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Your submission at Articles for creation: JCards (February 13)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by Dan arndt were:

This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:

in-depth (not just passing mentions about the subject)
reliable
secondary
independent of the subject

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The comment the reviewer left was:

Fails WP:GNG, requires significant coverage in multiple independent secondary sources. GitHub and Lyudaio are both primary sources.

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Dan arndt (talk) 04:20, 13 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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February 2023

Hi Rsjintel! I noticed that you have reverted to restore your preferred version of Jake Flores several times. The impulse to undo an edit you disagree with is understandable, but I wanted to make sure you're aware that the edit warring policy disallows repeated reversions even if they are justifiable.

All editors are expected to discuss content disputes on article talk pages to try to reach consensus. If you are unable to agree at Talk:Jake Flores, please use one of the dispute resolution options to seek input from others. Using this approach instead of reverting can help you avoid getting drawn into an edit war. Thank you. Firestar464 (talk) 22:48, 23 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The person reverting my changes is doing so to protect the image of the person in question. They claimed my sources weren't reliable yet my sources were pulled directly from the aforementioned individuals' Twitter account.

The Jake Flores page has a history of vandalism from both fanbases, but this doesn't mean the Social Media Controversy that lasted over a year didn't happen.

Kind regards,

-rsjintel Rsjintel (talk) 22:54, 23 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Using tweets to add a controversy section to the biography of a living person is never acceptable. If you continue, you will be blocked. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 23:26, 23 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

They both talked about it on their shows and it was a major conflict between fanbases. Other notable figures have Tweets as their references surrounding their public persona, yet somehow Jake Flores is special.

I'll stop editing that page, but I'm not going to pretend like this isn't ridiculous. Rsjintel (talk) 23:32, 23 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

As soon as they're is significant coverage in reliable secondary sources there well be a reason to discuss the inclusion. If it is noteworthy there should be plenty of independent coverage. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 23:43, 23 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

https://www.austinchronicle.com/arts/2011-11-25/where-comedy-lives/https://bestnewyorkcomedy.com/tag/jp-mcdade/

https://standuprecords.com/collections/jake-flores

You don't think a decade+ long close relationship that split negatively isn't worth covering on his page? Rsjintel (talk) 23:51, 23 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

https://twitter.com/feraljokes/status/1529613473990205440?s=20

Had a very public meltdown about it... Rsjintel (talk) 23:56, 23 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

None of the sources you provided support what you added, and tweets aren't reliable sources, or WP:DUE. Our coverage mirrors what reliable secondary sources say, not what tweets we think are important. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 00:39, 24 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Twitter is a site with user-generated content. This fails Wikipedia's definition of a reliable source because there is no editorial review before publication. Therefore all social media platforms (Twitter, YouTube, Facebook, etc.) are by default rejected as sources, unless they are the official social media accounts of existing reliable sources (mainstream TV/online news organizations and reputable newspapers). --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 03:48, 24 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I will add that this also applies to your edits to Adam Friedland and Nick Mullen. Both of those section additions also fail WP:DUE. Jalen Folf (talk) 20:23, 25 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Reminder of Talk page discussions and edit warring

Hello. I'm just sliding in to let you know that you have Talk page threads waiting for your reply at both Talk:Nick Mullen and Talk:Adam Friedland. I would also like to remind you that a Talk page discussion is preferrable over edit warring your preferred content, and that any contentious material can easily be subject to WP:BRD. Jalen Folf (talk) 07:16, 13 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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-- Deepfriedokra (talk) 22:47, 16 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Concern regarding Draft:JCards

Hello, Rsjintel. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that Draft:JCards, a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Drafts that have not been edited for six months may be deleted, so if you wish to retain the page, please edit it again or request that it be moved to your userspace.

If the page has already been deleted, you can request it be undeleted so you can continue working on it.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 05:01, 16 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:JCards

Hello, Rsjintel. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "JCards".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. When you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 04:23, 13 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]