User talk:Rhettro76

Why do you continue to write myths about the 1988 AMC Eagles? Where is your proof the name was changed to "Eagle Station Wagon"? Where is your proof they were produced to eliminate excess stock? I have proof that the car was an AMC. Check the VIN. Yes Chrysler owned the AMC name and plant, but the car was still produced by the same AMC workers in the same AMC plant under the name American Motors.

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I maintain that fact because both Patrick Foster's "American Motors, the Last Independent" and Krause Publications' "Standard Catalog of American Cars 1976-1999" say so. If you'd bothered to read the "talk" section of the AMC Eagle article, you'd have learned that.

It may have had an AMC VIN. It may have been built in Brampton. It may have even retained the AMC tricolor badge. But the 1983 Renault Alliance had an AMC VIN, was built in Kenosha, and had the AMC tricolor badge, as well. But it was marketed as a Renault, NOT an AMC. So your logic, while good, isn't taking the nuances of marketing into account.

It was sold as an "Eagle station wagon" because Chrysler discontinued the AMC brand and folded the Eagle wagon into its new Eagle division for the 1988 model year. They did not continue the AMC brand after the buyout.

And, technically, after August 1987, the Brampton facility was a Chrysler plant, and the line workers who built the Eagle until December '87 were employed and paid by Chrysler, not AMC.

Both of the aforementioned sources state that the cars were better equipped than in 1987. Whether their features made a standard equipment list, or whether Chrysler just built equipped most of them with lots of optional equipment is not clear. But that's what the published sources say. Rhettro76 18:20, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

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OK I found the Discuss page for the AMC Eagle. I posted a response there.

OPTIONS

It is clear... The idea that the cars were more heavily optioned than previous years is explained by the increase in standard equipment. I have also asked every 88 owner I have ever come across on the internet and in person (probably about a dozen or so) about the options on their cars, and very few have more gizmos than normal. My car for instance has manual windows, manual seats, manual locks, no rear wiper, no fog lights, no frills, and it was made at the end of October 1987, just about 7 weeks before the last AMC. If they were throwing in parts to clear the bins, they certainly would have been throwing them in by then. Chrysler had no intent to give away any extra parts. When the plant in Kenosha closed, Iacocca had armed guards protecting the trash bins full of old AMC parts. He'd rather they be crushed than give them away to employees, enthusiasts, or dealers. --Nicholas McIntosh 05:20, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

RE: Pontiac Template

The page is on my watchlist, but I haven't been logged in until now.

The timelines are not supposed to go past 2008 now anyway, that is currently agreed upon by almost all editors. Also, it is my feeling that any new vehicle without an article does not belong in the timeline templates at all.

I'm going to notify the other editor of this, and if it continues I will give a formal vandalism warning. If the need arises I'll request that the template be protected. --Sable232 01:44, 5 October 2007 (UTC)