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Gnostic saints

There are dozens of Gnostic saints. Almost none of them had anything to do with the development of Thelema, which is what the section where you are putting that info is about. Bacon is not relevant. Please add material about Thelemic saints at Saint (Thelema), which is where it belongs. Skyerise (talk) 17:01, 15 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The sainthood is mentioned under Rebalis so why doesn't the article merit a section about them?Rote1234 (talk) 17:08, 15 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Rabelais is mentioned because Thelema was originally his idea. "Thelema" does not have saints, per se. The church affiliated with Thelema is Ecclesia Gnostica Catholica. It is the formal organization that determines sainthood. We don't put a list of saints on Christianity either, we put them in the subarticle where there are discussed (e.g. List of Catholic saints and List of saints by pope), to avoid duplication. Bacon is simply not relevant in the section we are talking about. Then the other 75 saints have to be added there too? Why? There used be be a long list, but it has been deleted several times. See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Saints of Ecclesia Gnostica Catholica for the most recent deletion discussion. There is room at Saint (Thelema) for the whole list, if you think you can source it and establish notability better than the last guy. Skyerise (talk) 17:45, 15 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Chronology in history sections

Histories and history section address things mostly chronologically. So don't be surprised if you get reverted when you put the 11th century after the American Revolution.

Also please be aware of our bold, revert, discuss policy. If you add something to an article and another editor removes it, you are not supposed to put it back until you get consensus from the other editors on the article talk page. You won't last long here if you think your edits are entitled. Skyerise (talk) 21:15, 15 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

So then the sentence can go before the one of the American revolution. Neby only reverted it because it was in the wrong spot.Rote1234 (talk) 21:17, 15 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Suggest you discuss it on the article talk page. You need the agreement of the regular editors of the article on the content and placement to get any change to stick. Skyerise (talk) 21:18, 15 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. This is not the wild west anymore. You actually have to be really good at encyclopedic writing, paying attention to detail, and using recent and relevant sources. Sourcing something to an 1836 source could be a problem for other editors too. Skyerise (talk) 21:21, 15 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Encyclopedias are not built by inserting little bits of trivia. Skyerise (talk) 21:23, 15 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Here is a 2023 Pen & Sword source referring to it as "Benevolent despotism" which is also mentioned in the history section of the article. This will be a good addition to expound on that. Since Neby only had a problem with the location of the sentence, I will add a new one now and will go to talk if he reverts it again https://books.google.com/books?id=huSdEAAAQBAJ&pg=PT229&dq=%22tostig%22+%22despotism%22&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&source=gb_mobile_search&ov2=1&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjJzemnofj-AhWImIkEHbl5AOgQ6AF6BAgBEAM#v=onepage&q=%22tostig%22%20%22despotism%22&f=false Rote1234 (talk) 21:28, 15 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Good plan. Just so you don't get blindsided, you can get blocked from editing if you do more than 3 reverts on the same article within 24 hours. See edit warring for details. Skyerise (talk) 21:32, 15 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I appreciate that and thanks for the heads upRote1234 (talk) 21:37, 15 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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