User talk:Saashaw

I noticed that you have been changing the designation of American soccer players to "footballers". Please stop. The standard designation is "soccer". Thank you. Mohrflies (talk) 23:50, 5 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I copied the following discussion from the United States men's national soccer team talk page. It might help. Mohrflies (talk) 00:01, 6 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Why is this page called United States men's national soccer team when all the other football associations' first teams are titled as Brazilian national football team for example? Stephen MUFC (talk) 21:35, 26 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, Brazilian national football team is a redirect to the article's correct name, Brazil national football team. But I assume you're asking why this article uses "soccer" in its title rather than "football". The answer is that in Anglophonic North America, association football is known as "soccer", and "football" refers to American football or Canadian football, depending on which of the two countries you're in. Then you've got the fact that the women's national team enjoys an exposure in the United States that is at times (during the Olympics, for instance) greater than that of the men, to the point that ESPN actually uses former members of the women's team as their commentators and analysts for men's football. So it's necessary to specify that this article is about the men's team in its name. Binabik80 (talk) 23:30, 26 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, but there’s no national gridiron side to speak of (I know the U.S. has been represented in various international American football competitions). On top of that, AFAICT, this is the only country that specifies men’s in the name. Great for the U.S. for being so enlightened, but either drop it, or change everyone else’s for consistency. —Wiki Wikardo 06:23, 10 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Growing up I thought only Americans called the sport soccer and the rest of the world called the sport football. I believed this because that was what the press told me. Then I actually began to travel and discovered that a surprising number of people called the sport soccer, including the Welsh, Irish, Canadians, Australians, New Zealanders, South Africans . . . well, just about everyone colonized by the British. Other ethnic and national groups called the sport by local names, the best known are the Italians whose national team is the Nazionale di calcio dell'Italia which loosely translates as National Kicking of Italy. Only in the last ten years have national federations begun to change their names from soccer to football. Although Australia made the change in 2005, the national team remains the Socceroos. New Zealand changed their name in 2007. Despite this, a surprising number of people at the street level continue to ignore the officals and call the sport soccer. This includes South Korea^[1], New Zealand^[2], Ireland^[3], Scotland^[4], England^[5], Wales^[6], France^[7], Japan, Canada, South Africa, Zimbabwe and perhaps even more places than I know. So be careful about being too sarcastic about Americans calling the sport "soccer". That sarcasm makes the whole criticism appear to be less a matter of correct diction and more a judgemental anti-Americanism. Mohrflies (talk) 00:43, 6 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The whole hang-up about "soccer" seems to be a primarily British phenomenon of the last 3 or 4 decades when it became well-known that the term was commonly used in the USA. Unfortunately the myth has grown that the term is an Americanisation whereas it actually dates back to the 19th Century in England & was a common term for football in Britain for most of the 20th Century, but almost seems frowned upon now as a result of the aforementioned misconception. Gwladys24 (talk) 21:40, 18 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Name - Association Football not Soccer

I notice you changed my edits from American “association football” to "soccer." What Wiki policy/protocol stipulates we must confine our diction, to "soccer." This debate will never resolve and will continue. I read your suggestion, although I don't agree. What happen to free speech/expression, or am being “Wikileaks Censored” to confine my thoughts and speech to fit your understanding? Please find room in your mind to like the word, “Association Football.” Please stop changing my edits. Thanks very kindly. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Saashaw (talk • contribs) 17:01, 7 December 2010 (UTC) --Saashaw (talk) 18:27, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Saashaw, I added in your comment to me here. This is my response. It's not a policy/protocol, but more standard use of words. In the United States and Canada, the sport is known as soccer. In Europe, more typically "football" or "association football". So when dealing with U.S. or Canadian teams and players, we usually use the local terms. This isn't a matter of "free speach", nor is it a matter of my understanding, but it is the common use of the language. Finally, if I don't revert your edits, then they will most likely be reverted by any number of other people who have commonly agreed to use the term "soccer" for U.S./Canadian players. Thanks. Mohrflies (talk) 03:00, 8 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Changing "soccer"

You're doing it again. Knock it off, will you? You're already been told why soccer is word we use on US player articles numerous times, as per the paragraphs above. --JonBroxton (talk) 00:25, 10 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

December 2010

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute to Wikipedia, at least one of your recent edits, such as the one you made to Sacha Kljestan, did not appear to be constructive and has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any test edits you would like to make, and read the welcome page to learn more about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. Thank you. Mohrflies (talk) 00:58, 10 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at Brad Friedel. Your edits appear to constitute vandalism and have been reverted or removed. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. Mohrflies (talk) 00:59, 10 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute to Wikipedia, at least one of your recent edits, such as the one you made to Luis Robles, did not appear to be constructive and has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any test edits you would like to make, and read the welcome page to learn more about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. Thank you. Mohrflies (talk) 01:00, 10 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This is your last warning; the next time you vandalize Wikipedia, as you did at Sacha Kljestan, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Mohrflies (talk) 01:00, 10 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This is your last warning; the next time you vandalize Wikipedia, as you did at Landon Donovan, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Mohrflies (talk) 01:01, 10 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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