User talk:Ronhip

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Help request

{{helpme}} There are multiple images named "Palace of Fine Arts.jpg". I want to use one specific image. How do I specify in my image tag WHICH exact image to use? Ronhip (talk) 21:53, 2 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There's only one Image:Palace of Fine Arts.jpg. Each image has a separate name, so no two images can be named the same exact thing. Killiondude (talk) 22:00, 2 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I suspect the 'other one' you are thinking of is File:Palace of fine arts.jpeg. Note the lower-case 'f' and 'a'; it's not the same name. Chzz ► 22:08, 2 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

In more detail:

I'm rewriting (completely) the article on the Exploratorium. In the InfoBox, I want the image I submitted to the Commons to show up. The image is here: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Palace_of_Fine_Arts.jpg

What's showing up is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Palace_of_Fine_Arts.jpg

The Infobox code is: {{Infobox Museum |name = The Exploratorium |image = Palace of Fine Arts.jpg |imagesize = 300 |map_type = |latitude = |longitude = |established = 1969 |location = [[San Francisco]], [[California]], [[USA]] |type = [[Science, Art and Human Perception]] |visitors = 600,000 visits annually |director = Dennis Bartels |curator = |publictransit= |website = http://www.exploratorium.edu/ }}

How do I get the Commons image to show? {{helpme}} Ronhip (talk) 22:46, 2 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting. Am investigating now; will report back very soon. Chzz ► 22:58, 2 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well, not much of an answer, I'm afraid. The easiest way to sort it out is to re-upload the image to commons under a different name - then get the first version on commons removed, by going to the file on commons, editing it, and putting {{duplicate|NEW-FILENAME-HERE.jpg}}.

Sorry I can't come up with a smarter, more technical answer. Hope this will be OK. Otherwise, use another helpme or talk to us live. Chzz ► 23:33, 2 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Exploratorium copyright issues

Please do not add copyrighted material to Wikipedia without permission from the copyright holder. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material; such additions will be deleted. You may use external websites as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing. (Note: Please don't be discouraged by the relative harshness of the copyright warning; feel free to add any useful non-copyright-violating content) Thanks, Bumm13 (talk) 13:21, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I see that, according to your userpage, you are the webmaster of The Exploratorium's website. That may be well and good, but did you actually read the link provided earlier about Wikipedia:Copyrights? Are you familiar with your employer's own copyright policy and how its policy is incompatible with Wikipedia's policy?

Compare the following:

From Exploratorium: Use Policy

Use of Materials Posted on this Site
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to the Preamble of the GNU Free Document License:

0. PREAMBLE

The purpose of this License is to make a manual, textbook, or other functional and useful document "free" in the sense of freedom: to assure everyone the effective freedom to copy and redistribute it, with or without modifying it, either commercially or noncommercially. Secondarily, this License preserves for the author and publisher a way to get credit for their work, while not being considered responsible for modifications made by others.
This License is a kind of "copyleft", which means that derivative works of the document must themselves be free in the same sense. It complements the GNU General Public License, which is a copyleft license designed for free software.

We have designed this License in order to use it for manuals for free software, because free software needs free documentation: a free program should come with manuals providing the same freedoms that the software does. But this License is not limited to software manuals; it can be used for any textual work, regardless of subject matter or whether it is published as a printed book. We recommend this License principally for works whose purpose is instruction or reference.

Note that "You may not reproduce, record, publish, modify or distribute any Exploratorium digital assets for commercial purposes without prior written consent from the Exploratorium" conflicts with "...to assure everyone the effective freedom to copy and redistribute it, with or without modifying it, either commercially or noncommercially.", as the former prohibits commercial use whereas the GFDL specifically allows for it (it cannot be restricted). As the article text stands in its current form, it cannot comply with the terms of GFDL as laid out by your employer. I just thought I'd elaborate on the matter in case the text from the Exploratorium's website is removed from the article in the future so that you'll have an understanding as to why that may have happened.

Regards, Bumm13 (talk) 06:38, 8 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

What materials are you stating are copyrighted that I posted?

Although we do claim copyright to the material on our site, that is not THIS site. I don't understand your objections. This material was done specifically for Wikipedia and hence we release this material to the commons. Please also note that on our permissions page we state (above), "for commercial purposes" which the Wikipedia is certainly not and hence within our guidelines.

Please enlighten me. I'm new at this. Should I put up a page on our site with this text specifically releasing it to the commons like I had to do with the photos? If so, see http://www.exploratorium.edu/wiki_commons/

Thanks for any help you can offer.

ronhip

Explanation for reversion

You recently reverted my edits to the Exploratorium page. I agree completely with the removal of the copy-paste box, but I would like to hear your reasoning behind the complete reversion. Logical Gentleman (talk) 22:16, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]