User talk:Renaire

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Hello, Renaire, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions.

I noticed that one of the first articles you edited was Art Jakarta, which appears to be dealing with a topic with which you may have a conflict of interest. In other words, you may find it difficult to write about that topic in a neutral and objective way, because you are, work for, or represent, the subject of that article. Your recent contributions may have already been undone for this very reason.

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Oh! Yes I am actually work for Art Jakarta but I'm not specifically paid for editing or write anything about it on Wikipedia. However, the reason I started to get into it was to correct and add on more information about Art Jakarta that some other people has written on this platform.

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As I was on it I thought, might as well make an article about my fair director, Tom Tandio. I was trying to be neutral but seems like I referenced too much on interviews articles. I also noticed I had to disclose my relation with the topic but I failed to follow on how to do that. Renaire (talk) 12:25, 20 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Please see WP:PAID, but I will post instructions below on how to disclose. Note that paid editing is not limited to specific payment for edits, but includes any paid relationship with a topic, including employment. 331dot (talk) 14:01, 20 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Tom Tandio (November 20)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by Storchy were:

This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources.

This submission does not appear to be written in the formal tone expected of an encyclopedia article. Entries should be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources. Please rewrite your submission in a more encyclopedic format. Please make sure to avoid peacock terms that promote the subject.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Tom Tandio and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
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Storchy (talk) 09:18, 20 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Renaire! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Storchy (talk) 09:18, 20 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! Thank you for reviewing my article. It is the first ever article I'm making so it's pretty exciting and I'm keen to learn. I will surely visit the Teahouse to seek help sooner or later. See you! Renaire (talk) 12:12, 20 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

November 2022

Hello Renaire. The nature of your edits gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially serious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to black-hat search-engine optimization.

Paid advocates are very strongly discouraged from direct article editing, and should instead propose changes on the talk page of the article in question if an article exists. If the article does not exist, paid advocates are extremely strongly discouraged from attempting to write an article at all. At best, any proposed article creation should be submitted through the articles for creation process, rather than directly.

Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:Renaire. The template {{Paid}} can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form: {{paid|user=Renaire|employer=InsertName|client=InsertName}}. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, do not edit further until you answer this message. 331dot (talk) 14:02, 20 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, and thank you for your notice.

I do work for Art Jakarta and attempted to provide more information about it on an existing article, but I am not paid specifically for that. The article just intrigues me, since it doesn't covered as much information about Art Jakarta as I'd like it to and I thought I could just help myself. While I'm at it, I also tried to create a page for the Fair Director. I am in no way paid to write on both topics, and I did try to be neutral with my writing. Although unfortunately, I'm lacking experience and I suppose I got too carried away with more subjective references like articles from direct interviews.

Since I'm not paid to write on any of those articles, not necessarily a die-hard fan of neither of them either, and I believe I can write more appropriately in a neutral way as I "learn by doing" this, I'm not sure where my position is to correct this situation and whether I still have to disclose any "employer" or "client" since I have none, related to these writings.

Also the user page edit doesn't offer me the "visual edit" option and I feel somewhat overwhelmed and not sure about the correct way of typing things on it. Renaire (talk) 14:21, 20 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not familiar with the visual editor (personally I find it clunky) but I'll make a blank edit to your userpage, that may help. As I said above, "paid editing" is not limited to specific payments for edits or instructions to edit, it includes any paid relationship such as employment. If you find the coding too challenging, you may simply type out a statement declaring your employment. 331dot (talk) 14:26, 20 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I see. Thank you very much for helping me understand better.

For the Art Jakarta article, I will propose changes on the talk page instead of doing a direct editing. And for the article of the Fair Director, I think I came across an option to suggest/request for an article to be created by someone else? I will try that as well.

I was just a reader before, and recently made an account. Seeing how Wikipedia works first hand and get to know people like you has been pretty cool. Thank you again! Renaire (talk) 14:34, 20 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry I forgot to add:

Yes I will regularly (?) type out statements about myself including my employment in my user page. Thank you. Renaire (talk) 14:35, 20 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Concern regarding Draft:Tom Tandio

Hello, Renaire. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that Draft:Tom Tandio, a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Drafts that have not been edited for six months may be deleted, so if you wish to retain the page, please edit it again or request that it be moved to your userspace.

If the page has already been deleted, you can request it be undeleted so you can continue working on it.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 17:27, 2 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:Tom Tandio

Hello, Renaire. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or draft page you started, "Tom Tandio".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been nominated for deletion. If you plan on working on it further, or editing it to address the issues raised if it was declined, simply edit the submission and remove the {{db-afc}}, {{db-draft}}, or {{db-g13}} code.

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia! Hey man im josh (talk) 17:01, 20 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]