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[edit](copied from my talk p) Yes, I should have done differently--looking again at the article, I consider it all essentially an advertisement, and a poorly made one at that. It would need so much rewriting that it qualifies for WP:CSD G11. the only reason I did not delete it before is that the subject is after all notable--or would be, if third party sources support the awards listed. I have deleted it accordingly. When you rewrite it , write in a plain descriptive manner. Give third party published citations for every award listed; do not rely on Imdb. Do not rely on the firms's web page. List the films either in paragraphs or a list, not a table. Avoid puffery and adjectives of praise. Avoid extensive discussion of motive. And see WP:CRYSTAL for why we do not include information about films that are not yet in principal photography. The example you gave has extensive third party references.
The worthiness of a cause is irrelevant. WP does not promote causes, films, or individuals. DGG ( talk ) 05:17, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
- Interesting! Thank you for the input.
- Not surprisingly, I do not agree with your decision to remove the page. It was frankly of a higher caliber than many production company pages listed on Wikipedia, not to mention that the company is notable for its associations and awards. I do, however, understand if you wanted additional sources listed for these awards and associations. I was previously not aware that IMDb was not considered a reliable source for information on films.
- My main dilemma is that I don't understand your comment on the table. It seems that a lot of very good articles use them to display production credits: Warner Bros., 20th Century Fox, and DreamWorks Animation, for example. I therefore disagree that a table is a poor tool to use in this scenario. Was it the awards being listed this way that you objected to?
- Also, what do you mean "The worthiness of a cause is irrelevant?" As I never mentioned that any information was included due to relevancy, I am a little confused by this statement. Are you referring to my comment that the information was relevant, or is this a different issue?
- Thank you for taking the time to answer my previous questions.
- I may have been a little too sharp in what I've just said above--it's the end of the day for me. I will take another look tomorrow. The article does need some extensive fixing, but quite possibly I can rewrite the article adequately-- It's more a matter of tone than anything else. I have the impression from the article that the importance of the cause affected the tone. so, for the moment, I have restored the article. I'll do some work on it tomorrow. What I would then need from you is the third party references for the awards. And I will get the new film in there somehow. My apologies. . DGG ( talk ) 05:48, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
- Thank you, I genuinely appreciate all of that. I'll work on tracking down individual references for the various awards.
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- Thank you! I'm so sorry. S.b.bellingham (talk) 07:07, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
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