User talk:Roger Yokoyama

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Speedy deletion nomination of Draft:Manuzela

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A tag has been placed on Draft:Manuzela, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, group, product, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations for more information.

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Dear Tol

The manuzela is a product like the thunderstick that has a page on Wikipedia, I have a report in the Exame magazine, small companies, big business, Folha de São Paulo newspaper, Yahoo sports with a report, patents granted in Brazil, Japan, China and Korea of the South and Russia that I abandoned. It was the object of official cheering at the Olympics in Brazil and launched at the World Cup in that same country. All sources are verified and true. It is an unprecedented creation like the telephone or the internationally recognized soccer ball.

So I don't know why the page was summarily deleted when responded. I demand that you argue the action in the face of what was suggested here.

There is no spam or advertisement only the right to be validated as a new object that is exist in the world forever.

Please check the action and I will review the article. Thanks for the comment. Roger Yokoyama (talk) 13:47, 6 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Roger Yokoyama. The draft was not deleted due to a lack of notability; in fact, drafts are not evaluated for notability, nor are they deleted solely due to being non-notable. Instead, as the message states, it was deleted because it "seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a [product] and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic". Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, and its content should be written neutrally; it is not for promotion or advertising, and content that seems to be solely for those purposes may be deleted. Regards, Tol (talk | contribs) @ 01:23, 7 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for reply,

Indeed, how to talk about a novelty without "promoting" it, because is exactly to being known as it is, the history of a new object of human invention, I agree that it could be a COI and I will search for a neutral editor to do that, but tell me, when the telephone was invented was not elected to be in an encyclopedia?

Think neutral also, is not justified a new object created be in an encyclopedia as soon as possible? Don't think about my personal comercial interest, that exist of course, but at the same time is authentic and people have the right to know it besides marketing and promotion needs. How to know the balance between these two forces and be useful to people? 2804:7F0:BC01:CE76:C17E:CD48:1EA7:8AD5 (talk) 02:01, 7 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No problem, and thank you for following the COI guideline. I do not have access to the text of the deleted page, but based on the summary you entered when creating the page, I would note that writing that the product is "innovative" and has "revolutionized" an activity is heavily promotional, and does not follow the neutral point of view policy. It is certainly possible to write about a new product or novelty without promoting it; mainly, this would involve focusing on clearly established facts (not opinions), as documented in reliable sources that are independent of the subject (i.e. not related to the product in any way).

Further, I would note that, while you are free to market and advertise the product, and publicise it so that more people know about it, but Wikipedia is not the place to do it. Wikipedia strives to include neutral entries on notable topics; there is no urgent need to write pages on a topic or ensure that it is included "as soon as possible". As for the example of the telephone, if Wikipedia existed when it was invented, it would only warrant an article if it was well-documented in reliable sources (which it likely would not be until it gained some popularity), and the article would still have to be written neutrally. (Also, Wikipedia avoids taking into consideration whether a topic will become more notable in the future, as we have no way of determining whether that will happen — for example, we have deleted articles on topics that were not notable at the time, even though they are now, such as the iPhone and actress Meghan Markle.) Tol (talk | contribs) @ 00:41, 8 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Manuzela (August 6)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by Tol were:

This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:

in-depth (not just passing mentions about the subject)
reliable
secondary
independent of the subject

Make sure you add references that meet these criteria before resubmitting. Learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

This submission appears to read more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia. Encyclopedia articles need to be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources, not just to materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed. This is important so that the article can meet Wikipedia's verifiability policy and the notability of the subject can be established. If you still feel that this subject is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, please rewrite your submission to comply with these policies.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Manuzela and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
If you do not edit your draft in the next 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
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Tol (talk | contribs) @ 06:02, 6 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Roger Yokoyama! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Tol (talk | contribs) @ 06:02, 6 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Managing a conflict of interest

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Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 07:48, 6 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Liz, thanks for the comment.

Actually I am looking for someone that can write the history about my invention that has no much data in the web, not for advertisement but to be deserve mention of this history and the impact in the world facing the area of sports.

I really don't know how to edit and this is not my intent, to be a wiki editor to be honest.

But I took risk to do what nobody did that is count the history about Manuzela.

How can I find someone that could be interest to be an editor of my creation?

Thanks again,

Roger Roger Yokoyama (talk) 09:15, 6 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello! Roger Yokoyama, you are invited to the Teahouse, a forum on Wikipedia for new editors to ask questions about editing Wikipedia, and get support from peers and experienced editors. Please join us! Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 07:48, 6 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Manuzela (August 6)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by HitroMilanese was:

This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:

in-depth (not just passing mentions about the subject)
reliable
secondary
independent of the subject

Make sure you add references that meet these criteria before resubmitting. Learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Manuzela and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
If you do not edit your draft in the next 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
If you need any assistance, or have experienced any untoward behavior associated with this submission, you can ask for help at the Articles for creation help desk, on the reviewer's talk page or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help from experienced editors.

Hitro talk 08:22, 6 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Log in

Please remember to log in every time (or set your option to automatic log in). Some of your comments at Teahouse were as your account and some from an IP address. At Teahouse, not a problem, but if you were editing a draft or article logged in and not, that would be forbidden sockpuppetry. David notMD (talk) 11:47, 7 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Avoid paid article creators

There are companies that promise to create Wikipedia articles for pay. Many/most of these take your money and deliver nothing, or deliver a draft so flawed that it will not be approved. David notMD (talk) 11:50, 7 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]