User talk:Rhinocera
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You have shown interest in (a) GamerGate, (b) any gender-related dispute or controversy, (c) people associated with (a) or (b), all broadly construed. Due to past disruption in this topic area, a more stringent set of rules called discretionary sanctions is in effect. Any administrator may impose sanctions on editors who do not strictly follow Wikipedia's policies, or the page-specific restrictions, when making edits related to the topic.
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Doug Weller talk 15:00, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
Meghan Murphy
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Your recent editing history shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See the bold, revert, discuss cycle for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.
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- Sorry, Newimpartial, but I will be ignoring this warning given that your edits to a WP:BLP article are in breach of WP:NPOV and WP:BLPCOI and as far as I can tell, your edits are motivated to a large degree by your personal perspectives, with little regard to verifiable citations. Thank you anyway for linking me to some useful pages via this warning, I have read and considered them, but decided against the "BOLD, revert, discuss" strategy (which is apparently optional) in this instance because I think the issue at hand is too large and discussion is stalling due to heated arguments among ideologically motivated people. Rhino (talk) 23:54, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
- To assume good faith, I will point out that one-against-many BOLD attempts to bypass BRD literally never work on WP, the process of which requires discussion to produce consensus or at least stalemate (which are sometimes indistinguishable).
- Please note that you have repeatedly altered the lede or changed article content without offering sources, which brings your complaint about "edits ... motivated by ... personal perspectives, with little regard to verifiable citations" back in an elegant BOOMERANG. This is particularly the case since the sources you have assembled, e.g. on your user page, are either written by the subject of this BLP or have nothing to do with her, and are therefore strictly irrelevant, as are your citations of BLPCOI (which has nothing to do with me though it might apply in your case for all I know). Again, assuming good faith. Newimpartial (talk) 00:03, 3 August 2019 (UTC)
- To the contrary, the changes I made were to bring the content in line with what the citations were actually saying. For instance, none of them say that Meghan Murphy is critical of "transgender rights," instead they mostly mentioned "trans activists." As for BLPCOI, it says: "editors who have a strongly negative or positive view of the subject of a biographical article should be especially careful to edit that article neutrally, if they choose to edit it at all." Your previous writings on talk pages indicate you have very strong feelings about women you consider to be "TERFs." Rhino (talk) 00:14, 3 August 2019 (UTC)
- Actually, they don't. You might be confusing me with someone else. Newimpartial (talk) 00:30, 3 August 2019 (UTC)
- To the contrary, the changes I made were to bring the content in line with what the citations were actually saying. For instance, none of them say that Meghan Murphy is critical of "transgender rights," instead they mostly mentioned "trans activists." As for BLPCOI, it says: "editors who have a strongly negative or positive view of the subject of a biographical article should be especially careful to edit that article neutrally, if they choose to edit it at all." Your previous writings on talk pages indicate you have very strong feelings about women you consider to be "TERFs." Rhino (talk) 00:14, 3 August 2019 (UTC)
Hmm, just noticed something ironic. You put this scary warning on my talk page about edit warring and the "3 Revert Rule," but you broke that rule yourself. :-) Oh well, I did too afterwards. Rhino (talk) 00:52, 3 August 2019 (UTC)
- Actually, neither of us did, since the rule is not broken on the third revert but on the fourth. My practice, which I don't recommend since (unlike BRD) is not a best practice, is to revert three times myself and issue a warning at that point if needed. I will not be breaking that rule in any case. Newimpartial (talk) 01:00, 3 August 2019 (UTC)
- Ah, I stand corrected, thank you. I agree that your practice isn't the best; I found it somewhat aggressive and overly intimidating to be honest. Rhino (talk) 01:06, 3 August 2019 (UTC)
- Well, as long as you refrain from further reverts, I won't be throwing stones. But you won't get anywhere by crusading against BRD. Newimpartial (talk) 01:11, 3 August 2019 (UTC)
- Since BRD is not a set rule, but NPOV is, it seemed appropriate here, that's all. No "crusades" here. :-) Rhino (talk) 01:13, 3 August 2019 (UTC)
- Please take a look at WP:FALSEBALANCE, then. You are right, NPOV is a rule, and it must be interpreted correctly for each situation. Newimpartial (talk) 01:16, 3 August 2019 (UTC)
- Since BRD is not a set rule, but NPOV is, it seemed appropriate here, that's all. No "crusades" here. :-) Rhino (talk) 01:13, 3 August 2019 (UTC)
- Well, as long as you refrain from further reverts, I won't be throwing stones. But you won't get anywhere by crusading against BRD. Newimpartial (talk) 01:11, 3 August 2019 (UTC)
- Ah, I stand corrected, thank you. I agree that your practice isn't the best; I found it somewhat aggressive and overly intimidating to be honest. Rhino (talk) 01:06, 3 August 2019 (UTC)
Nomination of Jessica Yaniv genital waxing case for deletion
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A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Jessica Yaniv genital waxing case is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jessica Yaniv genital waxing case until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Nblund talk 15:55, 3 August 2019 (UTC)
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[edit]This is a standard message to notify contributors about an administrative ruling in effect. It does not imply that there are any issues with your contributions to date.
You have shown interest in living or recently deceased people, and edits relating to the subject (living or recently deceased) of such biographical articles. Due to past disruption in this topic area, a more stringent set of rules called discretionary sanctions is in effect. Any administrator may impose sanctions on editors who do not strictly follow Wikipedia's policies, or the page-specific restrictions, when making edits related to the topic.
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Raising in relation to allegations at Talk:Jessica Yaniv genital waxing case and Talk:British_Columbia_Human_Rights_Tribunal#Proposed_merge_with_Jessica_Yaniv_genital_waxing_case --Fæ (talk) 23:47, 3 August 2019 (UTC)
Blocked?
[edit]@Bbb23: Hello Bbb23, if I understand correctly I have been blocked for supposedly being the same person as someone who was blocked in the past. Could you please explain how you reached that conclusion? Thanks. Some additional context: there has been some animosity towards me on part of a few other editors ever since I joined mere days ago to work on some WP:NPOV issues. Please see the talk page of Meghan Murphy in particular, where I have pointed out that this WP:BLP article makes claims which don't appear in any reliable sources. My honest thought is that some editors have a personal vendetta against feminists they see as "TERF" and by proxy anyone who wants to have them represented neutrally on Wikipedia. It's sad to see that administrators aren't noticing what's going on. But we can discuss that separately from my alleged "sockpuppet" status. Rhino (talk) 06:37, 5 August 2019 (UTC)