User talk:Sandersam8

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If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me on my talk page. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 13:31, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

Alcohol abuse and exercise moved to draftspace

Hello Sandersam8 and welcome to Wikipedia. The standards Wikipedia has for medical-related content are a bit higher than for other types of content, and I'd recommend reading Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources (medicine). Since emphasizing single studies can easily lead to a misrepresentation of the subject, we try to only summarize what reliable secondary sources (such as medical reviews) have to say. Your article Alcohol abuse and exercise currently emphasizes single studies too much, so I have moved it to drafts. This is a nice topic for an article, but I'd recommend starting from scratch by summarizing what medical reviews have said. You can then submit your article for review by clicking the "Submit your draft for review!" at the top of the page. If you ever have any questions feel free to write on my talk page or ask at the Teahouse. Regards, – Thjarkur (talk) 18:26, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

Notes

I saw the above note and your additions to the alcohol abuse article. The content still has issues with you using studies as sources. As stated above, single studies are problematic because they can misrepresent the topic. There are also some additional issues with using studies:

Studies are generally avoided on Wikipedia unless they're accompanied with a secondary source that reviews the study or comments upon the specific claim that is being stated. The reason for this is that studies are primary sources for any of the claims and research conducted by their authors. The publishers don't provide any commentary or in-depth verification, as they only check to ensure that the study doesn't have any glaring errors that would invalidate it immediately. Study findings also tend to be only true for the specific people or subjects that were studied. For example, a person in one area may respond differently than one in an area located on the other side of the country. Socioeconomic factors (be they for the person or a family member) also play a large role, among other things that can impact a response. As such, it's definitely important to find a secondary source, as they can provide this context, verification, and commentary. Aside from that, there's also the issue of why a specific study should be highlighted over another. For example, someone could ask why one study was chosen as opposed to something that studied a similar topic or had different results.

So for example, the findings from this study could differ if the scientists had surveyed different women from other areas or from other countries. It's also from 1999, so the findings could be different if the study was done in 2019. It also shouldn't be assumed that the findings from a single study are applicable on a broad scale, even if it looks extremely likely that they would be. The reason for this is that while publishers do look for errors, faulty work does still slip through the cracks and get published. Secondary and tertiary sources are the strongest and best sources for medical topics. This training module covers the type of sources you need and the why - although it would be good to also review the page covering the guidelines on sourcing medical articles.

Something else that I noted was that the content contained wording like "we" and "us", as opposed to writing in the third person format that Wikipedia uses. Using other points of view suggests that the content was written by a single or specific person, which in turn implies that the content is the viewpoint of that person and original research. What also gives off the impression of original research are things like "To add further support to this,...", as this is drawing ties between research that aren't there. We can't create our own ties or conclusions based on the research - we can only summarize content, claims, and ties that were already made by authorities on the topic.

You also want to avoid wording like "it is important", as this is an opinion statement. Subjective statements can be true for one person, whereas a second person may disagree entirely.

As such, I've removed the content and placed it in your sandbox. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 16:09, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

Draft:Alcohol abuse and exercise concern

Hi there, I'm HasteurBot. I just wanted to let you know that Draft:Alcohol abuse and exercise, a page you created, has not been edited in 5 months. The Articles for Creation space is not an indefinite storage location for content that is not appropriate for articlespace.

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Thank you for your attention. HasteurBot (talk) 01:27, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Alcohol abuse and exercise

Hello, Sandersam8. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Alcohol abuse and exercise".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. If you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion by following the instructions at this link. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 19:14, 9 March 2020 (UTC)