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Second Battle of Alamein

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Military History

Greetings to Wikipaedia. Are you the Richard Doherty who writes books? Landing at Cape Helles might interest you, if you fancy a little light copy editing.Keith-264 (talk) 09:34, 29 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I am curious also -- are you indeed the author, historian, and iconoclast Richard Doherty? If so, I am overjoyed that you have joined the Wikipaedia community. Yours, Quis separabit? 19:43, 4 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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duties in an outstanding fashion for almost two years, he was killed in the Battle of Langemarck (Third Ypres, known commonly as Passchendaele, on 16 August 1917, having run “all day hither and

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Ebrington Barracks

Hi - I noticed that you removed some carefully sourced material from this article and replaced it with material which was neither sourced or properly linked. Please can you read our guidelines, particularly WP:SOURCE, carefully. You are free to add properly sourced material to the article but not to remove material which is already properly sourced. Thanks. Dormskirk (talk) 21:19, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi in return,

I'm not sure what your standards are for describing material as 'carefully sourced' but what I removed from the Ebrington article was highly inaccurate, e.g., no American soldiers were based there during the Second World War; James VII/II did not build a star fort there in 1689, information regarding the use of the barracks was completely wrong (it was not the base of the 27th (Inniskiing) Regiment or the 109th). What I replaced it with is accurate information. I have no idea how to show attribution on this site, however.

Hi - On the 27th and 109th are you saying that the Department of the Environment of Northern Ireland is wrong? And on the star shaped fort are you saying that the article by Simon Tait in the Independent on Sunday is wrong? These sources surely would meet the standards required by WP:SOURCE. I have now added in the material on the Cheshire Regiment and the South Wales Borderers (with sources) which is very welcome. Dormskirk (talk) 22:11, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi again,

Yes, I am saying that neither the 27th nor the 109th were 'originally' based at Ebrington. (Incidentally the Department of the Environment is now simply that; it doesn't have 'of Northern Ireland' included and hasn't had for many years.) DoE has produced some highly inaccurate material on this and other subjects to do with the City of Londonderry. I suspect that they believed they were describing the Childers-linked Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers but the 109th was the 2nd PoW's Leinster Regiment (RC); the Inniskillings' second battalion was the 108th. What makes you think an article by Simon Tait in a newspaper is an authoritative source? The only star-shaped fort on this site was built in the 19th century and I spent much time explaining to Ilex staff (including their then CEO) that this was so. King James VII/II was never on the east bank of the Foyle. The Cheshires did not join the BEF; the force that went to France in August 1914 was the Expeditionary Force. The 'British' prefix was added only in the autumn of 1914 to distinguish from the Indian Expeditionary Force which arrived at that time. The French port at which the Cheshires landed is correctly le Havre - French place names with a definite article use lower case letters - le Havre, le Mans, les Andelys; the authority is Michelin and the AF. How and why could a barracks be used as a fuel and munitions depot? RN and RCN ships refuelled from a tank farm at Lisahally and drew munitions from NAD Kilnappy, safely out in the country and protected by blast walls in case of accident. There is so much wrong with this article that it would be better scrapped. Your reliance on inaccurate and unreliable sources adds to the arguments of those who treat Wikipedia with distain. As an editor I would not allow an author to cite Wikipedia as a source but would encourage him/her to seek another source that would be regarded with some respect. As an author I have found Wikipedia useful on occasion as a guide to a proper source. Anyone writing about Ebrington or the Siege of Derry, for example, would be well advised to stay away from Wikipedia on those grounds.

Hi - I am trying to work with you but your comments are unhelpful in the extreme e.g. "there is so much wrong with this article that it would be better scrapped." Some of us work very hard to make wikipedia helpful to the reader! I know you are new to wikipedia but if you "have no idea how to show attribution on this site" I would encourage you to read the guidelines including WP:SOURCE before editing. I understand your view that the DoE has produced some highly inaccurate material but you have produced no alternative sources. It is sometimes easier to prove a positive than a negative: do you have any alternative information on where the 27th and the 108th were based (including a source)? Was it St Lucia Barracks? Dormskirk (talk) 20:13, 18 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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