analysis i applied in the last of those 3 talk sections: i am claiming no subject knowledge, and just trying to infer, or guess, what was intended by wordings that were ambiguous or at least syntactically awkward. Undoubtedly i said mostly too much in my talk contribs and the "Reason" fields of my tags in the article; don't worry about embarrassing me with very specific requests like "Did you mean that..." or "What in the world did you mean by..." questions. Thanks for the new content!
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Re: Andean condors

You added this: </ref> Andean condors have been observed to do some hunting of small, live animals, such as [[rodent]]s, [[bird]]s and [[rabbit]]s, which (given their lack of powerful, grasping feet or developed hunting technique) they usually kill by jab repeatedly with their bill.<ref name= ADW/>. There is no ref named "ADW", so this gives a big red mistake notice in the reflist section. Perhaps, you can put it right. Snowman (talk) 14:54, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

Trumpeter Swan and "Wedge"

Trumpeter Swan: starting in the first sentence of the "Description" section, you added <ref name= Wedge/> several times to the article. Wedge is undefined, however, and causing a citation error in the References section. Could you go back to the article and fill in the reference, please? 71.234.215.133 (talk) 02:49, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

I saw that you deleted the first inclusion of Wedge so I deleted the other five. Perhaps you can add the proper reference someday. 71.234.215.133 (talk) 21:25, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

I have no recollection of adding the "Wedge" reference, will have to double check where I got that.

You added the Wedge non-ref six times in this edit, at the same time you added a full ref for Steve Madge <ref name= Madge>Madge, Steve, ''Waterfowl: An Identification Guide to the Ducks, Geese, and Swans of the World''. Houghton Mifflin Harcourt (1992), ISBN 978-0-395-46726-8</ref>. Is it possible there was no Wedge to ref, that you misspelled Madge multiple times? Just trying to help, as whatever Wedge respresents looks like a wonderful reference. 71.234.215.133 (talk) 14:16, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

You know what, I think that Wedge was a typo that I copy and pasted instead of "Madge". Thanks for bringing it to my attention.

Non-citation

I noticed several inappropriate changes in measurements of birds with the citation given as "The Book of Indian Birds" by Salim Ali. I have the book, and checking it shows that the cited reference says nothing about the weights or measurements that you mention. I think this is a serious matter that needs to be avoided particularly in well-referenced articles. The statement that the Sand Lark was the smallest of larks - was what is called WP:OR by synthesis - saying so by your own judgement of measurements from multiple sources, which is strictly against Wikipedia policy. Shyamal

Did not state Sand Lark was the smallest of all sand-larks, I believe I stated it was one of the smallest species and only that it is near the smallest range of sizes (12-13 cm) of the larks. See also, http://books.google.com/books?id=8ndIAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA428&lpg=PA428&dq=sand+lark+smallest&source=bl&ots=_yM_tiTqEj&sig=nea2r-xZJ8Gox1MZObYio_8eKS0&hl=en#v=onepage&q=lark%20smallest&f=false. (talk) 02:58, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

I wanted to add that the measurements listed are included in Ali's book (for example cm for Malabar Pied Hornbill ‎and Indian Grey Hornbill) on the color plates. Does you copy contain these?

Have added a list of editions on Book of Indian Birds - cannot find any reprint/edition of the year 1993. Shyamal (talk) 15:31, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Here is the edition I own: http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/BookDetailsPL?bi=7611003304&searchurl=an%3Dali%26n%3D100121503%26tn%3Dbook%2Bof%2Bindian%2Bbirds

That is a twelfth edition - could not have been printed in 1993 - does not have weights and measurements on the plates- and it would seem like the only ones claiming this peculiar citation on the Internet are on Wikipedia - presumably all being your edits. Shyamal (talk) 07:20, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

Look, this is the edition of Ali's book that I have and you are the only one I am aware of who feels these particular citations are peculiar. The cover art is exactly the same and the online book seller even describes it as the 1993 edition. On the flap with the publisher information, it is described as copyrighted in the year 1993. I'm afraid you are simply incorrect regarding the length measurements in cm and, in some cases, the standing measurements in cm of the birds on the color plates. If you want to view these, I recommend buying this book then, even if you already have another edition.

I too have questions about the citations you've been adding to this book. First, you've been using the ISBN "0-149-563731-3" which fails the parity check. I think the actual ISBN is "0-19-563731-3" (without a "4"). In my search to fix this issue, I also had trouble finding the exact book you meant to reference because of the 1993 issue. Eventually I determined that you most likely meant the twelfth edition which was published in 1996, not 1993. The previous eleventh edition was first published way back in 1979, with reprints in 1984, 1986, 1988, 1990, and 1992. The link above you provided doesn't seem to be totally working the way it once did but a link to the cover suggests you do have the twelfth edition. It is possible is that you have obtained a pre-publication version of the twelfth edition from 1993 that was not ready to be published and was using an invalid ISBN on purpose. If you could provide another link to a cover that matches your edition, we can solve this. Second, I too am having trouble verifying that this book actually confirms the information being cited. The help for {{cite book}} describes how to use parameters like "page" and "pages" and "quote" that can be used to point to the exact material that supports the article text. Please consider using these in the future. Jason Quinn (talk) 15:51, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

Capitalization

Per MOS (MOS:LIFE, MOS:CAPS, etc.) we avoid capitalization of most words and section titles in the body text (not in references though), say "Commericial hunting and traditional medicine" instead of "Commericial Hunting and Traditional Medicine" in section title, "The tiger" instead of "The Tiger", etc. Cheers. Materialscientist (talk) 00:32, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

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Sorry, I had to rejig your addition. The source does not mention the starling or wren so cannot be used there. It is also better to put a comment like that in the body of the text first rather than the lead. And formatting the reference would be helpful too. cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:11, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

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This edit [2] took me a long time to track down, just to tell you that aborigines, are not only from Australia, and the aborigines that you mention are native New Zealanders, not Australians. They're different countries.

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Hi Sandhillcrane. Could you check this edit, please, and see what you meant by adults generally consuming more than juveniles and thus improving energy deficent during winter, as it's currently not quite making any sense. I don't want to change it, since i don't have access to the reference you used, and i don't know what you actually intended to convey. Thanks, Cheers, Lindsay^Hello 08:28, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

Hi Lindsay, That indicated per that study that the survival rates would be greater for adults than juveniles because the adults were able to attain more food. Perhaps the word should be "deficencies".

Thanks. Bizarrely, your talkpage fell off my watchlist, so i didn't notice your reply till just now. Perhaps you could take a look and be sure i haven't misrepresented the source? Cheers, Lindsay^Hello 05:55, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

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Hi, I've reverted your GF edits to this article. I'm shortly going to submit it to FAC, so it's important that the referencing is spot on. It's not clear to me that the Wildlife Garden Project is an RS source, let alone that it is a more dependable reference that either Clements Thrushes or HBW. With regard to the weight, HBW is an impeccable source, but you didn't give a page number. I've since reinstated the weight, but referenced it to the on-line text of HBW for consistency (I've used this version elsewhere in the article) and because it's more accessible. I hope this is OK. Cheers, Jimfbleak - talk to me? 05:48, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

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No, I can't recall from memory the source of that ISBN, I probably copied it from a reference in another source. I see there's been a more recent edition of this book published in 2013.

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The question I ask myself is "Has Sandhillcrane made such copyright infringements in other articles?" What about the recent massive expansion of Great horned owl, is it a work of scholarship or one of plagiarism? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 15:53, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

I might have not known at that the time at about copyright infringement, at any rate, I don't recall copying and pasting into the Eagle-Owl for a copyrighted source, if so thank you for catching my error. No, it is one of scholarship...One might use similar language from one's resources, but I invite you to review my recent edits of the GHO article and their sources to determine if this falls under you definition of "plargiarism", which I am not sure is correct if you are sourcing your references.

I did look at a few of the GHO sources and compared them with what you had written and saw nothing amiss. I imagine you are now familiar with the Wikipedia copyright policy and I don't intend to take any further action on this matter. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 18:27, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

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Yeah, I will do some research, when I have time. I also have access to BNA Online, it is a great resource.

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Hi, I noticed you have massively expanded many articles about birds of prey. I wonder if you have thought of nominating any of them for WP:good article or WP:featured article? FunkMonk (talk) 02:36, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

Yes, I would consider that. Perhaps White-tailed Eagle?

Yes, did you ever nominate before? If you have any questions, I'd be happy to assist. It seems you have a nice backlog of ready articles that could be nominated. FunkMonk (talk) 15:05, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

Yes, I'm unfamiliar with the process. Could you give me any pointers on how to propose it on there?

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Hi Sandhillcrane! I've been working my way through the WP:BIRD cleanup listing, and recently looked at dwarf bittern, which you substantially improved back in 2014. However, it contains many footnotes (a la "Tarboton 1980") with no corresponding entry in the reference list. Can you please supply those? Otherwise, the article is effectively unreferenced. And, while you're at it, can you please further explain a "forward display"? Someone asked for clarification on what that meant way back in 2014! Thanks. MeegsC (talk) 19:55, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

Actually, I now see that it was lifted almost verbatim from the HeronConservation website. This is a huge no-no, which I'm sure you know! I'm afraid most of the article may have to be reverted. MeegsC (talk) 20:18, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

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On how to nominate article to GA

hi Sandhillcrane, if you feel the article does look good already, you can nomimate it as GA on the article's talkpage like this edit [3],

just copy-paste it and you'll just replace the date and time to current time and the name into your name you've placed/edited it on talkpage. After nominating, you need to wait for reviewer to review your article, if the reviewer reviews the article, they will notify you on your talkpage. The review is like this [4] on other article. You need to address each reviewer request , mostly every article needs to be copyedited/written properly so it will have a higher chance to be GA. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 126.47.237.232 (talk)

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Steppe eagle edit

hi Sandhillcrane – this edit you made to the Steppe eagle article is the single biggest edit I can recall seeing on Wikipedia! Out of curiosity: where did you draft the contents of this edit? Did you use one of Wikipedia's editors (see: mw:Editors)? A third-party editor like Google Docs or Microsoft Word? I ask these questions out of curiosity and amazement ^ _ ^ By the way, I'm Peter and I work on the Wikimedia Foundation's Editing Team. PPelberg (WMF) (talk) 18:46, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

I use Excel to sort out references as I research and then wrote the actual Wikipedia article on Microsoft Word. Before I submit a page but after I make the edits on Microsoft Word I tend to do "Show Preview" a number of times until I'm satisfied with the way the page looks. Nice to meet you, Peter, I'm Sam.

Excel for gathering references and Microsoft Word for drafting...understood! I appreciate you sharing this process with me, Sam. If anything software-related comes up as you're editing, please let me know. See you around 👋 PPelberg (WMF) (talk) 00:08, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

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Out of curiosity, do you intend to bring Bonelli's eagle or Pallas's fish eagle to FAC? LittleJerry (talk) 21:51, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

I'm aware that Bonelli's eagle was reviewed in GA, what the steps necessary to bring it to FAC?

User:Sandhillcrane as an IP user on wiki, I'm amazed at your work on Bonelli's eagle (probably your first GA I think). just wondering about bringing your other work on Ural owl, Snowy owl, Martial eagle, and Cooper's hawk into a good article. 49.151.163.255 (talk) 01:20, 30 December 2020 (UTC)

Happy new year both of you guys!. 49.151.163.255 (talk) 16:18, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

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