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March 2015

Thoroughbred breeding theories

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You are right that the article has tone problems, but sit tight and let me take a whack at it first. This is a major deal in the horse racing world, not to be dismissed as mere "fancier" stuff -- millions of dollars are at stake every year because people rely on these things. A major rewrite probably requires more research as well. Montanabw^(talk) 05:22, 1 March 2015 (UTC) Follow up: Restructured, rearranged and toned down the odd phrasings. Probably would be good to review the source material and maybe pull some stuff on this from Blood-Horse, but consulting with WikiProject Horse racing for expert advice might be helpful too, there is one user who does not much else other than add the breeding families to every article on a racehorse that gets a pedigree added. But this is all I'm up for tonight, other fish to fry. I suppose more conversation can occur at that article's talk page, too. Montanabw^(talk) 05:30, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

No worries. I haven't raised any objection to the topic's notability; it's just written in a gee-whiz tone, with a combination of an advocacy/advice voice and a "believe it or not" voice, as if it came from a fancier publication. I don't know enough about horse racing to comment on the topic's real-world importance. In working on the Foundation bloodstock stub, I integrated mention of Thoroughbred breeding theories in the only way it seemed to actually fit that context. Didn't make much sense as a see-also. I'm also not trying to pick on horse articles; I've been working a little on the cat ones (many of which are utter trash), and ended up working on Foundation bloodstock because I needed to link to it from a cat article, and it only addressed horses. That in turn led me to the theories one. I think that may be misnamed, as it does not appear to represent a theory or collection of theories, strictly speaking (more like a mishmash of hypotheses, guesses, superstitions, preferences, business plans, and some degree of experiment-driven work). But if "Thoroughbred breeding theories" is an established term of art there'll be sources to corroborate that as the WP:COMMONNAME. If not, then it should probably just be at Thoroughbred breeding. Either way, there seems to enough material for an article rather than just a section at Thoroughbred.  — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽^ʌⱷ҅_ᴥⱷ^ʌ≼  05:44, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

I agree with you about the "gee whiz" tone, hope it's better. Off to the articles, now. We did spin off that article from Thoroughbred when we took the TB article to FAC; it definitely was a tangential topic. Montanabw^(talk) 08:04, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

Oh and yes, it's technical language, though "Racehorse breeding theories" and "nicking" are pretty common too. Google it. Thoroughbred breeding isn't a good alt title, as the breeding part is so much more than just analyzing pedigree nicks. This "nicking" thing is, IMHO, kind of voodoo with a computer, but it's also why some horses have illogically high stud fees and others are ridiculously low. Tapit is at $300,000 a mare in spite of a crap race record, while Awesome Again, with a far more impressive race record and equally good babies, is at $75,000. Montanabw^(talk) 08:42, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

I'll trust your judgement on this. My only real concern was the writing style.  — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽^ʌⱷ҅_ᴥⱷ^ʌ≼  09:34, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

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Greetings! I would like to ask you for assistance related to WikiProject Amphibians and Reptiles. I have recently expanded the List of amphibians of Bulgaria and the List of reptiles of Bulgaria and I hope you can spare some time for a copyedit. I consider nominating them for Feature lists and suggestions for further improvement would be very welcome. Best regards, --Gligan (talk) 16:50, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

@Gligan: I've done this, with an eye to WP:MOS matters. The short family summaries used in the amphibians list is a good idea, and I hope you'll do that with the reptiles list as well. It's interesting to the reader how widespread certain kinds of organisms are globally, versus their representation in Bulgaria.  — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽^ʌⱷ҅_ᴥⱷ^ʌ≼  09:49, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

Hello, SMcCandlish! Thank you very much for your work on both lists. I will add family summaries in the reptiles list and will probably proceed with a FL nomination. Best, --Gligan (talk) 16:04, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

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