User talk:Rgr09/Sandbox/Subpage

Contested deletion

This page should not be speedy deleted as an unambiguous copyright infringement, because it is a stub, copied from the current Wikipedia page on Operation Mockingbird except for the lead paragraph which I just wrote myself. It therefore cannot be an unambiguous copyright infringement. Please leave a note on my page if you have further questions. Rgr09 (talk) 11:53, 9 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Contested deletion

This page should not be speedy deleted as an unambiguous copyright infringement. This information has been moved from Operation Mockingbird. This page and https://spartacus-educational.com/JFKintelligence.htm are both quoting the same reports. The information at https://www.quora.com/Is-the-CIA-still-to-this-day-infiltrating-the-media is copied from the Wikipedia page Operation Mockingbird. - Location (talk) 11:58, 9 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thoughts

@Rgr09: CIA and the press could be a HUGE project, but I think getting all this out of OM is the right idea. What do you think of the information cited to Bernstein's article? I know there are plenty of people who carelessly assert that he is writing about OM (e.g. [1]), but I think it should be moved, too. Given the paucity of reliable sources specifically mentioning OM - Hadley's book is the only one I have seen - I am starting to think OM should be a blurb in the general article you are proposing. It would be nice if all of the lazy journalists who write about this subject looked here first. - Location (talk) 12:24, 9 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Location: I agree it is a huge project, but the wiki motto seems to be start small and slowly bloat. It should attract considerable amounts of internet cruft that will be a lot of work to sift through and verify or dispose of, but getting rid of misinformation is always a good goal.

I think your division of categories was good: CIA/press surveillance, CIA/press cover, CIA/press propaganda. All could fit in here. The truly elastic one is propaganda. This is because propaganda is an elastic concept; most people think of propaganda only as a form of deception or "mind control" but of course it is a much more general concept than deception. And it is not science fiction/fantasy, thus differing from mind control. Rgr09 (talk) 13:16, 9 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Leave this here

I'm going to leave this here rather than try to do anything fancy. If it is deleted again, que sera sera guys. Rgr09 (talk) 13:16, 9 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]