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(Owner’s Message) Thank you for visiting my userpage! Feel free to message me about anything. Redrafting (talk) 15:07, 10 October 2021

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rudeness

I asked you politely but firmly to tell me which edit of mine you considered a test edit. I don't make test edits. As I said, at the time to you sent me the message, all the pages I had edited around that time were "current" i.e. I was the latest editor. In fact at that time every page I have touched today had that attribute. I'm perplexed which edit and by which criterion you decided it was a test edit, so that I can improve it. 85.67.32.244 (talk) 20:43, 11 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I can relate but... The edit you made on “Leader of the Labour Party (UK)” was not needed. The “elected in” text was moved when not necessary. Please think before acting. 23.28.64.124 (talk) 21:32, 11 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Finally (but you've been blocked... after several shots across the bows, to be clear I did not report you anywhere). You could actually have linked Leader of the Labour Party (UK) and also use logical quotes, but never mind: [1] is the edit in question, clearly with the edit summary "move "elected in" inside piped link so as not to suggest we're linking to April 2020". For an WP:ES, that is actually incredibly detailed compared to what most editrices write. It shows you what I changed and why I changed it.

As it stood, the WP:piped link displayed as "April 2020" but did not link to April 2020: that is a WP:SURPRISE. By moving it inside the quote, per WP:SPECIFICLINK as it happens, I could make the link more specific and the text clearer that it was the Labour Party Conference in April 2020, and not April 2020 generally. Pretty much all that you could have inferred frm my brief ES.

The S in ES stands for Summary, it is not intended to be verbatim explication of the whys and wherefores, and as I say mine are more detailed than most. What I guess you did was another personal attack on any edit I made, as you seem to have been following me around. Fortunately I presume you don't speak French and so are not qualified to do so at the article I have been translating. Reverting your crass undo. This could all have been avoided had you followed WP:BRD and told me which article in the first place. The normal way to do BRD is then to discuss it at the article's talk page, not call other editors "rude" on their talk page. I did not once swear at you or suggest you are a bad person in any way. I speak three or four languages daily and do not swear or be impolite in any of them, so I do take personally the suggestion that I am rude.

I hope to welcome you back. Please realise Wikipedia is not a free-for-all: anyone can edit it, and participate, but the underlying assumption is that people do so to be constructive. Being misguided or wrong is fine: show me a man who has never made a mistake, and I'll show you a liar. 85.67.32.244 (talk) 23:54, 13 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not remove messages from others' talk pages

Please do not remove messages from other users talk pages, as you did at mine. See WP:REMOVE. I could not find any reversion of any page I have ever edited in your entire edit history (i.e. since yesterday). I can only assume you sent me the original reversion notice by mistake: that's OK, but there's no need to remove the message. 85.67.32.244 (talk) 21:12, 11 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@ 85.67.32.244, Okay I got it. AndroidRedrafting (talk) 21:24, 11 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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It seems we got off on the wrong foot.

I disagree with you about IP editors, obviously: Wikipedia:IP editors are human too is an essay about it (I didn't write it). You should always Wikipedia:Assume good faith about any edit, and not bandy about words like "vandal", "vandalism", "rude" etc.

I can't expect you to be familiar with Wikipedia's policies or facilities, so perhaps I was not as welcoming as I should have been. Sorry about that. I'm not sure if you know, you can view any page's Help:Page history to see who contributed what and when. Similarly you can check any editor's Help:User contributions. These are good tools to help you decide an editor's intent. The incremental "redrafting" process we follow is Wikipedia:Bold, revert, discuss: an editor who wishes to make a change just does it, if another editrix disagrees she reverts it, then they or others discuss it. TThat was exactly the process I (and you) followed here.

I see you've spent the last couple of days making edits mostly at your user page and subpages. That's fine. Please enjoy your time helping to improve Wikipedia. 85.67.32.244 (talk) 04:02, 12 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Important!

I am leaving Wikipedia and this account will be abandoned. All further activity that’s related to this account will stop. I am creating a new account. Why? Because I have been receiving bad/inappropriate emails and I forgot my password. I am still logged on but I can’t do this forever. I am also changing emails in my new account. Please stop sending messages after 10Am Tue/October/2021, I won’t respond to them. I can tell you the name of my new account but I really don’t want to. I will be working anonymously with my IP address which is 23.28.64.124. I hope the best of my old account. Bye :) AndroidRedrafting (talk) 13:05, 12 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

So important you had to spam my talk page with it? You cost me hours of time I could have usefully spent trying to make the Wikipedia even better. 85.67.32.244 (talk) 03:47, 14 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]