User talk:Samwalton9/Archive 22
February 2017 & March 2017
Administrators' newsletter - February 2017
[edit]News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2017). This first issue is being sent out to all administrators, if you wish to keep receiving it please subscribe. Your feedback is welcomed.
- NinjaRobotPirate • Schwede66 • K6ka • Ealdgyth • Ferret • Cyberpower678 • Mz7 • Primefac • Dodger67
- Briangotts • JeremyA • BU Rob13
- A discussion to workshop proposals to amend the administrator inactivity policy at Wikipedia talk:Administrators has been in process since late December 2016.
- Wikipedia:Pending changes/Request for Comment 2016 closed with no consensus for implementing Pending changes level 2 with new criteria for use.
- Following an RfC, an activity requirement is now in place for bots and bot operators.
- When performing some administrative actions the reason field briefly gave suggestions as text was typed. This change has since been reverted so that issues with the implementation can be addressed. (T34950)
- Following the latest RfC concluding that Pending Changes 2 should not be used on the English Wikipedia, an RfC closed with consensus to remove the options for using it from the page protection interface, a change which has now been made. (T156448)
- The Foundation has announced a new community health initiative to combat harassment. This should bring numerous improvements to tools for admins and CheckUsers in 2017.
- The Arbitration Committee released a response to the Wikimedia Foundation's statement on paid editing and outing.
- JohnCD (John Cameron Deas) passed away on 30 December 2016. John began editing Wikipedia seriously during 2007 and became an administrator in November 2009.
13:36, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
TWL issue
[edit]Hey Sam! I ran into an issue while trying to email users tonight to send out the google doc to get them new accounts. Apparently there is a rate limit for the email this user function. I've been told the only war around the throttle is to be an Administrator or to have the ACC flag. Any ideas for a possible work around for the future? Perhaps a user right like the education program but for TWL? Just my thoughts, I'll try to catch you on IRC --Cameron11598 (Talk) 08:03, 4 February 2017 (UTC)
I've relisted an RfC that was run at WT:Admin in Sept. 2015. It is at Wikipedia talk:Conflict of interest#Concrete proposal 3 as there are a number of similar proposals going on at the same place. Better to keep them together. Smallbones(smalltalk) 04:18, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
The Signpost: 6 February 2017
[edit]- Arbitration report: WMF Legal and ArbCom weigh in on tension between disclosure requirements and user privacy
- WikiProject report: For the birds!
- Technology report: Better PDFs, backup plans, and birthday wishes
- Traffic report: Cool It Now
- Featured content: Three weeks dominated by articles
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Problems
- The block log sometimes showed blocks as being much longer than they were. This has now been fixed. [1]
Changes this week
- Wikimedia pages will now be better at showing pictures when you share them on social media. The descriptions will be different too. You can see an example of before and after. [2]
- There are some changes to the OOjs UI. Some old functions will not work anymore or not work as they used to. This could be a breaking change. [3]
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 7 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 8 February. It will be on all wikis from 9 February (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 7 February at 20:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- Tidy will be replaced later this year. Instead, the HTML 5 parsing algorithm will be used to clean up bad HTML in wikitext. This will cause problems on a number of wikis. They need to be fixed first. You can see if your wiki still has something to fix here for one of the HTML problems. This list does not cover all problems. You can read about more problems. [4][5]
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19:46, 6 February 2017 (UTC)
Deletion review for Daniel A. Norman
[edit]An editor has asked for a deletion review of Daniel A. Norman. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review.
Thanks for the invite
[edit]Hi, thanks for the invite..really happy to be part of this team.. Anyway, I will like you to please check my first article I create cece maintain and see how it's like. You can please help make corrections with any will be needed.Eddypep (talk) 16:34, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
Can I ask you...
[edit]Why one wikipedia bot delete upload files by ME? I shot the pics! 3 Tarja Turunen files/ 1 Myrath (band) file / 1 Sully Erna file and 1 Therion file!! THEY ARE NOT COPY! — Preceding unsigned comment added by KrisBlack123 (talk • contribs) 14:53, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
- @KrisBlack123: Hi. Those images were deleted from Wikimedia Commons, not Wikipedia, so I can't help you as I don't know what the images were of. You should leave a message at the talk page of one of the users who flagged those images for deletion, such as Denniss. Sam Walton (talk) 14:57, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
Nikkimaria
[edit]Hi Samwalton, I got a message that an edit thanking Nikkimaria for answering a question regarding WP:NARA was reverted. Why would that be? scope_creep (talk) 12:21, 13 February 2017 (UTC)
- @Scope creep: Sorry, I hit the rollback button accidentally while scrolling down my watchlist on my phone. I immediately reverted my revert :) Sam Walton (talk) 12:22, 13 February 2017 (UTC)
Addition of un-redirected pages to Special:NewPages and Special:NewPagesFeed
[edit]I'm contacting you because you participated in this proposal discussion. While the proposal was approved, it has not received developer action. The request is now under consideration as part of the 2017 Developer Wishlist, with voting open through the end of day on Tuesday (23:59 UTC). The latter link describes the voting process, if you are interested. —swpbT 18:02, 13 February 2017 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- EventStreams is a new way to show activity on Wikimedia wikis. For now it works with the recent changes feed. It will do more things later. It will replace RCStream. Tools that use RCStream should move to EventStreams before 7 July. [6]
Problems
- The Firefox add-on Firefogg can cause problems with the Upload Wizard. This will not be fixed, because Firefox will not support Firefogg in the future. The Upload Wizard will no longer work with Firefogg. [7]
- Tool Labs and Wikimedia Labs databases will be under maintenance on 15 February. This will start at 17:00 (UTC) and last for about six hours. Some tools could have problems during or after this. [8]
Changes this week
- The TwoColConflict extension is a new way to solve edit conflicts. It makes it easier to copy and paste the relevant text to the text field. It will come to Meta and German Wikipedia this week. It is already available on MediaWiki.org. It will come to more wikis later. [9]
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 14 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 15 February. It will be on all wikis from 16 February (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 14 February at 20:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- Page Previews will be turned on for logged-out users on the Catalan, Greek, Russian, and Italian Wikipedias in the middle of February. Page Previews shows readers a short part of a linked article when they rest their mouse pointer on the link. This is to help them understand what it is about without leaving the article they are reading. Page Previews used to be called Hovercards. It will come to more wikis later this spring. [10]
- The Developer Wishlist is a list where developers prioritize tools they need. The voting closes at 14 February 23:59 (UTC). This process is only for developers.
Review
- You can read the 2016 product summary from the Wikimedia Foundation Product group to see what they did with things they said they would work on in the annual plan.
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18:06, 13 February 2017 (UTC)
Speedy deletion criteria - Article deleted
[edit]Hi, my article Fluendo S.A. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluendo_S.A. has been categorized as speedy deletion, mainly because " it does not credibly indicate how or why the subject is important or significant". I believe the wiki entry is relevant because it is explaining what the company does: it is a provider of legal multimedia solutions based on GStreamer, an open and cross-platform framework. As such the company actively contributes to the GStreamer community growth. GStreamer is a development framework that enables the creation of applications like media players, video editors, streaming media broadcasters, etc. as well as other software components like codecs, filters, muxers or demuxers. Using this framework, Fluendo provides a complete set of codecs for audio and video and delivered to the client with its corresponding patent licenses for distribution. There are multiple companies and end users who use these solutions.
I would like to know if there is any way I can solve this problem and keep the article. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Diagonal579 (talk • contribs) 17:22, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
- @Diagonal579: On Wikipedia articles can only be written about subjects which are notable. In short, notability means that the subject has been covered to a significant level in reliable sources of information. We also have a set of speedy deletion criteria, and your article has been tagged with one of these, namely A7. A7 states that if an article doesn't even make a believable claim that the subject is notable, it can be deleted immediately. To solve this issue you would need to show that the company is important in some way, and add independent reliable source coverage in the form of citations to sources like news articles (not press releases) or books. Let me know if you have any more questions. Sam Walton (talk) 17:49, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
Adminship nomination
[edit]Hello, I nominated myself to become an administrator one this page. I was wondering if something went wrong since it didn't show up on the requests page. Do users have to vote first? This is in no way an attempt to canvass either, I haven't interacted with you before.--ZiaLater (talk) 21:06, 16 February 2017 (UTC)
- @ZiaLater: Per the nomination guidance page, which you should have been following, you are also required to take the final step of transcluding your RfA to the main requests for adminship page. Since you didn't do that, no one has noticed your request page. Given this initial stumbling block, I don't think it would be a good idea for you to transclude now - voters are likely to see this as an inability to fully read instructions and thus oppose your request. More generally, I would note that your rate of editing is less than is typical for good administrator candidates (who generally have 10,000+ edits), and while your article contributions are great, you don't have much experience in administrative areas such as deletion discussions, anti-vandalism, or page patrol. RfA voters tend to look for experience in those areas to judge your behaviour when deciding whether you would make a good administrator. Thank you for your interest in being an administrator, but I think this RfA would fail if transcluded, and I don't suggest that you attempt to run again until you have more experience here. If you would like that request to be deleted you can do so by tagging it with {{db-g7}}. Sam Walton (talk) 21:53, 16 February 2017 (UTC)
- Ok, thank you and I agree with putting this move on hold, for now. I was looking forward to bringing more to Wikipedia and that is why I nominated myself. As for the directions, I read them and thought that I had placed the nomination on the page. Thanks for your help and I will start participating in administrative areas. Hopefully this will fulfill my urge to do more for Wikipedia until then.--ZiaLater (talk) 01:01, 17 February 2017 (UTC)
A beer for you!
[edit]For your support (and bravery) on the nomination front! Amortias (T)(C) 23:17, 19 February 2017 (UTC) |
- @Amortias: I didn't have a good internet connection when your RfA was closed so apologies for the delay. Congratulations! I hope you're putting the tools to good use already. Check out the new admin guide if you haven't already, and let me know if you have any questions :) Sam Walton (talk) 13:18, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- The edit summary box is now a little bit bigger. This is to make it follow the Wikimedia design guide. [11]
Changes this week
- Page Previews will be updated on 23 February. This fixes many bugs. Page Previews can be turned on as the Beta Feature called Hovercards. [12]
- There has been a problem where the CSS of gadgets has been loading twice. The Gadgets extension has two new options:
type
andpeers
. Thetype
option solves this problem. You can usepeers
to create gadgets with more than one style module. Read more about type and peers. [13] - OAuth will handle blocked users in a more consistent way. [14]
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 21 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 22 February. It will be on all wikis from 23 February (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 21 February at 20:00 (UTC). See how to join.
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19:25, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
Page review request
[edit]Hi, I created a page called Joel Orleans Amponsah and a tag was place on it to add more links which i have done. i will like you to please review it for me and notify me if error....thanksEddypep (talk) 09:47, 21 February 2017 (UTC)
A cupcake for you!
[edit]sweetie_olsen LouieMiuMui (talk) 23:33, 21 February 2017 (UTC) |
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Problems
- On 22 February the wikipedia.org portal did not work for an hour. This was because of a problem with a JavaScript file. [15]
Changes this week
- You will be able to use
<chem>
to write chemical formulas in the visual editor. Previously this only worked in the wikitext editor. [16] - The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 28 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 1 March. It will be on all wikis from 2 March (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 28 February at 20:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- You can soon upload 3D files to Commons. The file formats are AMF and STL. The plan is for this to work later this week but it could be later. [17]
- The name "Wikipedia" will be more obvious at the top of the page when you read Wikipedia in the mobile view. This is because many readers don't realize they are on Wikipedia. [18][19]
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19:56, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
The Signpost: 27 February 2017
[edit]- From the editors: Results from our poll on subscription and delivery, and a new RSS feed
- Recent research: Special issue: Wikipedia in education
- Technology report: Responsive content on desktop; Offline content in Android app
- In the media: The Daily Mail does not run Wikipedia
- Gallery: A Met montage
- Special report: Peer review – a history and call for reviewers
- Op-ed: Wikipedia has cancer
- Featured content: The dominance of articles continues
- Traffic report: Love, football, and politics
Administrators' newsletter – March 2017
[edit]News and updates for administrators from the past month (February 2017).
- Amortias • Deckiller • BU Rob13
- Ronnotel • Islander • Chamal N • Isomorphic • Keeper76 • Lord Voldemort • Shereth • Bdesham • Pjacobi
- A recent RfC has redefined how articles on schools are evaluated at AfD. Specifically, secondary schools are not presumed to be notable simply because they exist.
- AfDs that receive little participation should now be closed like an expired proposed deletion, following a deletion process RfC.
- Defender, HakanIST, Matiia and Sjoerddebruin are our newest stewards, following the 2017 steward elections.
- The 2017 appointees for the Ombudsman commission are Góngora, Krd, Lankiveil, Richwales and Vogone. They will serve for approximately 1 year.
- A recent query shows that only 16% of administrators on the English Wikipedia have enabled two-factor authentication. If you haven't already enabled it please consider doing so.
- Cookie blocks should be deployed to the English Wikipedia soon. This will extend the current autoblock system by setting a cookie for each block, which will then autoblock the user after they switch accounts under a new IP.
- A bot will now automatically place a protection template on protected pages when admins forget to do so.
Hi Sam,
I hadn't seen the previous discussion on the "bytes" versus "characters" matter so I had no idea this had been mentioned before. Still, isn't the criteria somewhat odd in its current wording? If we take the policy literally and use the mentioned em dash (—) as an example we would consider a password build out of three em-dashes a 9 byte password thus passing the criteria. Yet a 3 character password can hardly be considered secure and could be brute forced in seconds if one would just bombard the login form with progressive random attempts. Beyond that calculating a password length in bytes while accounting for various types of encoding just feel so... vague and needlessly complex to me (I doubt all of our editors even know what a byte is, let along understand that different encoding can require different amounts of storage).
Honestly I don't mind either variant of the line too much but I do admit that the wording piqued my interest. Excirial (Contact me,Contribs) 00:32, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
- @Excirial: I don't understand the topic in all its complexity, but my understanding is that 'characters' doesn't have a comparable meaning for many alphabets, with some 'characters' made up of many components, and so to write a policy with all the Wikipedia-demanded preciseness requires us to write bytes rather than characters. I agree though that the three dashes example is a little silly. Sam Walton (talk) 21:25, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
Help me with my user page please.
[edit]So I recently registered an account to wikipedia and I created a user page without knowing the restrictions to it. The page got deleted and now I don't know what to do. Could you please help me with building my user page? That would be much appreciated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Theoriental (talk • contribs) 17:56, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
- @Theoriental: Hi :) Your user page is intended to be an overview of your interests and activity on Wikipedia. While some personal information may be relevant, the focus should be on content that helps other users understand and appreciate your contributions here, rather than lengthy information about your personal life. You can read more at WP:UP. Sam Walton (talk) 18:10, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Theoriental (talk • contribs) 19:53, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- You can now search on English, French, Hebrew and Greek wikis and find words even if you forget the diacritics. It also works if you use diacritics in your search but the wiki doesn't. [20]
- When you use the mobile view and click on a link to an article in another language you will see that article in the mobile view. Previously it changed to the desktop view. [21]
Problems
- Some watchlist gadgets didn't work for a period of time last week. This has now been fixed. [22]
- Admins who click on "mass delete" on a user's Special:Contributions will be taken directly to a list pages created by that user. It has worked like this before, but not lately. [23]
Changes this week
- The way you switch between wikitext and the visual editors in the desktop view has changed. It is now a drop-down menu. This is the same as in the mobile view. [24]
- The "flag the edit in the abuse log" checkbox will be removed from the abuse filter interface. This is because the edits are always flagged in the abuse log. [25]
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 7 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 8 March. It will be on all wikis from 9 March (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 7 March at 20:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Clarification
- The 2017/09 issue of Tech News mentioned 3D file formats you can soon upload to Commons. The AMF format will be available later.
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23:23, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
How to Create a Page On Wikipedia
[edit]So how do I create a wikipedia page that everyone can see?
JaneDoe to JaneDoeporn
[edit]Thanks for your valuable input yesterday. I've opened Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Pornactress.
Anna Frodesiak (talk) 23:36, 8 March 2017 (UTC)
Rhea Scott Article Deletion
[edit]Hello. I have an update to an article that was recently deleted. I have cited many sources and feel the information is a valuable research resource. What is the best way to provide this information so that I may get the article updated and undeleted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rpsavory (talk • contribs) 22:22, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
- @Rpsavory: The article was only a copy of the - copyrighted - IMDB profile. You can just start again at Rhea Scott. Sam Walton (talk) 22:28, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for inviting me and I'd like to ask for help to edit a semi-protect page
[edit]Hello, I totally embrace the 5 pillars of wikipedia and reading the page of the actor Johnny Depp I checked that some excerpts that cite legal disputes should be structured in a more neutral way to be fair with all the parties involved.
I'll paste these 4 (four) excerpts and at the same time present my motion for editing them
Personal life
Family, relationships and domestic violence allegations
1) "She stated that the latest incident of violence had taken place on May 21, and provided statements by two witnesses—her and Depp's mutual friend iO Tillett Wright and neighbor Raquel Pennington—and photographs of her battered face as evidence"
The motive: Raquel Pennington and iO Tillet are only Heard's friends, if a reader doesn't know it, he/she can deduce that they're neutral witnesses, then I present this motion;
"She stated that the latest incident of violence had taken place on May 21, and provided statements by two witnesses, her friends iO Tillett Wright and Raquel Pennington, who was Depp and Heard's neighbor—and photographs of her battered face as evidence"
2) "Wright had called the LAPD during the incident,[96] but Heard, wishing to protect Depp, stated to them that it was a "verbal dispute only", and the officers saw "no evidence of a crime at that time".[93][96][97]
In response, Depp's lawyers said that Heard was "attempting to secure a premature financial resolution by alleging abuse".[93][98] On May 31, Heard gave a statement to the LAPD on the incident on May 21; her lawyers stated that she had initially been reluctant to involve law enforcement in the case in order to "protect her privacy and Johnny's career","
The motive: From the sources presented I have seen that the same argument is presented twice and that one of the times is arranged in a way that may suggest a wrong interpretation, then my motion is;
"Wright had called the LAPD during the incident,[96]but Heard stated to them that it was a "verbal dispute only", and the Capt. Don Graham, who oversees the LAPD’s Central Division told that the officers saw "no evidence of a crime at that time" [93][96][97]
In response, Depp's lawyers said that Heard was "attempting to secure a premature financial resolution by alleging abuse".[93][98] On May 31, Heard gave a statement to the LAPD on the incident on May 21; her lawyers stated that she had initially been reluctant to involve law enforcement in the case "stemmed from a wish to protect her own privacy and Depp’s career","
3) "but was forced to do so "to set the record straight as to the true facts, as she cannot continue to leave herself open to the vicious false and malicious allegations [by Depp's team] that have infected the media".[99] The following day, People published images of Heard's injuries from an alleged earlier incident of domestic violence,[93] and on June 4,"
The motive: Checking the source quoted, I realized that changing the position of the arguments may suggest a new misinterpretation, so my motion is keep the quote exactly as it is in the source;
“Johnny’s team has forced Amber to give a statement to the LAPD to set the record straight as to the true facts, as she cannot continue to leave herself open to the vicious false and malicious allegations that have infected the media.”
Legal problems
4) "In March 2016, Depp cut ties with his management company The Management Group and accused them of improperly managing his money. The Management Group later sued Depp for unpaid fees and countersued him for damages.[119] The lawsuit revealed that Depp was responsible for his own fiscal mismanagement, in opposition to his claim"
The motive: The lawsuit has not revealed anything yet, since it is still in transit. I'd like to add two new sources and add new information;
"In March 2016, Depp cut ties with his management company The Management Group and accused them of improperly managing his money. The Management Group later sued Depp for unpaid fees and countersued him for damages alleging that Depp was responsible for his own fiscal mismanagement.[119] Depp's lawyer has now filed new papers in the dispute in a bid to have the countersuit dismissed. In the documents, the actor provides a string of receipts from America's Internal Revenue Service (IRS) detailing the tax troubles he found himself in from 2000 to 2015 as a result of TMG's alleged "negligence and misconduct". Johnny Depp has accused his former managers of costing him more than $6 million in tax penalties and fines for failing to file his taxes in a timely manner. His lawyer stated "Mr. Depp did not sue his former business managers for his own personal investment decisions or the 'financial distress' they wildly allege - Mr. Depp sued them for fraud and multiple breaches of their fiduciary duty, among other claims. Gaslighting the public with global press releases will not save the defendants in court from their gross misconduct set forth in the complaint.""
And the new sources are:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/johnny-depp-sues-business-managers-accuses-them-of-fraud-1484354022
http://www.film-news.co.uk/news/UK/44595/Johnny-Depp-blames-years-of-tax-problems-on-ex-managers
I would also suggest to change the subtitle Legal Problems to a new one that is less cumbersome
Thank you
Babyallis (talk) 00:40, 10 March 2017 (UTC)Babyallis
Nuances
[edit]Your tact and depth of intelligence revealed on the discussion WP:1 Rule is admirable and well received. You seemed to truly understand the premise of the Rule. I thank you for your contributions there as they have enlightened me onto certain things, my depth of appreciation can not be understated. I conclude my fair wishes with a departing saying: "The voice of the intelligence is drowned out by the roar of fear. It is ignored by the voice of desire. It is contradicted by the voice of shame. It is biased by hate and extinguished by anger. Most of all it is silenced by ignorance." You are further from ignorance than I have been by making that policy request, I am humbled by your honest insight. Thank you. →ὦiki-Coffee
(talk to me!) (contributions) 01:32, 11 March 2017 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Changes this week
- You will be able to show references from
<references />
tags in more than one column on your wiki. This is the list of footnotes for the sources in the article. How many columns you see will depend on how big your screen is. On some wikis, some templates already do this. Templates that use<references />
tags will need to be updated, and then later the change can happen for all reference lists. [26][27] - The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 14 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 15 March. It will be on all wikis from 16 March (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 14 March at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- Some old web browsers will not be able to use JavaScript on Wikimedia wikis in the future. If you have an old web browser on your computer you can upgrade to a newer version. [28]
- CSS in templates will be stored in a separate page in the future. [29][30]
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15:26, 13 March 2017 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- The
Save page
button now saysPublish page
orPublish changes
on the Wikimedia wikis except for Wikipedias and Wikinewses. This change will come to Wikipedias later. The point is to make it more clear that the edit will change the page immediately.Publish page
is when you save a new page andPublish changes
when you edit an existing page. [31] - DMOZ no longer works. Templates that use DMOZ can be redirected to archive.org or another mirror. DMOZ has been removed from the RelatedSites extension on Wikivoyage. [32]
- You can see monthly page views when you click on
Page information
in the sidebar. Developers can also get monthly page views through the API. [33] - The Linter extension is now on smaller Wikimedia wikis. It helps editors find some wikitext errors so they can be fixed. It will come to other Wikimedia wikis later. The extension will be able to find more errors later. [34]
- The MediaWiki-Vagrant portable development environment has been updated to use Debian Jessie. This means local development and testing will be more like on the majority of Wikimedia production servers. [35]
Problems
- On 15 March some interwiki links to other languages were not correctly sorted. This has been fixed. If you still see pages where the interwiki links are not sorted as they should be, they should be fixed automatically with time or you can edit the page and save it without changing anything. If this doesn't work, please report it. [36]
Changes this week
- When you edit with the visual editor, you will be able to switch the direction you write in from right-to-left to left-to-right as you are editing. This is especially important for editors who edit in languages that write from right to left. You can do this with a tool in the editing menu. You can also use the keyboard shortcut
Ctrl
+Shift
+X
on PCs orCmd
+Shift
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on Macs. [37] - The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 21 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 22 March. It will be on all wikis from 23 March (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 21 March at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
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22:03, 20 March 2017 (UTC)
How to sort out page issues: orphan page and advertisement page
[edit]Thanks for inviting me to join the teahouse. I have been updating a page following the guidelines provided on wikipedia in order to create a encyclopedic page but on the page still are displayed issues.
Kind Regards Writer4change (talk) 17:04, 24 March 2017 (UTC)
This is the page: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amaruk_Kayshapanta Writer4change (talk) 17:11, 24 March 2017 (UTC)
- @Writer4change: Hi! Orphan means that no other pages currently contain a link to this page. You can fix that by adding wikilinks from other relevant Wikipedia articles to this one. As for advertising, content on Wikipedia should be written neutrally, without trying to make the subject sound amazing, simply reporting facts. Sam Walton (talk) 15:53, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
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Recent changes
- When you edit with the visual editor, you can see a visual diff as well as a wikitext diff when you review your changes. [38]
Problems
- Special:AllPages was disabled for two days due to some performance issues. It is back, but the filter for redirects is gone as the cause of the performance problem. It still needs to be fixed. [39][40]
Changes this week
- New filters for Recent changes will be released on Portuguese and Polish Wikipedias and MediaWikiwiki on March 28. Other wikis will get it progressively. The new filters include filtering, highlighting and, on certain wikis, user intent prediction.
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from March 28. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from March 29. It will be on all wikis from March 30 (calendar).
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14:47, 27 March 2017 (UTC)
Central discussion
[edit]You reverted a discussion topic I posted, and said that ideas don't go on there.
Can you point me to the guideline or policy that states that discussions about ideas cannot be posted on that template?
The idea seems to be mainstream and thought-provoking enough to warrant a central notification. The Transhumanist 20:43, 27 March 2017 (UTC)
- @The Transhumanist: Sure no problem. Wikipedia:Centralized discussion states that Template:CENT is for "matters that have a wide impact and on which a broad consensus is needed", and not for "General ideas or proposals". Practically, it's for getting people to join WP:RfCs with wide impact, not for getting opinions on an idea. Sam Walton (talk) 20:49, 27 March 2017 (UTC)
- I see, later in the process, once a project has actually been started and needs input on direction. Thank you for the clarification. The Transhumanist 21:15, 27 March 2017 (UTC)
Disagreement concerning article about Tom O'Carroll
[edit]I would like to draw your attention to an issue regarding Tom O'Carroll which you recently edited.
On March 18 you deleted a sentence from part of the article about O'Carroll's conviction in 2006 which read 'The cache of images featured children aged 6 and over being raped and tortured', citing the lack of evidence for this in any of the available sources.
The sentence was then restored by Philip Cross very shortly afterwards.
Then on March 22 a user purporting to be Tom O'Carroll himself provided, on the talk page for the article, a detailed rebuttal of the claim in question, describing it as 'seriously defamatory'. A crucial aspect of his case was an extract from the official transcript of the judge's ruling which made it clear (if we accept its genuineness) that the images involved were not of the most serious kind, which would of course directly contradict the contested claim.
Later the same day, NeilN deleted this posting from the user purporting to be Tom O'Carroll, stating that he is 'not allowed to edit here' (though of course this material is still available in the history).
On March 23, the contested sentence was again deleted from the article, this time by me, as I assumed that the information purporting to come from Tom O'Carroll was indeed genuine and I felt that if so, it made a virtually unanswerable case for the falsity of the sentence, in which case Wikipedia would be in danger of committing libel if it retained the sentence.
Very shortly afterwards, Philip Cross restored the sentence saying 'Multiple sources cited, O'Carroll is blocked & these published citations have around (sic) for a decade.'
I notice that you have not further intervened in the matter since your deletion of the sentence on March 18 and I wonder why this is the case. I also wonder why the user claiming to be Tom O'Carroll has been blocked. Has he been unable to convince Wikipedia that he is genuine? Or perhaps, on the contrary, it has been decided that he is genuine and the reason for his being blocked is that it would be a violation of WP: ChildProtect to continue to let him edit on Wikipedia. Or maybe there is some other reason. I suppose you are under no obligation to discuss such things with me, but I am very concerned, since his case did seem to be very well argued and if Wikipedia is going to ignore such evidence in relation to what is potentially such a serious matter, I hope that it has exceptionally good reasons for doing so.
I would ask you as an administrator who has been involved with this article to give me your assurance that the correct decision has been taken in this matter. TruthSerum1 (talk) 09:23, 28 March 2017 (UTC)