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WikiProject Australia newsletter

Issue 2, Volume 1 — January 1, 2008

Welcome! WikiProject Australia is a WikiProject, which aims to improve Wikipedia's coverage of Australia and Australia-related topics. This newsletter exists simply to notify Australian Wikipedians of ongoing events within the project and relating to Australia on Wikipedia.

Australian Wikimedia chapter

Wikimedia chapters are independent organisations run by Wikimedians to further promote the Wikimedia projects run by the Wikimedia Foundation, and to "empower and engage people around the world to collect and develop educational content under a free license or in the public domain, and to disseminate it effectively and globally". This means that we in the chapter can promote Wikipedia and other Wikimedia wikis and their contributor's work in our area. Currently, a chapter for Australia is in discussion. If you're interested in helping the Wikimedia Foundation in more ways than just creating articles, and by promoting Wikipedia and other projects so people can start to read your work and become contributors, then consider adding yourself to the interested participants list at www.wikimedia.org.au

Th e proposed chapter also has an IRC channel on the freenode network: join #wikimedia-au next time you are online. The seventh IRC meeting for Wikimedia Australia will also be held in this channel at 8 pm (AEDT-UTC+11) on January 6 (WA at 6pm, SA at 7:30pm and QLD at 7pm). For more information, visit this page.

Recent happenings

2007 has been an excellent year for WikiProject Australia and its members – a sudden rise in article quality (see "Quality watch"), more article collaboration, portal creation, gap-filling article creation, image requests fulfilled, newsletter writing and award awarding. Success!

A sudden surge in new Portals took place late in the year, with numerous new portals being created and later being promoted to featured status, the best a young portal can get. Among the portals currently being worked on are: South Australia, New South Wales, Australian cars, Music of Australia, Powderfinger, Queensland, with portals for a lot of other topics to come very soon in the new year.

Portals and "topics" go hand in hand (not really), and many within the project and throughout Wikipedia aspire to achieve featured topic status for a particular topic. Goals to promote all capital cities to featured status, and among others, a Powderfinger featured topic, and a featured topic on The Invincibles cricket team. It's for sure that 2008 will be filled with Aussie pride, so hang in there with those flags, everyone! Especially on Australia Day, *hints surprises* :)

Of course, writing featured articles and making up clever hooks for use on "Did you know" isn't the only way to contribute. Many users contribute day-in, day-out, maintaining the project and portals, tagging and assessing articles, making suggestions at featured article candidacies, coordinating collaborations within the project, responding to peer reviews, save valid articles in deletion debates, in short, the stuff that if not done, will cause the whole project as we know it to slowly deteroriate. Many users who don't qualify for awards like Durova's Triple Crown award, qualify for others.

Moondyne recognised the users who work tirelessly every day to make sure that every thing is running smoothly by introducing a new award – the Drover's Award. Initiated in December, eight users have already received an award that is set to become a prestigious award for all Australia-related topic editors; SatuSuro, Longhair, Spebi, Moondyne, Grahamec, Mattinbgn and ScottDavis and more are sure to be awarded. If you know of any users who work tirelessly behind the scenes and have not yet been recognised for their greatly appreciated efforts, award them the Drover's Award.

More users have been awarded Durova's Triple Crown award for WikiProjects. This award was given to WikiProject Australia after 5 users who qualified for Durova's standard crown (one DYK, GA, FA). New recipients include Matilda, Moondyne, Mattinbgn, VirtualSteve, Gnangarra, RaNdOm26, and Thebainer. If you believe you qualify, leave a note at Durova's talk page.

Recent events

Jan 6: The seventh IRC channel meeting will take place on the freenode network at 8 pm (AEDT – UTC+11) in #wikimedia-au. See this page for more information.
Dec 26: One hundred Australia-related articles have been promoted to good article status.
Dec 20-31: New portals are created, old ones are revamped, some are promoted and others are soon to be among them.
Nov 15: "1967 in Australia" has been chosen as Wikipedia's Australian Collaboration of the Fortnight.

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Issue 2, Volume 1, January 2008. See newsletter archive for previous issues, or view this issue directly.

Newly-promoted content

Good articles

Featured articles

Removed articles

The Ashes

Recent collaborations

Quality watch

2007 saw a major feat for WikiProject Australia: one hundred articles were promoted to good article status. This is huge not only for the project's individual members and those who helped achieved such an impressive statistic, but for the whole of Wikipedia. Everyone involved has given readers from all around the world a chance to learn about Australia and relevant topics from the best of sources available on the Internet. A huge congratulations to all involved. And congratulations to Underneath-it-All, who wrote "2 Hearts", which passed as a good article, officially making him WikiProject Australia's "Good Article Centurian" and the article the one hundredth Australia-related article to be promoted to good article status at any one time.

Speaking of statistics nearing the number 100, WikiProject Australia has also seen an increase of the number of articles being promoted to featured article status. In November last year, seven articles were promoted, earning the month its official title of "Featured article month" of WikiProject Australia, and making it the month with the highest featured article achievement. Viva la featured article revolution! Also seeing some activity were featured portals – many have already been promoted, and a wave of excellently-crafted ones hitting our shores very soon.

End of year statistics

Here are some statistics for WikiProject Australia produced by Blnguyen and his Assessment Monkey of 2007's good article and featured article promotions. Summing it up: 71 featured articles, and 106 good articles.

Australia-related featured article production

Australia-related good article production

This newsletter is a monthly newsletter with details relating to events and happenings within the Australian Wikipedian community and WikiProject Australia. If you wish to stop receiving this newsletter, or receive it in a different format, relist your name appropriately at the subscription page. Delivered by BrownBot (talk), at 21:20, 3 January 2008 (UTC).[reply]

Tallon

Hi there Roisterer. I think I've done the business. Thanks, Blnguyen (bananabucket) 02:05, 8 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ping. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 06:10, 9 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I tend to sit down and write in big chunks, so just tell me what article you were thinking of doing so that I won't duplicate your work on a hard-drive and waste some human resources. I was working through Miller atm, from his early years....we could end up with 300k of text for that one :) just from all the non-standard things that he did. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 06:42, 9 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Taman Shud Case

Hi Roisterer. I was impressed by your knowledge of the case. You wrote: "There have been numerous unsuccessful attempts in the 60 years since its discovery to crack the code".....do you have any references for these attempts? I'd like to follow up on it. QueenAdelaide (talk) 01:22, 10 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Aust Barnstar

		The Australian Barnstar of National Merit
		for your efforts with Australian articles Gnan garra 00:33, 26 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wilfrid Kent Hughes

Hi, I have had another look at the above article and have now listed it as a Good Article. See the talk page for further information. Cheers, Mattinbgn\^talk 07:50, 5 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Gundagai is new ACOTF

Hi Roisterer. You nominated Gundagai, New South Wales for Australian collaboration of the fortnight. It has been selected, so you might like to nominate a To Do list, or otherwise help to coordinate the collaboration. Thanks. --Scott Davis ^Talk 09:26, 9 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Twinkle

You might find two more recent meet the pests devices of interest - they belong in your monobook.js space - if you are unaware of them - give a hoy and i'll let you know what to do (or help) if you would like - one is friendly, the other is twinkle - if you already are aware - apologies for intruding - cheers Satu Suro 23:59, 20 March 2008 (UTC) Embarrased - I hadnt realised that they were part of preferences - Satu Suro 11:10, 21 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Australia-New Zealand relations is ACOTF

Australia-New Zealand relations is the new Australian collaboration. You voted for the article, so please help to improve it in any way you can. --Scott Davis ^Talk 14:01, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your job on the photo

It has certainly improved the article. Lindsay658 (talk) 22:22, 21 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have copied the second photograph and placed it down the page -- because I have been able to identify some of the personnel (and, I hope, enlarging the photographs and placing them together, might encourage others who might be able to do so, to add further identification).

This, then, means that the photo at the top of the article is now duplicated. From this, there now comes the question of a possible alternative photo for the top of the article.

I have done quite a bit of searching, and I think that I have found one that not only encompasses all the doubt of war, and the hopelessness of the eternal possibility of impending death, etc. -- whilst having the knowledge that lots of others, who are not in service, and have taken advantage of working in "protected occupations" or having "friends in high places" are still playing in the elite sporting competition -- and the absolute joy of playing Aussie rules, in times when one abandons everything for the joys of the physical contest.

I thought, if one wanted to be consistent with the War Memorial Museum's version of things, that it might have a caption something like "Australian soldiers, sailors, and airmen take part in an impromptu Australian rules football match in Central Australia in 1944.[1]

If you agree on the photo -- which I think is a wonderful joy -- I wonder if I could prevail upon you to, once again, work your magic and place it at the top of the page (given that it is clear of copyright).

By the way, anyone with any real experience of Aussie rules, looking at the companion picture [2] (which is, IMHO, a far lesser record of events in terms of it being far less evocative of the sense of fun that such things involve), and you take the two as a pair, it is really, really obvious that they are playing end-to-end. And, in my view that is what makes the picture at [3] so exciting.

Just look at the excitement and joy of the bloke on the far left front (in the light uniform) as he waits for the "crumbs" (or, even, perhaps he is "waxing" one of the taller blokes in the pack).

I suggest therefore, that the caption read "Australian soldiers, sailors, and airmen take part in an impromptu game of end-to-end Australian rules football in Central Australia in 1944." Anyway, I hope that you can understand what I'm getting at. Best to you. Lindsay658 (talk) 11:34, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks again. Lindsay658 (talk) 16:44, 24 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Charlie Moore

I've been able to get some more information -- and, as well, some more accurate information -- on Charlie Moore which I am in the process of adding to your article. I was wondering if this picture [4] is actually in the public domain, or is otherwise available to the Wikipedia? — the same goes for [5] and [6]] — the reason is that the photograph that I have found, and placed on the page, is far more a photograph of the setting for the memorial, than the memorial itself. Lindsay658 (talk) 01:11, 30 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the encouragement. I was lucky to be able to get accurate sources.

By the way, given that [7] is a government site, and given that [8] appears on that government site, I am wondering if it is free of copyright? Lindsay658 (talk) 00:47, 1 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Quiz Reminder

Hello Mr.Roisterer, its your Turn in Cricket Quiz Bharath Bharath628 (talk) 18:32, 3 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

DYK

On 7 May, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Charlie Moore (Australian rules footballer), which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

---- Anonymous Dissident^Talk 10:22, 7 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Witchetty Grub collaboration

Witchetty grub is the new Australian Collaboration of the Fortnight. You supported its nomination, so please help to improve it in any way you can. Thanks - --Scott Davis ^Talk 13:16, 25 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Frank Walsh

Just reading through this article and comparing it to the heavily reliable ADB reference, i'm just wondering where you sourced your information from when first creating the article? Thanks. Timeshift (talk) 02:41, 28 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. It's just that when I read it and then ADB, they do seem quite different. A reader would have thought Walsh was stabbed in the back and pushed, but under ALP rules he was ineligable to contest the next election due to his age anyway (which I added). I'm not accusing you of anything, as I said I was just wondering where the information came from. Timeshift (talk) 05:22, 28 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I suspect the ref is moot for Kirkpatrick now so I removed it (i'm surprised nobody picked up on a couple of leaders, no pages at all!). Timeshift (talk) 01:53, 29 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Re: post on my talk page

Yeah, all you did was forget to put the ref names in quotes, and then again when you tried using the <ref name= thing. Don't feel bad about that. I once spent nearly an hour and a half trying to figure out what I was doing wrong with a PHP form. I had forgotten one closing parenthesis. (NOOOOOO!!!!) J.delanoy ^gabs analyse 14:21, 29 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ron Hamence/Charlie Walker

Ayup, I notice that you mentioned on Charlie Walker (cricketer) that he and Ron Hamence are cousins. Do you have the source for this? --Roisterer (talk) 10:19, 29 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. "The A-Z of Australian cricket" that I have used in most of my FAs. It's under one of their entries, can't remember which. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 09:44, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

RE: blocked

Hello there! I'm sorry for the complication; you weren't targeted, you just happen to be on an IP address that the vandal I blocked used at one point, which resulted in the software blocking you both. I can't exactly control that (hence the name "autoblock"), but I'll try to unblock you promptly. Cheers, Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP! :)} 12:45, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have to go, but you should be unblocked within a few hours automatically; see here for more information in the meantime. I'll try to unblock you sooner if I can find a computer. Cheers, Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP! :)} 12:53, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, it should be done. The autoblock should be lifted; if it isn't, then you'll be able to edit in a while, as I changed Roscoep's block so that it doesn't include your address. Cheers, Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP! :)} 12:56, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ugh, so the autoblock is persisting... could you email me your current IP address? You can find out the one Wikipedia is using by logging out and accessing Special:Mytalk. Then I'll check if your IP address is blocked. Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP! :)} 01:04, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I take your contributions to mean that you're unblocked? Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP! :)} 04:43, 5 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please chime in

At this thread. I'm trying to ascertain consensus before closing the PR and moving to FAC. Thanks! --Dweller (talk) 13:30, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

6/5 DYK

On 5 June, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article # Hugh de Largie, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Bedford ^Pray 01:31, 5 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ridley

The source I used for those list was Dean Jaensch's complete compilation of SA electoral results. I've gone and double-checked them, and according to him, there was indeed a seat of Ridley, won by Peter Lewis in 1993 against a Lib and a Dem. I've also checked the Statistical Record, put out by the SA Parliament, which confirms this. I would guess based on that that Murray-Mallee got renamed Ridley in 1993, which in turn got renamed Hammond in 1997, but I'm afraid I don't have any further information. If you don't have copies of those two documents, they're extremely useful for SA political history articles; the statistical record is available from the parliament's website, and I can send you the Jaensch records if you're interested. Rebecca (talk) 08:20, 16 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have the print copy of the 1993 SA electoral returns and it also calls the seat Ridley. It was 24,797 sq km and contained Coonalpyn, Karoonda, Murray Bridge, Lameroo, Pinnaroo, Tailem Bend and Tintinara. Candidates were Gary Orr (ALP) 3960 - 20.1%, Merilyn Pedrick (DEM) 1778 - 9.0%, Peter Lewis (LIB) 13955 - 70.9% (75.1% 2pp), 19693 total valid, 506 informal. (p.158, "Statistical Returns for General Elections, 11 December 1993", South Australian State Electoral Office, 1995. [9]) According to Appendix 3 (p.194) it was created in the 1991 redistribution by the Electoral Districts Boundaries Commission. Orderinchaos 09:53, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]