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This is Riana's 30th talk page archive, dated 14-Aug-07 to 24-Aug-07. Please don't leave comments here; try this instead!

Riana

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Hi Riana. Is it possible to change the orange bar color when a user edits the talk page? Or is orange the only color it is? King Lopez Contribs 10:17, 14 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ooo.. Nearly empty talk page :) If you change your css, you could change the new messages bar colour, but I am unsure of the scripting... --DarkFalls talk 10:22, 14 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Bingo!!! --DarkFalls talk 10:23, 14 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Mine is white and round. If you tell me what colours you like I can make one for you :) ~ Riana 10:32, 14 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Should we rename this page to User talk:RianaFalls? Dark Falls has taken it over :D mind you, he is your sockpuppet ;-) Anthøny 18:41, 14 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You have to do some modifiying of User:King Lopez/monobook.css, or whatever. I'll show you how, if you need some help. –sebi 08:09, 15 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Since you are still the primary user of this category, I thought you should know. I just noticed today that the category had again been missing tagged images. This prompted a couple of hours of searching, which leads me to believe that the MediaWiki software has some bugsundocumented features when it comes to conditional categorization, based on ParserFunctions. It seems that doing any edit to the {{non-free reduced}} template (including a null edit, which does not show up anywhere) will cause at least some of the category to be repopulated. To begin with, I'd like to see if doing null edits when the category seems empty is enough to eventually catch all of them (I will manually verify with a check of the tags), but if that doesn't seem to work, I will switch to real dated categories (the "as of date" kind) and request a bot to create the dated category pages (DumbBOT seems like an obvious candidate). --Pekaje 15:50, 14 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hmmm, interesting! I'm glad you managed to figure out a (temporary?) solution, and I'll bear it in mind. I was wondering when I'd get my next deleting fix :) ~ Riana 17:10, 14 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Well, you certainly have some to go through now! I noticed that it seemed to have stabilized at some 77 images, but I was able to manually find at least one that was missing. Then I wrote a category-traversing script (set with delays, so as not to generate excessive traffic) using the query.php interface to parse the date on the tags, and found that 95 images should have been marked. Then I immediately went back to the category and noticed that now (hours after it had stabilized on 77) it did indeed show 95 images in the list. This makes me suspect that it was a side-effect of downloading the wikitext through query.php. It is possible that they would have showed up eventually anyway, once the category got emptied out a bit and another null edit was performed, but there is no way to verify that at this time. I'd like to see how it goes for a few days and then run the script again to see if every image got caught. If it doesn't seem to be working correctly, I'll get working on the dated categories instead. The reason I didn't do that in the first place is that the volume of images seems to be right between where it becomes difficult to handle it with no expiry category, but adding one for each date seems wasteful (some days there are none or just a few). --Pekaje 21:49, 14 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Well, the backlog has now been cleared, and another database run-through shows me that all images that should be in that category must indeed have been there, as there are no time-stamps older than 7 days to be found. I'll leave it as it is, then. If ever the volume of rescaled images demands individually dated categories, don't hesitate to let me know. I have the code for that ready in the history of one of my sandboxes. --Pekaje 16:35, 19 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Yes! And now that it's on the main speedy deletion page, and I've been moaning about it in the admin IRC channel a bit, I'm not working on it alone :D All down to you, you did a great job with the dated category. Let's see if individually dated categories become necessary at some point, I don't feel they will right now ~ Riana 16:37, 19 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You spotted a machine

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You spotted a machine called "Judge Michael". Is this user a sock of the Invisible Machine?

A lil help in Hindi ?

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Hi. Recently I had a request to translate the Scout Motto Be Prepared into Tamil and I accomplished it with ease. However, the same user, Chris, asked for me to translate it into Hindi... and there I was (am) lacking. Would it be too much trouble? From the Bharat Scouts page, I figured out that the motto is Taiyar... Hope you can help. (Or Dark Falls, mebbe?!) aJCfreakyAk 22:16, 14 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hmmm let's see... "Error code 221: Not compatible for translation." How come I always get the second-hand stuff? --DarkFalls talk 06:57, 15 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I would say it's Taiyar ho - taiyar means 'prepared', so putting the ho gives the instruction. I think! :) ~ Riana 07:12, 15 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I really dunno. But whatever it is (I think I failed to mention this the previous time), would it be possible for you to add the translation (in the correct script) to the Scout Motto article? Thanks. aJCfreak yAk 14:15, 15 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Your input, please

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Hello, I'll send you an email in the next few minutes, would you please reply. Thanks -84.70.118.203 13:25, 15 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Email sent, please read :-). 84.70.118.203 13:35, 15 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Riana, could you please go back on to MSN, it says you are signed in with a mobile device and I am unable to contact you. Thanks, 84.70.118.203 15:08, 15 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the new userpage

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You have built a monument more lasting than bronze and more glorious than the pyramids of kings, which neither corrosive rain nor the raging north wind can demolish, nor can the countless succession of the years nor the flight of time. You shall not wholly die, and the best of you shall escape of the Goddess of WikiDeath: you shall grow ever greater, fresh with the praise of future generations, so long as the wheel of fortune turns inexorably. It will be said of you, where raging Aufidus roars and where Daunus, poor in water, ruled his rustic people, that you were the first to create userpages of beauty for those of great intent. Take the proud glory that has been won by your merits and may Melpomene garland your locks with Delphic laurel.

Much obliged. Cheers, Moreschi Talk 14:38, 15 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

So tempted to delete it and ride off into the sunset, now :p No worries ;) ~ Riana 15:13, 15 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Aargh! You set it in Gill Sans? Damn you Mac OS X people! It renders as Times New Roman in my poor system! The... horror... Fvasconcellos (t·c) 15:20, 15 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I wouldn't use a Mac unless someone took my poor PC and threw it off a very high cliff ;) Hmmm, I did think Gill Sans was a font that might not render properly in everyone's browsers, I might have a look for something that will keep everyone pleased ;) ~ Riana 15:27, 15 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
*a little less jealous* Nah, that's fine. I love Gill Sans; shame I don't have it. Maybe you could consider adding a nicer fallback option for the rest of us ;) Fvasconcellos (t·c) 15:35, 15 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
And naturally, everything else I try doesn't render in my own browser :) Might just go with Trebuchet, it looks really ugly with Times New Roman ~ Riana 15:36, 15 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Your comment

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Perhaps I was unnecessarily heated, but guts is exactly what was needed to make that decision. I have heard there is some precedent for semi protecting RFA's, but this was still an instance of the application of IAR. To do so takes the courage and maturity to recognize when a continuation of business as usual defies common sense and the evidence at hand. If Alison is as experienced as you say, then she should be able to do so rather than make a knee-jerk denial. VanTucky (talk) 16:24, 15 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Your point could quite easily have been phrased in a far more courteous manner. ~ Riana 16:26, 15 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I'm a bureaucrat as well. It's more appropriate for a bureaucrat to do these things than an admin, and there's where Alison's experience as an admin clearly shows because she knew this too. --Deskana (banana) 16:27, 15 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
(ec) VanTucky, quite frankly, it took more "guts" to deny your request than simply slap down the prothammer. Protection coming from me just looks like disenfranchisement (on an encyclopedia that "anyone can edit" - it's one of the five pillars), and needs to come from a 'crat IMO, as it just has. Please assume a little good faith on my part here. I've a job to do as admin and, as has been pointed out already, am highly active on WP:RPP. I decline protections many times a day - Alison 16:30, 15 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Question

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On this image, what would be a proper Fair-Use Rationale? I am a little confused there and with the copyright status. - NeutralHomer T:C 05:06, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm a bit unsure if the image can be considered fair use in the first place... I was under the impression that works by the US government is public domain. Maybe one of the templates on Wikipedia:Image copyright tags/USA might cover it? If the image is copyright however, it needs to be taken off Template:StateGov-WV (Use of image probably only covers West Virginia and Seal of West Virginia...) It also needs a fair use rationale following the policy of the non-free image criteria, and a license tag such as {{Seal}}. --DarkFalls talk 06:20, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
OK, I copied the banner that is on most US State Seals and added a F-UR. Do you think that will work or do I need to add something else? If so, please let me know and I will be glad to. Take Care....NeutralHomer T:C 06:58, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
You'll need a descriptive fair use rationale that follows the Non free content criteria. For examples, see some of Riana's fair use uploads.... Also needed is to limit the use of the image. Try removing it from the template, and limiting the use of the image to only West Virginia and Seal of West Virginia. --DarkFalls talk 07:04, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
My Outkast upload was fairly poor (I was just moving it from a bad name) - I frankly despise templated rationales - have a look at this one, which is probably a bit better :) ~ Riana 07:14, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Okie Dokie:) I added that F-UR and took it off that one template. It remains on a template for the list of West Virginia Governors (part of the WV Wikiproject)...I am not sure if that is OK, which is why I left it be for the time being. If it isn't, please let me know and I will remove it from that template as well. Take Care...NeutralHomer T:C 08:57, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
That's great! However, since the image is unfree, it will need to be removed from {{WVGovernors}} - unfree images can't be used outside the article namespace. ~ Riana 09:12, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
It now only links to the state of [{West Virginia]] page. The WV Wikiproject people are probably going to be mad though. Oh well, ya can't please everyone all the time :) Thanks for your help. Take Care...NeutralHomer T:C 10:22, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ping

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Hiya, you're back to the post of official mediator at the Danah Boyd mediation, yes? If you have time, could you pop in? I think we could use a nudge to get back on track. :) Thanks, Elonka 06:52, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, we'll see if it helps. Evidently Boyd has been soapboxing about Wikipedia a bit via her blog, which is why the noise level has gone up. FYI, --Elonka 07:19, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Talk page box.

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I changed it around a little bit for myself, as you can see, but it's causing some problems with section headers going through it. Any way to fix that? Other than that, it works well, except the DYK box stretching the page --Lucid 09:21, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Alright :p If the message box annoys me too much running over the talk box, I'll ask her XD --Lucid 09:31, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sort of back

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Hi Riana, thanks for the welcome back, and especially thanks for protecting my page after some rather offensive vandalism to it. I still don't know what I did to "earn" it, apart from befriending Sharon. I really do not get why anybody would target her (or me) for such harassment. *sigh* I'm only partially active, because I'm still very busy. I haven't heard from Sharon yet, and I hope she's fine. Thanks again for the welcome! --Kyoko 12:52, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I forgot to say, and I already told Acalamari, but please keep my userpage protected for now, OK? Thanks. --Kyoko 13:32, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The beacons of dzasta are lit! Riana calls for aid!

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...and DarkFalls will answer! (Sorry, just had to.) Will (talk) 14:50, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Quietly waiting to see how long it takes for DF to express his indignation... ~ Riana 14:53, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Nooo... This is all wrong. I want Gondor! :) (What kind of sockpuppet takes 18 hours to answer? *sniffle*) --DarkFalls talk 08:14, 17 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, I'd fire you from the post, but who would respond to all the questions I don't know the answers to? :) ~ Riana 08:33, 17 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
(Sceptre waves his hand high in the air, but the almighty Riana takes no notice) Bad luck, next time mate... --DarkFalls talk 09:45, 17 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Would it be too much to ask for a little precipitation?!?!? (yes, I know that's from Evan Almighty, but still... "weirdo with the beardo" is a classic line). Will (talk) 13:46, 18 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

81.153.68.187

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Hi Riana, I had placed User:81.153.68.187 on the vandalism board, and you stated that he's just using the talk page. This user has been blocked multiple times on different IPs, and even caused the talk page to be semi-protected due to his constant soapboxing. What do you recommend be done, if he's not blocked. Regards, -- Jeff3000 15:17, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Blocked 24 hours. I was unaware of the entire situation. Cheers, ~ Riana 15:48, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]


71.226.14.239

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Hello Riana. Can you ban this user please? He seems to add the word "penis" simultaniously to every artcile he has edited. He swears a lot and seems nothing mere than a vandal. Thank you for your time LOTRrules 16:52, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi LOTRrules. I've given them a few warnings and they haven't vandalised past that, but if they do I'll issue a short block. Thanks for staying alert :) Cheers, ~ Riana 16:54, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks and keep up the good work...LOTRrules 10:04, 17 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

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Thank you for taking the time to tap me on the shoulder. When I read the post, I saw 'by Lsi:john' at the end and interpreted it as Evula telling Durova that she was being mentioned 'by me'. I stand corrected and I appreciate your intervention.

As for conspiracy.. heh.. i'm not significant enough to warrant a conspiracy against me. ;) Thanks again. Peace.Lsi john 16:52, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Conspiracy is perhaps a stronger word than I should have used... however I do realise that there are many editors who feel that admins can be a little cliquey, and some of your comments on EV's page made me wonder whether you thought so too - hence the use of that term. Either way, no harm done :) Best, ~ Riana 16:56, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, thats probably because you aren't familiar with the history between Evula and myself. No worries either way. Thanks again! Peace.Lsi john 17:06, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Perhaps this will help explain it (without the link):
"You are being mentioned at WP:ANI#Civility and personal attacks by User:Lsi_john. EVula // talk // ☯ // 15:12, 16 August 2007 (UTC)"
My screen doesn't always show the 'blue link' clearly, so when you read it in B&W it's easier to see why I mis-read it. Still my fault, but perhaps it's a bit more understandable. :) Peace.Lsi john 17:10, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Hey, no worries. Heat of the moment and all that, and an easy enough mistake to make. No lasting harm done. Cheers! ~ Riana 17:16, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'd be glad to become a party to the mediation; I've been considering asking you if it was possible. Do I just add myself to the mediation page and add an opening statement to the talk page?

And I realize I come across pretty strong; I'll try to cool it down. –Dan Hoeytalk 18:16, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not entirely sure what the process for being listed as a party is (this being my first mediation attempt) - I'll ask another experienced mediator. Cheers, ~ Riana 18:18, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
With the mediators' prior expressed permission, a party joins the case by adding their name to the list of involved parties at Wikipedia:Requests for mediation/Danah Boyd. Hope that helps :) Daniel→♦ 05:45, 17 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Ta Daniel! (Just came looking for you on IRC and missed you!) ~ Riana 08:32, 17 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I'll take our previous conversation as expressed permission, and join.–Dan Hoeytalk 13:46, 17 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the permission explicitly expressed on my talk page. I have made the preliminary edits on the page, along with an opening statement. You may want to reiterate the mediator's acceptance and add to your followup to the opening statements. –Dan Hoeytalk 17:46, 17 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

e-mail

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Hi Riana, just letting you know that I sent you an e-mail reply. No need to write back, but I just want to make sure it doesn't get lost in the midst of whatever else fills your inbox. --Kyoko 23:57, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Request Message Bar

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(New Messages) (Last Change)

Hi Riana. I am ready now. Can you make my message bar look like this? Lets try it. The background code is #87CEEB. I have no idea how to do it. So I am asking for your help. I have another question? Why is my Monobook protected anyways? Can you edit it? Or only I can edit it? I am not sure. But can you create this message bar for me Riana? Thank you. King Lopez Contribs 10:15, 17 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It's protected so only administrators, and the user can edit it... The reason is so your account doesn't get compromised I believe... --DarkFalls talk 10:21, 17 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I thought it was just to keep the gremlins out, but we seem to promoting a few of those, so... :p ~ Riana 10:23, 17 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Have to bugger off for dinner. DarkFalls, when KL asks for a message ping could you please give him one? Gosh, the things I ask of you. ~ Riana 10:24, 17 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Whatever the puppetmaster wishes :) --DarkFalls talk 10:25, 17 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Ok try editing my talk page now. To see if it works. King Lopez Contribs 10:27, 17 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Ok it works. I now know how to modify it. Now that the code is in place. Thank you Riana and Darkfalls. King Lopez Contribs 10:32, 17 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hey

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Thanks for this. You rock, sis! ^_^ btw, your talk page header looks weird?!!?? PeaceNT 14:36, 17 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ha, I'm using Firefox, and the talk title is normal now ;) Your userpage and talk page's design looks adorable (mine is dull!) Have an extremely nice weekend, PeaceNT 15:10, 17 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Wow, that would be great, thanks. =D I'm pretty sure anything can look better with your touch than mine, I'm totally ignorant about this stuff! PeaceNT 15:25, 17 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, I like violet and green, but I guess they never match. Actually I think those colors often end up looking poor when they go together, so you can use anything you want ;) Really, no preference at all. PeaceNT 15:42, 17 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

re: Nudge

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Lol! September 1 or so. Must. Finish. Thesis. Flyguy649 talk contribs 16:26, 17 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You're stalking my edits before I make them

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Twice today I've edit conflicted with you, and then you beat me to the punch (somewhat) at adding Davnel03 back to the Unsuccessful RfA page. Get out of my head. :P EVula // talk // // 17:50, 17 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Teehee! I'm just brilliant like that. OK, I'll find my own way out then. Mind your nostrils. ~ Riana 17:51, 17 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
...okay, that's just plain freaky. My nose has been bugging me for a week or so now... EVula // talk // // 17:54, 17 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Why don't you knock the ant out of it then? :P —  $PЯINGεrαgђ  17:57, 17 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Alas, my carefully planned pattern of editing around EVula has obviously failed. I'm off to choose a more willing victim :) ~ Riana 18:17, 17 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Unprotection

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Hi, over a month ago you fully protected the article Joan Chittister because of a conflict, I suspect now the conflict has blown over and/or been forgotten. I feel that the protection could be doing more harm than good now. If you agree, could you remove the protection please. Thanks. --​​​​D​​tbohrer​​​talkcontribs 18:15, 17 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, could you request on WP:RFPP? I'd prefer another admin review it. Cheers, ~ Riana 18:19, 17 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Alrighty, Thanks anyway. --​​​​D​​tbohrer​​​talkcontribs 18:22, 17 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Your help

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I noticed you're online at the moment. If you're still online, can I please have your help for five minutes or so? Acalamari 18:30, 17 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks; I need help with the section you just edited. Alison's not online at the moment so I couldn't ask her about the situation there. Acalamari 18:33, 17 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Riana, just so you know, Alison and Chrislk02 sorted it out. Thanks for your help though, I appreciated it. :) Acalamari 23:42, 17 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Mostly Chris, it must be said :) - Alison 00:13, 18 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion Review

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An editor has asked for a deletion review of CMS_Made_Simple. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article or speedy-deleted it, you might want to participate in the deletion review. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dannewestis (talkcontribs)

The revert

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Thank you! :) Acalamari 15:49, 18 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No worries, chook. ~ Riana 00:44, 19 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yay!

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(please do not revert this). The checkuser results have come back and non of the vandal accounts are me! Both the 84.xx.xx.xx ones are (and one of them you knew was me as I had to contact you with it) and all the other attack ones are unlikely, so will you please remove these from the appropriate accounts from the appropriate categories. Thanks, 84.70.118.203 17:26, 18 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Riana, I'd just like to say thank you for all you have done — you have really made a difference and now I can leave knowing the fact that one person took the time to help me, and for that I am eternally grateful. So, Thank you. Thank you so much!!!. Good luck with you and your life..... 84.70.118.203 12:16, 19 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I just had to say thank you again....84.70.118.203 12:18, 19 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
OK. ~ Riana 12:23, 19 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Riana, could you please go onto MSN as I need to ask something. 84.70.118.203 15:33, 19 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not currently where I have access to MSN Messenger. Could you please e-mail me? Thanks, ~ Riana 15:34, 19 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Email sent....84.70.118.203 15:44, 19 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Hopefully resolved to your satisfaction now. ~ Riana 17:45, 19 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I am eternally grateful, and now that is cleared up I shall be off, I may speak to you agin in the future if I ever appeal my ban, I'll see where my life takes me. Thank you. 84.70.118.203 18:43, 19 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hiya Riana, just a note that I answered your checkuser request. Take a look at Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Qst. See you on IRC later probably :-) --Deskana (banana) 19:31, 18 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Uh huh, thanks! ~ Riana 00:56, 19 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, thanks Deskana for that. Daniel→♦ 11:37, 19 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

zomg zomg zomg zomg zomg icons

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I hope you don't mind: I minor edited your icons so it views properly in non-monobook, but there's no difference in monobook. Will (talk) 01:18, 19 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

AARRGGHHH Dzasta!! Riana's icons doesn't view properly in non-monobook. (IPs looking at Riana's icons wail in despair, as police officials storm in...:) --DarkFalls talk 01:31, 19 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
How DARE you. ~ Riana 12:17, 19 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Was that serious or not? I hope not :( Will (talk) 16:59, 19 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I once edited a template Riana made. I still have the bite marks on my arm. --lucid 17:52, 19 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Diplomatic immunity... I pity you silly fools :) --DarkFalls talk 07:11, 20 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I was joking. ~ Riana 16:28, 20 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Review

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Since you seemed to be online right now Riana, can you review the deletion of Image:Mandogs.jpg and the indef block of User:Mahogs please. Take caution on the image, it contains very disturbing contents... --DarkFalls talk 07:20, 19 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

O.O Very good call. ~ Riana 07:22, 19 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Ewww. For the record (and I checked - urk!), this is the classic 'lemonparty' shock image. This will save other hapless admins from examining the deleted image. It's from a notorious shock site of the same name. Delete with impunity! - Alison 07:31, 19 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I should have written that myself, Alison. Sorry about your bleeding corneas :( ~ Riana 07:32, 19 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Well, good thing is I already finished my dinner.. That image would have rendered me User:Krimpet/Fake link. Oh well, back to being Riana's sock... --DarkFalls talk 07:49, 19 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Rouge... Hehehe. --DarkFalls talk 10:07, 19 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Heh, for what it's worth, that isn't nearly as bad as I would have expected, especially given the file name. Disturbing, yes, but I have seen worse (damn you, internets!). EVula // talk // // 15:36, 19 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Worse? What's much worse than old man sex? Actually, don't tell me... ~ Riana 15:39, 19 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, worse. I won't go into details (I like you too much to intentionally do that to you), but yes, there's plenty worse than that floating around (and no, I'm not talking about goatse; there's plenty of stuff that tops that). I've been a moderator for Ambrosia Software's webboards for many years, and while it's usually a great community, we've had our share of net-trolls that enjoy posting shock imagery. EVula // talk // // 15:52, 19 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
There's not much that's worse than that image. Unless you're studying anatomy that is... and trust me, surgery is sickening if you decide to study the human body. Not that I ever have, it's all those gruesome details and videos a friend showed/told me. (The videos ain't PG by the way) --DarkFalls talk 07:10, 20 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

My sysop review

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I'd like to invite you to comment on my sysop review. It's like an editor review, only to review my administrative actions, and let me know how I'm doing as an admin. When you have time, please leave some comments. WaltonOne 17:05, 19 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Walton, saw your note on WT:RFA. I'll have a look when I have time to go through your logs ;) ~ Riana 17:58, 19 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Please Stop

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Riana, I'd appreciate it if you stopped. Your skimpy clothing is distracting myself and other editors. Dfrg.msc 09:46, 20 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

A picture of my Dinner
It makes you want to puke? :( ~ Riana 16:18, 20 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
No, it's just really "distracting". Dfrg.msc 06:47, 21 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
That made him eat his words... :) Distractions aren't a bad thing by the way... --DarkFalls talk 06:51, 21 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Message from User:Diversitygroup

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Riana, in case you didn't see it, I'm moving the following message from User talk:Riana/Contact. --Geniac 15:34, 20 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You sent me something saying, Stop editing my companies page. I don't own the company, And I could not posssibly be all the other pepole who have edited the page to reflect accurate information. You have incorrect programming information. People are on the air talking about this daily and listeners are calling in , they are directing to the site to make corrections. That right exist for everyone. It is ridiculous for anyone to not update information. We have been informed that you refused to even acknowkedge that the company has an african americam president. I have asked for a forum to put a stop to what is a malicious attack on the progress of African American in the broadcast industry. No one responds to that, and I wonder why? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Diversitygroup (talkcontribs) 16:19, August 16, 2007 (UTC)

I'm not entirely sure where you got the impression that I was attempting to halt the progress of the African-American (as far as I can tell the progress of any race in any industry is a good thing... ) It is generally frowned upon for editors who are deeply involved with a subject to edit about that subject. I recommend you discuss your concerns on the talkpage of the article, since this is better than edit warring over the article. Thanks, ~ Riana 16:22, 20 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Uncivil editor

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Hello Riana,

There is an editor, User:Thamarih who is constantly being uncivil and who has engaged in personal attacks. I've tried to stay mostly out of it, as I find there's no point answering someone who is just ranting, but his personal attacks on other users is really getting out of hand. He's been given warnings by myself [1] and another [2], but he has continued his personal attacks. Another editor User:MARussellPESE brought up the case on the administrator's incident's board, but it's been ignored. Some very recent examples of his statements include:

  • "Stop playing your stupid agnostic games, cultist" [3]
  • "Go to the devil, cultist! You don't own this place. And I ain't your dude, mofo!" [4]
  • "Go to the devil and go report to whoever you want, cultist jerk! You think I'm afraid of you or your threats?? There's a global momentum building right now against precisely the sort of misinformation hackery you Fascists have been engaged on wikipedia, with ramming down your misinformation and propaganda down people's throats. People like Kurt Nimmo and I have declared all out war on scum-bags like you." [5]

This in combination with his editing practices which go against all the reliable sources, bringing in his own original work is highly disruptive. For example, he keeps trying to change the name of the Azali article to Bayani when all the sources give the name Azali. Regards, -- Jeff3000 14:09, 21 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That seems pretty far out to me. I've blocked for 31 hours. ~ Riana 14:26, 21 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, hopefully he'll be able to contribute more constructively in the future. Regards, -- Jeff3000 14:39, 21 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Protect user page

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If you could protect my talk until this mess is settled, I'd appreciate it. Thanks.--CyberGhostface 15:01, 21 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

OK, protected for 4 weeks. ~ Riana 15:03, 21 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
You might want to softblock 64.38.192.0/18 too... Will (talk) 15:11, 21 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Iso blocked 64.38.198.0/24, reckon that'd do? ~ Riana 15:13, 21 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Might work - the IPs I've seen are in that range - I tend to be safer than sorrier. :) Will (talk) 15:19, 21 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Woo boy, I'll hold you to that :P

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Wikipedia:WikiProject Alternative music/Members - "Trying to focus on Aussie bands, and finding free images." (Yes, Giggy sees all). Would you, by any chance, happen to have an image of Powderfinger, or any of the band members? Here's hoping :) Giggy Talk 03:22, 22 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Uh uh :( And being the world's biggest moron I didn't save up in time for the tour. Hopefully some more clueful Wikipedians have (or some kind-hearted Flickr users... ) ~ Riana 03:40, 22 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
My puppetmaster listens to Powderfinger? Well you're definitely not a moron :) --DarkFalls talk 06:54, 22 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Notice of request for deletion of editor Riana :)

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Riana, the editor you are, has been nominated for deletion. We appreciate your contributions. However, an editor does not feel that you satisfy Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in the nomination space. Your opinions on yourself are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at User:R/EFD#Riana and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit during the discussion but should not remove the editors for deletion template from the top of your userpage; such removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you, and have a good sense of humor :). Wizardman 04:13, 22 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

A Strange Thing

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Hi Riana. How are you? Since we have changed my message bar. I have noticed one strange thing also. Other than my message bar which is dark blue I have noticed that the color orange on other pages are dark blue also. For example. If you look at User talk:Persian Poet Gal the time banner on her talk page is orange. But when I log in it turns dark blue.(Which is the same color is my message bar.) Now is that normal? Or we need to make an adjustment on my monobook Or it should be like that? King Lopez Contribs 09:56, 22 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

One more thing I have noticed. When I installed WP:TW on my User:King Lopez/monobook.js It works great in the firefox browser. But when I use Internet Explorer it blanks the screen for a second when I browse from page to page. Is that normal when I use twinkle in Internet Explorer? King Lopez Contribs 10:24, 22 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Changing the usermessage colours will change it wherever someone's used it, even for another purpose (eg on PPG's page). As for Twinkle, I'm not sure, I've never used it really, you could ask AzaToth. ~ Riana 18:13, 22 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
AzaToth wouldn't be able to help much. He already stated that making it work for IE is "damn near impossible". Okay, stop giving me that look Riana. It was my (credible) analysis... he actually said "technically impossible to implement, as IE doesn't allow forcing of mime-type" --DarkFalls talk 11:31, 23 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Deletions: missed one

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Riana, re this deletion, it seems you might have overlooked this.Proabivouac 12:28, 22 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You are correct, I was not told that the website was already linked publicly. ~ Riana 13:24, 22 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

A request

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Hi Riana. I just came across a user page (User:Beau Parent) that is obviously spoofing and attacking me. Can you speedy this for me as {{db-g3}} or should I go through MfD? I found it because an anon 219.74.29.101 (talk · contribs) blanked an old AfD. I reverted that and warned. However, it seems that it (the anon) is a vandal who regrets having created some things and is trying to hide the evidence. Any ideas what I should do with this all? Revert as vandalism? Maintain the "courtesy blanking"? Thanks, Flyguy649 talk contribs 13:32, 22 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I kinda IAR-ed on the userpage and deleted it - he's had it as a copy of yours and another admin's for some time, strangely. As for the blanking, I wouldn't worry too much - he seems to be playing around with some hoax article. He might have created it himself. Strangeness all around :) ~ Riana 13:43, 22 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. The IP is from Singapore, which is where the Ong Sai Keet that the fake biography was about was located, too. Cheers! Flyguy649 talk contribs 13:52, 22 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Tiananmen Square self-immolation incident

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Thank you for your intervention in the above. However, I would point out that the request was made under a false premise that there was a "dispute". There has already been a request for comment about one phrase in the whole article, and a sensible discussion has been taking place in the talk page. There have been two "reverts" with detailed comments, and no edit wars according to my definition, and none were imminent IMHO except possibly for the requester, who feels boxed in the corner as the sole dissenter. Habitual, occasional and non-habitual FG editors, had commented almost unanimously against keeping the phrase in its current form, but the requester appears to be pushing his way irrespective of the consensus and the evidence. Since yesterday, the article has been going through a major rewrite. I am requesting the protect be released. Ohconfucius 02:06, 23 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This is the problem with one person sneakily requesting protection while the others look away, I guess :) Unprotected ~ Riana 08:11, 23 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. He wasn't exactly sneaky, but he just wasn't exactly playing by the rules either. Ohconfucius 08:51, 23 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

blocked

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You blocked jameskucicDOTcom or something similar. Please consider placing a polite message on the person's talk page instead of automatic block with no explanation. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.227.161.96 (talk) 05:45, August 23, 2007 (UTC)

I do not leave a message because it is redundant. All the information can be seen in the block message the editor sees when they attempt to edit. ~ Riana 08:09, 23 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Doh

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[6] - well spotted! One out of 100 cat fixes isn't bad when you don't use AWB :) Neil  10:46, 23 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Not at all, only saw it because it was on the watchlist. And good work on getting through them by hand. Could never figure out AWB myself :) ~ Riana 11:05, 23 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Damn... Do you ever use any automated tools? or are you Chuck Norris? Well, I wouldn't expect any less from my puppetmaster... :) --DarkFalls talk 11:26, 23 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I'm just too dumb to figure out Twinkle and stuff :) ~ Riana 11:27, 23 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I only really use the page protection feature on Twinkle, because it automatically adds an expiry to the protection template (which it adds itself). AWB is useful for spamming stuff, or doing find-and-replace en masse. You should give it a go sometime. It's got a pretty limited field of use, but when it is useful, it's amazingly useful. --Deskana (banana) 11:29, 23 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I think I tried running it once and it broke something :( I do use CSDAR for speedying and Steel's script for protections, so it's not like I'm completely headless with these things :p But on the whole I think I prefer doing it by hand, leaves less room for error, and you can only blame yourself :) ~ Riana 11:32, 23 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Typical "Riana-like behavior". "you can only blame yourself". Me? Modesty never ran in my blood...Being a flaming coward, I would've blamed the automated script, or bot for the error. (It was out of control...a bot took over my account!!!) :P --DarkFalls talk 11:40, 23 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, now we have evidence of "good hand, bad hand" sockpuppetry! ;) -- Flyguy649 talk contribs 18:34, 23 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I've never used Twinkle, AWB, anything like that ... I think it's half incompetence, half dumb pride. And when I tried the VoA admin tools, it broke my browser. I probably put it in wrong. Neil  11:42, 23 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Ah good, I'm not the only hardcore editor that doesn't use automated tools (I'm on a Mac, and not even an Intel machine, so pretty much any automated tool is unusable). I'm glad to see I've got such wonderful company. :) EVula // talk // // 18:30, 23 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Mac? I don't think we can be friends. :) ~ Riana 18:33, 23 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I can only say one word regarding this: Firefox (Hopefully I don't get speedied for blatant advertising) :) --DarkFalls talk 11:47, 23 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I only use popups, and that's just to make looking around Wikipedia easier and the occasional revert (depends on where I see the vandalism, sometimes the undo button is quicker, sometimes popup revert). I'd really love a Wiki helper tool, but I run linux, and pywikibrowser gave me dependency nightmares last time I tried it. Someone needs to make javawikibrowser or Nixwikibrowser or something -lucid 23:07, 24 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hornetman16 name change

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Hi, Riana, I'd appreciate your thoughts here. I'm not asking for agreement — I'd just like to know your views. :-) I was going to ask Alison as well, but I see from her talk page that Hornetman has asked her, so I presume she's aware of the page. Cheers. ElinorD (talk) 17:38, 23 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Eli, I'm aware of the thread but haven't had a chance to contribute yet. I'll have a look now. Thanks! :) ~ Riana 17:43, 23 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Riana, I need your help...

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What if I have a son who wants to take dance classes even though all his friends are playing football? Oh, and is GT still being screwy? Will (talk) 23:08, 23 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You have a son and you're only 16...? Geez... you have been busy :) --DarkFalls talk 06:02, 24 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Why not. Even 16 years have children :P. --SkyWalker 06:08, 24 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

My RfA

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Hey Riana. I just wanted to say thank you for the nomination and support in my RfA, torturous and stressful as it may have been. After one day of monitoring WP:AIV, I'm just about ready to go running to Deskana to tell him to take the DAMN MOP BACK! :) Trusilver 02:15, 24 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

My Self-Nom RfA

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Hi Riana. Thanks for the note re: my RfA... I don't know what the problem is, I've tried to follow the directions but it doesnt seem to work. Any help would be appreciated. SVera1NY 08:00, 24 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the help. One more thing. I moved my initial nomination (long time ago) to Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/SVera1NY/archive... can it be moved back to Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/SVera1NY? I started the fresh RfA at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/SVera1NY2 Thanks. SVera1NY 08:07, 24 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Great idea! Can the SVERA1NY2 page be deleted? Thanks SVera1NY 08:12, 24 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the help. My nom is now up. Thanks again! SVera1NY 08:27, 24 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Review 2

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Not sure if it's broadcasted in SA, but a mention of Wikipedia was in ABC and SBS, mostly regarding Children Overboard Affair, Tony Abbott and John Howard. Since then, people started coming and adding POVs and vandalism comments to Abbott, the only one that was unprotected. Take a look at User:Tony Abbott, and my recent protection of the article, and correct if necessary... --DarkFalls talk 09:44, 24 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I can't see the Mad Monk saying 'lulz' somehow, can you? Good calls ;) ~ Riana 09:50, 24 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
As long as the user wasn't actually Tony Abbott, I'm happy. Despite looking like a fool if he is, my health care will be chucked into the toilet... :) --DarkFalls talk 09:54, 24 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
No DF, you did the right thing, I think. Impersonation of political figures is trouble here. If he is, he should go through the proper processes. -- Anonymous DissidentTalk 09:57, 24 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Might find this interesting Riana :) --DarkFalls talk 11:15, 24 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

replied

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I replied here.--Hornetman16 (talk) 12:59, 24 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I watchlist everything I edit. You don't need to leave me updates. ~ Riana 13:00, 24 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Riana. Not blaming you or anything, but you did spoil the general entertainment! ElinorD (talk) 13:01, 24 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
What do I have to do to prove it to you?--Hornetman16 (talk) —The preceding signed but undated comment was added at 13:11, August 24, 2007 (UTC).
Yes Riana. How could you ruin the entertainment...? (nice block by the way) --DarkFalls talk 02:26, 25 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hey

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Hey yourself :) I've been around, though I shouldn't... lots of work to do. I've been away from RFPP and CSD for so long I'm starting to lose my admin mojo :P Fvasconcellos (t·c) 13:59, 24 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Questionable Reversion

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Hey, why did you undo this edit? Seems to me that it was an improvement to the page. Just curious. GlassCobra 19:01, 24 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Banned user. Will (talk) 19:31, 24 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I suppose, but it was still an improvement to the page; for example, they fixed the header. Do banned users automatically have all their edits reverted? GlassCobra 22:43, 24 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, see WP:BAN. Will (talk) 22:46, 24 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]