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WikiProject Severe Weather Newsletter

A newsletter has been started for WP:SEVERE at Wikipedia:WikiProject Severe weather/Newsletter. Newsletter editors are currently in need of nominations for featured member to finish the newsletter before the begining of the month. Nominations are accepted at the above link. User: Southern Illinois SKYWARN and User:Juliancolton —Preceding comment was added at 23:41, 31 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject Severe Weather Newsletter (February 2008)

The WikiProject Severe weather NewsletterVol. I, No. 1, Issue 1, February 2008
If you would like to delete this message, the original is at Wikipedia:WikiProject Severe weather/Newsletter/February 2008

Welcome

Welcome to the first monthly issue of the WikiProject Severe weather newsletter! In this issue, we will welcome you to the newsletter, and give you an idea of what the project is about, what it has done, and what it plans to do. So, enjoy reading the February 2008 issue! If you have not signed up to receive the newsletter, you may do so at the newsletter page. If you do not sign up, you will not receive the next newsletter!

New project articles

Marion, Illinois Tornado Outbreak- Featured as a "Did you know" article on the Main Page
List of May 2003 Tornado Outbreak Sequence tornadoes (split from the main article)
2008 Vancouver tornado- Details the recent abnormal tornado in Vancouver, Washington
Barneveld, Wisconsin tornado outbreak- Details a destructive tornado outbreak that hit areas of Wisconsin in 1984.
January 2008 Tornado Outbreak Sequence-Details the recent tornado outbreak (see section below)

Featured story

This featured story focuses on the relative WikiWork for this project. The relative WikiWork is the measure of how lose a project is to having every article featured. It is a complex calculation;

ω = a + 2g + 3b + 4s + 5t

where a is A-class articles, g is GA-class articles, b is B-class articles, s is start-class articles, and t is stub-class articles.

Thus, the closer you are to 0 (zero), the closer you are to having every article featured. The WikiWork number for every class is added, then divided by the number of articles, similar to averaging, and it is found that the relative WikiWork for this project is Ω = 4.182. Ω is a symbol for the relative WikiWork factor. That is not the best number, as we are closer to 5 than we are to 0, and we are very close to 5. This means that the majority of the articles in the project are either stub, or start. That is what we need to change. So, while more severe weather articles are good, we should try not to publish as many stub class, and fewer start class articles.

Wikiwork statistics

Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Severe weather articles by quality statistics

Members section

New members User:Juliancolton (Talk) The most recent user to join the project, but is very active. User:Juliancolton is also an editor of this newsletter.

Featured member User:CrazyC83 is this month's featured member for WikiProject Severe weather. (The following text is from User:JForget's nomination.) User:CrazyC83 - One of the most active (if not the most) members in recent tornado activity coverage and monitoring. Recent examples of this includes the February-March 2007 Tornado Outbreak in Alabama and Missouri, the May 2007 Tornado Outbreak in Kansas and Oklahoma and the January 2008 Tornado Outbreak Sequence in Missouri, Wisconsin, Arkansas, Mississippi and Alabama. Had also made coverage in non-article tornado events such as the New Orleans tornado event on February 13, 2007 and the tornado event associated with the Superstorm of December 16, 2007. User:CrazyC83 made numerous edits, more than one hundred, to 2008 Super Tuesday tornado outbreak.

Significant storms

Significant storms last month included the outbreak in the United States in early to mid-January that produced 71 tornadoes and killed three people. Several tornado emergencies were issued in association with supercells during this outbreak. This outbreak was very similar to a classic spring severe weather outbreak, but extending farther north than even most late season outbreaks. The hardest hit areas on January 7 were the Springfield, Missouri metropolitan area and areas immediately to the north of Chicago, three people were killed near Springfield throughout the Southwestern Missouri Ozarks. On January 8, my area, the Tri-State region of Evansville, Indiana, was hit with the tornado outbreak. Only a few funnel clouds were reported in my area. Most tornadoes of the day were confined to the Memphis, Tennessee area and Eastern Arkansas, where one person was killed. On January 9 only a few wind and hail reports were received^[1]. On January 10, however, the action started back up. More tornadic storms developed across the Southern United States, including several significant storms that produced tornadoes. These tornadoes severely damaged rual towns in Mississippi, Alabama, and Georgia. The most notable of these tornadoes was reported in Lamar County, Alabama where 1 person was injured as several buildings were destroyed in this EF-3 tornado.

Five more deaths (three by tornadoes and two by straight-line winds) were reported on January 29 from a series of scattered tornadoes and a serial derecho across the Ohio Valley stretching south into Arkansas.^[2]

References

^ http://spc.noaa.gov/climo/reports/080109_rpts.html SPC reports for January 9
^ Storm Prediction Center 20080129's Storm Reports

For more references see January 2008 Tornado Outbreak Sequence

Southern Illinois SKYWARN (talk) 14:37, 10 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Weather radar

Hi,

I DO mind if you change back links to Doppler radar, not to weather radar. If you look at the discussion in Doppler radar, you will see that I had a long exchange with a tech on Doppler radars in the military where the Doppler fonction that he knows (continuous emission) is far different of the Pulse-Doppler radar used as Doppler weather radar is.

You can write Doppler radar in the texts but any link should be to weather radar.

Pierre cb (talk) 21:32, 11 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It is an acceptable compromised. Something for your info : the next improvement in weather radar will be the double-polarization by 2010, will you have to change all the links when NWS come up with a new name? To paraphrase Shakespeare a "weather radar by any other name is a weather radar" Pierre cb (talk) 21:50, 11 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Great! Could you post your solution in the talk:tornado and any other talk section of articles you might have discussed that topic. Thanks. Pierre cb (talk) 22:03, 11 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion of Template:User WPI

A tag has been placed on Template:User WPI requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section T3 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a deprecated or orphaned template. After seven days, if it is still unused and the speedy deletion tag has not been removed, the template will be deleted.

If the template is intended to be substituted, please feel free to remove the speedy deletion tag and please consider putting a note on the template's page indicating that it is substituted so as to avoid any future mistakes (<noinclude>{{transclusionless}}</noinclude>).

Thanks. --MZMcBride (talk) 19:39, 20 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Is this list accurate? Is it original research? I note the 1989 Huntsville tornado [1] with a reported damage total of $250 million. How does this not make the list? I think this needs explanation of methods for calculating the top ten list. - Dravecky (talk) 13:52, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Rear flank downdraft

If you have time, could you wikify Rear flank downdraft? Cheers, and happy editing! Kingturtle (talk) 15:03, 20 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Weather portal

I see that you've been doing a lot of work on this lately. I don't mind doing bording, redundant work, so if there is anything I could help with just let me know. Gopher backer (talk) 19:18, 29 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Is there a minimum quality you'd like for the "on this date" section, like B or higher? Or can any old stub be on there? Gopher backer (talk) 01:51, 19 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What about dates for Tropical Cyclones? I see that they have their own portal with anniverary's on it, but they still would fall under the general catgory of weather. Gopher backer (talk) 16:56, 19 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I think everything looks great so far. The only trouble I see is possibly finding enough articles for biographies, but maybe there are some out there I'm not aware of. I'll have some time later this week so I'll try to make a sweep through weather events and get them added to the proper dates. Gopher backer (talk) 02:22, 20 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I think I got them all. Gopher backer (talk) 01:08, 22 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hurricane Ivan tornado outbreak

I've also posted that concern at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Severe weather about the fact that Hurricane Frances spawned less tornadoes then Hurricane Ivan and even Hurricane Beulah (which I could also add a separate list article if necessary - being the second most tornado-produced tropical cyclone should have its separate list even though National Weather Service has no tornado damage descriptions). As for Hurricane Frances, I've counted 103 tornadoes only not 123 contrary to what List of North American tornadoes and tornado outbreaks mentions. That would make Ivan the most tornado-produced cyclone with 119 and that's excluding what may have been produced in Texas when it looped across the Ocean, central Florida and the Golf. See User:JForget/Hurricane Frances tornado outbreak and [2]. The reason why the Frances outbreak is not on mainspace is because of the number of tornadoes issue. I am pretty sure the editor included the tornadoes in Iowa and Wisconsin stemming from a completely different storm from Frances.JForget 23:02, 30 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Portal:Disasters

I did last month's update on time. I have been busy the last few weeks studying for final exams. I will update Portal:Disasters soon. Nishkid64 _{(Make articles, not wikidrama)} 15:40, 9 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

List of Connecticut Tornadoes

Sorry, my girlfriend sort of hijacked my username last night. I figured she might do something stupid like that...she's sort of a prankster. in any case, it was fairly harmless anyway, but I'm glad you caught it quickly. Thank you for your discretion in withholding the vandalism notice. I would never purposefully vandalize any page (except once I did to Paris Hilton's, but I don't regret that) Thanks! Antimatter--talk-- 12:34, 22 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Photos

In regards to Talk:Tornadoes of 2001#Tornado photo, I think a photo like this can be used. At the bottom of every NWS page there is a disclamer ([3]) that states everything on government servers is considered in the public domain unless specifically stated otherwise. So really the only question is, if a photo has a credit on it, does that imply specificly that it is not in the public domain? According to two admins I've asked, they say those are fine to use, because it does not specifically state that you can't. The images that are not ok to use are the ones that say "This photo is owned by X is under copyright" (see here for an example of that, fourth pic down). I had reservations about this at first, but I have brought the issue up with two different administrators with significant experience with images and wikipedia, and they are in agreement that these are fine to use. (here is one conversation - User talk:Elkman/Archive8#Image review, the other is on the Commons, I can find that later.) Gopher backer (talk) 21:51, 27 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Re: WP:FPOC for Portal:Weather

Hmm. As tropical cyclones are a part of the weather, I think it wouldn't hurt to include a couple TC selections in Portal:Weather, but it's your call. Cheers, Juliancolton ^Tropical ^Cyclone 15:32, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Food for thought... I noticed that Portal:Earth sciences (which is also a Wikipedia:Featured portal candidates at this time) is currently using April 6-8, 2006 Tornado Outbreak as their selected article, so maybe we could sprinkle some TC events into Portal:Weather as well. WxGopher (talk) 17:39, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Merger proposed

I'm proposing a merger on an article you worked on. Since the shelf clouds and roll clouds are subset of the arcus clouds, they should be integrated into the later article. This would make a more complete article instead of splitting the information among three articles. Anwer in Talk:arcus cloud.

Pierre cb (talk) 04:41, 15 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Where do I put stuff like this?

Touché sir, I had no idea people watched for that sort of thing. I thought I was being clever, and now it's actually embarrassing because my insults weren't even that good. Anyway, I started with the Politics page for a reason; the section on Aristotle is not correct. When Aristotle said that man is by nature a political animal, he did not mean it as we would think today, because the Greek word 'politico' means so much more than our modern "equivalant," politics.

Anyway, sorry about the whole insult thing, I'm sure you get it all the time. - Me —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.22.197.203 (talk) 04:42, 25 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

reassessing

Do you have any specific plans for re-assessing articles with the new C class? I'll help if you want, but I'm not sure if that's even ready yet. let me know! WxGopher (talk) 22:47, 25 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think it looks good. WxGopher (talk) 01:53, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

gadget

Hi brains. The script you asked about is built right into preferences now, as a "gadget". (See gadgets tab / "Display an assessment of an article's quality as part of the page header for each article.") What I can't figure out is why I'm not getting any royalties.

Simplest thing to do is remove the code from your monobook.js and turn the preference on. –Outriggr § 02:15, 1 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Winter waterspout

Hi,

You have participate to the article called Winter waterspout. Althought they are very rare, exept for the season they physically are produce the same way as any waterspout : strong low level instability and weak wind shear. So I have proposed to merge that article into a section a section of waterspout. Could you comment at Talk:Waterspout.

Pierre cb (talk) 02:54, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Portal

No problem. I was in a panic because I would create a page and it wouldn't update! Finally I had to step away for a while and when I came back suddenly everything was there. Does it always take time for stuff to "catch up" on the main portal page? Also, I wasn't sure on the biography, I just found a list of meteorologists and took the best article I could find. WxGopher (talk) 02:23, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

question, I was looking at the "On this day" stuff you'd created, and it looks like what you did is only added days on which there are already specific events. i.e.:

Portal:Weather/On this day/07/06

Is there a reason why you can't add every day in? Does that mess anything up? I haven't actually tried saving it, but I did a preview to a date that does not exist yet (July 5) and it looked okay from there. WxGopher (talk) 02:55, 2 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If you know of one, we could use a good biography for this month. WxGopher (talk) 15:09, 2 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You have new messages

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Thanks for the heads up

Good luck! WxGopher (talk) 20:09, 27 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Issues

1. There was a deletion issue with the article Shouting match. Do you think that the article qualifies for proposed deletion? If it does, please help me correct its issues. I have decided to remove the deletion tag on this one to contest the deletion. Even though I may have risked an edit war, I was told by an administrator that I was allowed to remove the tag to contest the deletion.

2. Merging concern with Instability (meteorology)

Also,

Hello, Runningonbrains. You have new messages at Talk:Training_(meteorology).
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-- IRP ☎ 21:32, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

AfD

Can you please help me at: Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Shouting_match. I would like to know if you think it should be deleted. -- IRP ☎ 04:38, 4 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Bongomatic's after the articles again!

Look at what he/she did to Training (meteorology) and Storm train. -- IRP ☎ 14:38, 4 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Why's everybody saying "merge", oblivious to my post?

You should see my post and reasoning at: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Storm train. -- IRP ☎ 20:14, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

My project page

This page is where I place my articles until they are good enough to go to the main space. -- IRP ☎ 20:37, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Notification

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Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Connecticut tornadoes

Hi, there are three issues which you haven't resolved on this FLC. I will support as soon as you address them. Dabomb87 (talk) 22:44, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I struck those issues. I have one more source related question on the FLC. Dabomb87 (talk) 02:18, 22 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Merge notice

I have merged VORTEX and VORTEX2 into VORTEX projects. -- IRP ☎ 15:49, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wallingford Tornado of 1878

I am reviewing your article for GA, as Juliancolton listed it for a second review. I have listed some comments on Talk:Wallingford Tornado of 1878/GA2. Please feel free to contact me with comments or questions. Regards, —Mattisse (Talk) 23:20, 1 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

[1] ttp://spc.noaa.gov/climo/reports/080109_rpts.html SPC reports for January 9

[2] Storm Prediction Center 20080129's Storm Reports

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