User talk:Reece Llwyd

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IPA in Danish

The IPA for Adam Wilhelm Moltke looks wrong. The 'd' in Adam was most certainly NOT pronounced like that back then and is most certainly not pronounced like that today (you want [d̥] instead). The initial 'A' in Adam should be long (and it's transcribed as the wrong vowel as far as I can tell). The initial 'W' in Wilhelm does not seem all that approximant to me so I would use [v] (voiced labio-dental fricative) but maybe that's just me. The aspiration of the 't' in Moltke would be better marked with a small, raised 'h' (if anything) and not a small, raised 's'. This is different from a word such as 'tale' -- there aren't that many Danish words or names where a 't' is followed by a 'k'. And the '-ke' follows the 't', which makes it similar to a word-initial position so the 'k' should not be transcribed as [ɡ̊] but as [kʰ]: "/k~ɡ/ are distinguished only in word-initial position or at the beginning of a stressed syllable" (Danish phonology).

Are you sure you even want such a detailed description of the pronunciation with diacritics and everything in a broad description? -- Peter Lund (a Dane)/82.143.195.118 00:10, 17 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

IPA in Icelandic

Hello there

I have noticed that you have been adding IPA for the Icelandic pronunciation of several names. It is very useful to have the IPA and there are many articles which still need to have it added. However, I see from your user page that you do not speak Icelandic and therefore you must be very careful when you add the IPA as it is easy to make mistakes and Icelandic pronuciation can be tricky at times. It is probably best if you contact an Icelandic speaker before you add Icelandic IPA. Also be extremely careful not to reintroduce errors when somebody has corrected the IPA you have put up. Please don't hesitate to contact me if you have any questions. Regards, Stefán 20:17, 4 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. Indeed, I only know Icelandic in passing, but I can cope with phonetic transcriptions of quite a few languages, including the said Icelandic. What I am not confident in is the following letters - g or f. Also can one inform me of any grey areas of Icelandic. Speaking of which, I would love to learn the language one day! RJL 20:23, 4 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

g is probably the most difficult letter to get a grip of in Icelandic. Some time ago, there was a small discussion at Talk:Icelandic language on it but the only outcome was that it was complicated. There are some grey areas, such as whether final consonants are voiced or unvoiced. There are also a couple of complete surprices, for example the v that I inserted in the name Guðrún [1]. But even words which are not irregular need to be transcribed carefully to avoid mistakes. Stefán 21:34, 4 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

IPA in Norwegian

Hello. I noticed that you've changed my IPA for the pronunciation of Edvard Munch. I strongly believe the Wikipedia articles on Norwegians should use Norwegian pronunciation, so I reverted your anglicised version. Devanatha 21:22, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I saw the original on [www.omniglot.com], and so I based by IPA transcript on the Norwegian page. Is the Omniglot correct? RJL

The combination /rd/ (Old Norse /rð/) doesn't really exist in spoken Norwegian anymore. In most of Norway, it is reduced to [r]. In some south-eastern dialects it's pronounced as [ɽ]. In a few given names, like Bård, it can be pronounced [ɖ], though [r] is more common. The /rd/ in the name Edvard (and Sigvard, more commonly spelled Sigvart) is however pronounced [ʈ]. To be fair, it's true that [ˈɛdvɑɖ] earlier was a common pronounciation among people from the upper-class, whose spoken language to a varying degree was approximating Danish. But I don't think you'll meet any Norwegians saying [ˈɛdvɑɖ] anymore. As a curious fact, Edvard Munch himself insisted that people pronounced his last name as [mʉŋk], because [muŋk] is the Norwegian word for monk. Last year, members of his family threatened the Norwegian broadcasting company (NRK) with a boycott if they kept on saying [muŋk]. NRK gave in. Devanatha 14:55, 18 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Rendering of IPA

Greetings Reece Llwyd.

I noticed you're working on IPA material. You might want to try the templates {{IPA2| ... }} and {{IPA| ...}} which I believe give a somewhat prettier result. See e.g. my edits to Aberystwyth and Margrethe II of Denmark.

The "IPA2" version gives the "(IPA:[...])" look (although you'll have to add the "( )" by yourself. It looks to me like people normally use the IPA2 template rather than the IPA template, and the first one seems to be the easiest to use. Regarding some of the posts above, I believe that native pronounciations should be reflected on non-English material, but sometimes the "correct" pronounciation can be a matter of debate. When I'm in doubt, I often start by checking the same page in the corresponding Wikipedia or the German Wikipedia. The German Wikipedia normally has IPA renderings of good quality. Happy editing. Valentinian ^{(talk) / (contribs)} 15:43, 21 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your advice. I'll certainly remember it in the future. With regards, RJL 18:02, 21 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Category creation?

Can anyone advise me on how I can start a category because I intend to put the following articles in a category entitled Marcher Group

and I will create an article called Marcher Group to explain what the group is and other facts about it. Please can you help? RJL 11:39, 18 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've just realised there is a page called Marcher Radio Group - how can I rename this and I still want to make a category of it? RJL 11:44, 18 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Marcher Radio Group no longer exists as a company itself - it is merely a holding company nowadays. The company Marcher Radio Group is owned by GCap Media, but Classic Gold Marcher is officially owned by some company called UBC (and surprise surprise 20% by GCap), despite it sharing facilities with the rest of Marcher. I suppose you could create a category if you wanted though - but I wouldn't do a template as they already use the GCap template. Marbles333 19:12, 18 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, but can somebody explain how one creates a category? RJL 20:53, 18 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Reece, I just stumbled upon your user page and I was actually wondering the same thing about categories... I found the answer you're looking for at WP:CAT. On the other hand, please remember to fill edit summaries on all your edits; I was about to revert some changes you did to the IPA on Giada de Laurentiis but I'm not knowledgeable about it and it looks like you are, so it'll leave it for someone else to check... Cheers! -- dockingman^talk 18:19, 25 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Bondarchuk thingy

Why would you want to revert my nicely written IPA pronunciation of his full name? I mean, I made a point of being absolutely truthful to the status quo of general Russian phonology and I'm telling you, people that use these soft retroflex affricatives for "sh" is a minority in Russian. As to the IPA: [sʲɪ] part that you think you've corrected perfectly well, don't you think it's easier to pronounce it as IPA: [sʲi]? Now that I've thought about it it all seems nitpicking to me. But rest assured, the very speaker of the language in question disagrees with you in a friendly kinda way. --Dennis Valeev 20:54, 11 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

As a non-Russian speaker, if I wish to do pronunciations for names, I check the language's phonology and the rules of akanye etc., so to ensure reliability. This is possibly how Sergei Bondarchuk said his own name himself. If the pronunciation is a little ambigious, I check other pronunciations with that name, and match it, e.g. Mikhail ''Sergey''evich Gorbachyov, will be copied into the other article. I do hope my amendments are approximate. RJL 18:35, 12 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ummm... Okay? Didn't get a word you said, tho. --Dennis Valeev 20:39, 12 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Mark Tami

Hi RL, I removed your recent addition to the Mark Tami article. It seems to me that the information about his son's illness is quite personal, and not relevant to his political career. I'm sure your editing is in good faith, so I'm not trying to lecture here - just sharing my concerns. Cheers,--Bookandcoffee 21:31, 20 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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