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Hi, thanks for providing a source for some of that info. However, be aware that calling another editor's contribution "stupid" [1] is frowned upon, and could be considered a mild personal attack. Remember to assume that others are acting in good faith - as it happens, the edit in question was enforcing one of our most important content policies. Anyway, hope you enjoy editing Wikipedia, and if you have any questions or problems, feel free to ask! ╟─TreasuryTagcontribs─╢ 17:21, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Teddington Lock

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I was unable to identify a statement in the reference you gave that stated that the tide sometimes went above Teddington Lock. If you can point it out and it is a correct representation, then that would be useful information. The weirs at Teddington control the height of the water on the reach, so that it may appear tidal in the aftermath of heavy rain, but given that the Thames barrier prevents very high tides it would appear unlikely that the tide has started now to creep over the top. Regards Motmit (talk) 14:57, 3 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for that - unfortunately I get 404 errors now when I try to look at that document. Do we have any idea of how often a breach occurs. Perhaps a quick word with the lock-keeper 500yds away? It is the text about "tides penetrating" that probably needs to be changed - I have never been quite happy with it as a shorthand way of describing the significance of the lock. That is the important point here. An occasional breach is worth mentioning but not where it appears to undermine the basic premise about the tidal and non-tidal parts of the river. I will look at incorporating the information to reflect that. Dont forget to sign your posts with four tildas Regards Motmit (talk)
I am still on the case and have been trying to find more substantiation than that in the Tidal Thames Habitat Plan. The Regional Flood Risk Assessment, and the Richmond Strategic Flood Risk Assessments make no mention of tide breaching the lock, the concern being the narrowness of the channel downstream of the lock which traps the tide causing a problem with heavy fluvial flooding. Above the lock the only mention of flooding is fluvial. Given that, I am hesitant to trust an aside in brackets in a document about habitat. Regards Motmit (talk)
Thanks "Just go and have a look at what the river does at high spring tide coinciding with a high fluvial flow." High fluvial flow is the point here - ie your friend is acknowledging that the high spring tide itself does not go over the lock (because the Thames Barrier is there to stop that happening). A high fluvial flow goes down stream - a tide comes upstream. So what you need to look out for is the fluvial stream stopping in its tracks and being driven back up stream above Teddington Lock. Watch the logs and debris - I would be very surprised if you see them being carried upstream - and if you do you should let the Environment Agency know, as they look after both coastal flooding and fluvial flooding, and the Thames Barrier and Teddington Lock, and their reports of the 2003 Thames Ditton floods and the 2007 floods are based on the assumption that it was all pluvial and fluvial and nothing to do with the tide. Regards Motmit (talk) 21:34, 12 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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