User talk:Reformado

Welcome!

Hello, Reformado, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

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Thanks! -- Reformado 21:44, 17 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I posted this for you over at talk:terrorism but it looks like Jay has already banned you, so I'll repost it here where I can get a response. The reason so many people get banned and this happens is because they log in. The secret to stopping the "stankers" is to get a revolving IP and edit without logging in. If you look at the history of the terrorism talk page, the only people that Jayjg banned, deleting their messages and called "sockpuppets" are those that created a static account. It isn't that I said anything different. The only reason he doesn't call me a sockpuppet is because he would have to ban every qwest customer from Colorado to Kentucky. --65.145.31.159 22:27, 17 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I pretty positively presumed a punishment for pointing out precedents and patterns of the most powerful person at Wikipedia plying his position to push his POV, but the point is that he didn't have to ban me. I didn't make him prove his corruption to my readers. He always had a choice. Jayjg didn't have to give me the perfect ending to my article, the thing that made it all fit together, but he did. 450,000 readers are finally going to know the truth about Wikipedia, not just that a very few unqualified people control the content, but that these faux-elitist few are so neurotic that everyone else sticks around just to see if they can master playing them. As I've shown here, it's very possible.

I welcome any rebuttals before we go to print. -- Reformado 23:39, 17 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I don't want to wreck your article, but Jay isn't the most powerful one here by a long shot. Jay gets his way often by scratching the backs of others who are in the position to scratch his in return. Anyone can do that, and they often do. The reason you notice Jay's edits so much is because, like you said, they "stank." Other players push their POV, but it isn't as noticeable because it has at least some semblance of compromise and mutual respect. Don't get me wrong, Jay exhibits a great deal of compromise and respect, but only toward people who have the power and inclination to blindly back his position. --63.232.167.117 23:58, 17 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]