User talk:Realist2/Archive 29

Re: Articles to create

Sounds like a good idea. Is "Dancing the Dream" the other book you refer to? Pyrrhus16 18:43, 23 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah that's the one. I actually don't own either of books, hard to believe lol. I'm really surprised that there aren't articles from his biography and "Dancing the Dream". Definately something to start off in a sandbox. — Realist² 18:45, 23 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it's certainly worth seeing what we can find on it. Pyrrhus16 18:50, 23 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've done a rough draft of Moon Walk here. I based the structuring of the article on President Obama's two books, Dreams from My Father and the Audacity of Hope. When you think it's ready we can create the article. Pyrrhus16 12:14, 24 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I'll take a look later today.

Just created the page for Moon Walk (autobiography) and submitted it at DYK. Pyrrhus16 17:20, 28 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Great! — Realist² 22:28, 28 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Barnstar

Oh, that's very generous of you, Realist. Thank you very much. --Efe (talk) 06:34, 24 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

BPI Certifications

Why i can't post BPI Certifications for Blood on the Dance Floor and other albums? They are official certifications. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Simone Jackson (talk • contribs) 19:45, 26 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

According to MJJCharts, these are sales of Motown Albums: http://www.mjjcharts.com/BestSellingMotown.htm Simone Jackson (talk) —Preceding undated comment was added at 19:55, 26 January 2009 (UTC).[reply]

Yes, but this info are relased from Motown in 1990, when it closed.Simone Jackson (talk) —Preceding undated comment was added at 20:03, 26 January 2009 (UTC).[reply]

All replies on your talk page. — Realist² 23:48, 26 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank You very much :-) Simone Jackson (talk) —Preceding undated comment was added at 23:09, 3 February 2009 (UTC).[reply]

Real, some sources are unsorced or fake sourced in Thriller 25 page. Simone Jackson (talk)

You're right, I do want to complain about you

Not really you in particular, but the way Wiki is run & the people who enforce it..the people like you. It's really fucking pathetic that Wikipedia is run this way. If Wikipedia ignores truths, and only sources "reliable" articles..then it can't be cited at all for being true. If an article basis their opinion off of something unreliable, does that make them unreliable as well? What if they're a reliable source. Or what if that reliable source is reporting on something completely untrue? Doesn't matter apparently, does it. Fuck that, and fuck the people who uphold this. So in short, fuck you. [: 71.59.189.46 (talk) 10:14, 24 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've left an NPA2 warning for the above. --Rodhull andemu 18:11, 24 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

See official policy at Wikipedia:Verifiability, "The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth." Whether something is true or not is irrelevant, it is whether it is verifiable by a reliable source. Useight (talk) 18:15, 24 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Cheers for the clean up. — Realist² 20:33, 24 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Define truth. What is real? Marlith (Talk) 04:11, 25 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Frustration

I guess I should explain to you what's happening. A couple of weeks ago, the uploader of this image finally got into contact with me about putting it on Wikipedia. She seemed enthusiastic about it, and she was asking how she would go about changing the license. So I gave her instructions on what I needed her to do, thinking it'd all be done with in a day or so (which is why I posted on your talk about it, I thought I'd be able to post the image here the next day.) Unfortunately, she's gone silent again. Which is very frustrating. --Closedmouth (talk) 03:51, 26 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Oh man, that's annoying. :-( — Realist² 04:23, 26 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

IS THIS 4 REAL?? — Realist² 04:29, 26 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

o_O Uh... --Closedmouth (talk) 04:46, 26 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I don't care if he's their god father, it's just...odd. Any who the hell is that random old guy. O.0 indeed. — Realist² 04:48, 26 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, wow, I didn't even notice that guy before. Now I'm even more creeped out. --Closedmouth (talk) 14:20, 26 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Make sure changes are cited

When you changed the real name for Lady GaGa, it was still referenced to [1]. That page shows her name as Stefani Joanne. If you're going to change the name, please make sure to also provide an updated source. Thank you. —C.Fred (talk) 00:25, 27 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I support the BBC source too. I must have got confused in all the name reverts. I've said before on the article talk page that we should use the BBC link. Thanks for fixing it. Again, I must have got lost in amongst all the reverting. — Realist² 00:28, 27 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Circus (song)

Here's a source that says top ten. [2] Thank you. Charmed36 (talk) 22:06, 27 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"On the Billboard Hot 100 to be released tomorrow, Spears scores her first top 10 debut as the set's title cut debuts at No. 3". Think really hard about it. — Realist² 22:09, 27 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You're not going by the source. Since you think you're right then go with your flow. Charmed36 (talk) 22:14, 27 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The source specifically says that it was not only her first top 10 debut hit, but also a top 3 debut. Quite clearly that means it was her first song to ever debut within the top 3, before "Circus" none of her songs had even managed to break the top ten. — Realist² 22:23, 27 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

GaGa

I do relaibly source things. I am NOT a disruption on wikipedia. I try to give people the right information. If you have a problem with my posts please specify what it is. Kind Regards. Dance-pop (talk) 23:06, 27 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm currently trying to sort the situation out on the talk page, please be patient. — Realist² 23:08, 27 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Then discuss it Realist. If you disagree with my post. Dance-pop 05:21, 2 February 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dance-pop (talk • contribs)

The point is we need sources, permanent sources. — R ² 05:24, 2 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Labels-I am sorry Realist, I have continuelly provided a source, for Cherrytree, IT MUST BE CHANGED, I have justified and disscussed it enough. Change it or I will. Source-http://www.cherrytreerecords.com/artists/ Def Jam- It is not signifcant enough, either take it out or specify that she has been dropped in the infobox New album(EP)-A more specfic example, please. Dance-pop (talk) 05:11, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Madonna

Hey i agree with you regarding the MAdonna article condition. It is really looking cluttered. I have a few tips for the article to be looking good again.

Remove all the audio samples. We have them in the respective single pages. No need.
- A few audio clicks (2 consideing the size of the article) is fine
Per section one pic is sufficient.
- Agree
No tour pic. That clutters the most.
- Tour pictures are fine, just not to many
The introduction part is too long and repeats info which are already in detail in the main article.
- The introduction is fine, read WP:LEAD
The Award list procesion and succession box, stands out because of its colour. Some soothing colour can be used.
- Hmm, not to bothered, that's up to you.

Let me know what you think. "Legolas" (talk) 10:47, 28 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. After i completed with the Madonna single pages, i will be rearranging and cleaning up the Madonna album pages (most of them are not according to WP:ALBUM, some of them are without references). Can I ask you to keep an eye on them? "Legolas" (talk) 12:13, 28 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I'm kind of overloaded as it is when it comes to watching over articles. — Realist² 22:27, 28 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Opinion?

What is your opinion on the notability of American Idol Hot 100 singles? It was just created on 20 January; quite frankly I was about to nominate it at WP:AfD but thought I'd get another opinion beforehand in case I was being a bit too critical. Seems too AI fangush-y to me. - eo (talk) 21:32, 28 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm, I didn't notice it was started in 2008 - a year ago - still not sure of its relevance. Thoughts? - eo (talk) 21:42, 28 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Replied at your page. — Realist² 22:23, 28 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I went ahead and nominated it - apparently it was nearly deleted before. Chime in if you feel like it, we'll see how this one goes, either way: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/American Idol Hot 100 singles (2nd nomination). Later - eo (talk) 23:44, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, I'll take a look at it later today, I have the boring task of formatting some references at the moment, before a DYK can go ahead. — Realist² 23:47, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Defeated Sanity

Well, if the reviewee wants to put it back up, without the on hold nonsense, then he can. I rm'd the on hold on Solange, since it's blatantly obvious that the person isn't going to review them and is just wasting time. Wizardman 06:03, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Was it a withdrew? If its the case, then we should proceed to Talk:Defeated Sanity/GA2. --Efe (talk) 06:04, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Looking at the history here and his edit history on the 27th, it looks like he quietly removed the nomination after getting no further feedback, I'm really surprised an established editor would discontinue his reviews and ignore reminders. I'll go and speak to the nominator, see what he want's to do. Hopefully we can fix this mess. — Realist² 06:08, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Since Wizard removed Durova's on hold note at GAN, I did this. --Efe (talk) 06:13, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'd say place it back where it was on GAN as well. (I'm heading to bed, i trust you guys to finish this mess up) Wizardman 06:14, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've left him a note, see what he say's, hopefully he will respond and we can add his article back at the top of the GAN list. — Realist² 06:17, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Talk:Defeated Sanity/GA1

Okay, I accept. Canniba loki 06:26, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I'll set it up for you, make sure you have the article on your watchlist, again, really sorry this happened to your nomination. — Realist² 06:27, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Done. --Efe (talk) 06:45, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, hopefully the reviews will come through soon. — Realist² 06:47, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

They're wasting our time. Hehe. --Efe (talk) 06:51, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've got my own article that's overdue a review. It's listed on the backlog template at the top of GAN, so it won't be long now. — Realist² 06:53, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

FAC, FLC, and GAN, even CAT:CSD, are backlogged. What is happening! --Efe (talk) 06:57, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is broke, didn't you know already ;/ — Realist² 06:59, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hope not. --Efe (talk) 07:04, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

CAT:CSD is backlogged?! I'll see what I can do. Useight (talk) 07:16, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I would help out...oh, wait, I can't. *Rolls eyes*. — Realist² 07:19, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If I could just ... the tools .... =) --Efe (talk) 07:24, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Haha, lol, I would rather not go through that flame pit again. Knock yourselves out. :D — Realist² 07:28, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Its the same thing, actually, with or without the tolls. --Efe (talk) 07:40, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Now, now, there's nothing to be afraid of unless you click the link. Useight (talk) 07:41, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for the delay, I need your help (of course); but first I will do some things. When everything is done, I send you a message. Canniba loki 07:22, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

That's cool. — R ² 07:43, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, you could take a look in this article? I have three problems to be resolved, taken from Talk:Defeated Sanity/GA1:

Regarding Prelude to the Tragedy – "Check your tense through this section, at points you are in the past tense and then you move to the present. Since the album came out in 2004 you should stay in the past tense."
Regarding Psalms of the Moribund – "There are some minor prose issues that are enough to warrant a prose review of the article. I fixed one small thing at the end of this subsection but you should go through it and make sure the prose is all clean."
Regarding overall review – Prose could use a little work.

Thank you for your attention.

Canniba loki 03:12, 31 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I did some cleaning, good luck. — R ² 07:49, 31 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

My Solange. Still have bits to work on. Grats. --Efe (talk) 06:02, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well good luck, Thriller – Live was just accepted for DYK. :) — R ² 06:07, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If U Seek Amy music video

Hi friend! Please don't remove again the section about the music video in the page. Teamworld.it it's a reliable source: it's have direct contats with record labels, you can see its forum section (http://forum.teamworld.it/index.php): all the forum there are official, Britney's forum too; the site also organizes Meet & Greet (http://www.teamworld.it/community/24/meetandgreet.aspx) with the artists (not with Britney because she is not coming to Italy in recent years); it also posts some exclusive news on its news section (one of which it's the news about the If U Seek Amy music video), logically are all reliable 'cause are the record labels that send them to the site. So don't remove again the sourced info about the music video. Sorry if I wrong to write something, but I don't speak English very well :) --Smanu (talk) 15:23, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

M.I.A.

Hi Realist,

Sorry for the annoying postings and re-postings to the M.I.A. page. I'm still new to Wikipedia editing and didn't even realize you had sent me those messages. Well, I've taken your advice and started working on the piece here. Would you please help me copy edit and incorporate into the article? Thank you.

I am a big M.I.A. and Diplo fan and was surprised to see this information was not on her page! Through their collaborations I found two of my now favorite artists and really feel that this deserves attention. Perhaps I've gone on too long? Anyway, as I see it, that record and their meeting made both their careers what they are today so it should be noted.

Thank you

(ColinStutz (talk) 22:32, 29 January 2009 (UTC)).[reply]

Sure, I will look at it as soon as I can, and will get back to you, best. — Realist² 22:34, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks ColinStutz (talk) 21:15, 2 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm still working at it, I'm just so busy at the moment, I have just about enough time to check over my own watchlist. Will get it done though. :D — R ² 05:25, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Great thanks, I'll keep checking in. I don't know if you're a M.I.A. fan but I can't believe this stuff isn't already up! I smell a conspiracy ;) ColinStutz (talk) 18:59, 4 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Great thanks, I'll keep checking in. I don't know if you're a M.I.A. fan but I can't believe this stuff isn't already up! I smell a conspiracy ;)

ColinStutz (talk) 18:58, 4 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I know I'm not cool enough to have any talk page stalkers but....

If anyone does happen to be looking at this notice, what do you think of my new, modest, signature. I like it ;) — R ² 07:45, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I like it. Nice and simple. Useight (talk) 08:04, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Nice and clean. Pedro : Chat 08:07, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thumbs up. --Efe (talk) 08:13, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Reminds me of R2-D2. –Juliancolton ^Tropical ^Cyclone 13:50, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hehe. — R ² 14:02, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Brexx

Best bet is to look at the sockpuppet reports for him and look over the editors' contributions. Anywhere But Home was actually pretty typical, and I should have recognized him earlier. Pretty much only edits articles about marginal pop-culture figures like the Ali Lohan, Lindsay Lohan, Jessica Simpson, Ashlee Simpson, etc. His punctuation sucks, and he always edits in those intense flurries of 20 edits in a row with no summaries. —Kww(talk) 15:04, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

American Idol Hot 100 singles

I have made some changes to American Idol Hot 100 singles and since you voted Delete in the AfD, I would appreciate you looking at the article and telling me what you think. Aspects (talk) 19:57, 30 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

How to do references

Please avoid using multiple copies of the same reference within an article, as you did on Dance-pop, as this clutters the reference list. Better is to create one reference on a given page and cite it as many times as is necessary. To do this, use the name attribute of the ref tag. The first time you cite a reference, define it as

<ref name="refname">Reference content</ref>

and then, when you want to cite the same reference later in the same article, just use

<ref name="refname"/>

where refname is a name of your choice. Good luck. -- Smjg (talk) 01:30, 31 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Lol, thanks. — R ² 06:26, 31 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

User:Tarysky

Hello Realist2. It might be possible to give Tarysky a final warning before a block, but his behavior is so strange it is hard to tell him what to stop doing. I think you have tried to leave him warnings before, and he named you in an RFCU. Do you feel like doing anything? He did reply to the ANI thread, but I consider his response unsatisfactory. EdJohnston (talk) 23:32, 31 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thriller Live

No problem. I just tweaked the hook a little since there'd been a complaint about it. I thought it was rather interesting that the guy has got into show business just through the creation of a fansite actually :) Gatoclass (talk) 05:48, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I know, now he's writing books and plays for heavens sake, lucky dude. No problem about the hook change, did notice. Best. — R ² 05:52, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

thank you

My RFA passed today at 150/48/6. I wanted to thank you for weighing in on the RFA--I will do everything I can to uphold the policies of this site, and try to make it a better place. All the comments, questions, and in particular the opposes I plan to work on and learn from, so that I can hopefully always do the right thing with the huge trust given to me. rootology (C)(T) 08:26, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

MSNBC?

Is MSNBC a reliable source? Because I've found this article stating that Thriller has sold 140 million copies. I'm assuming it's reliable because it's used as a source on the main Jackson article. Anyway, just wanted to double check before anything is added. Pyrrhus16 10:23, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it's a reputable source. BTW, now that your writing a lot more, you will probably want to get your first GA under your belt. You need to start formatting references fully. You should study the way in which I formatted the references on Thriller – Live. Give it a try, if you struggle, let me know. Best. — R ² 10:33, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Will do, cheers. Pyrrhus16 10:42, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've added all the info to List of Michael Jackson awards, feel free to tweak things. Also, do you think it would pass WP:FL? Pyrrhus16 11:04, 2 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Number-one albums of 1983 (U.S.)

Here. This is the year when Thriller stormed the charts. Wanna review it? Its on FLC Mr. Rober... =) --Efe (talk) 12:05, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Absolutely. — R ² 12:09, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe your also interested to review this. Its only one support away, I think. Hehe. --Efe (talk) 05:50, 2 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I will do, tonight, I have to prepare for a seminar now :( — R ² 05:55, 2 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Fine with me. Thanks in advance. --Efe (talk) 06:00, 2 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the support REDLIST. =) --Efe (talk) 06:21, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Oh don't you start too :D I'm not even reading that lady gaga talk page , it's too screamy. — R ² 06:22, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Correct. I am feeling Lady GaGa has surpassed the level of the most popular singer in this world. It seems like all eyes are on her page. I just hope that it will stop soon, so that we can start our GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA plans. --Efe (talk) 07:05, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, same here. — R ² 07:18, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Thriller – Live

On February 2, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Thriller – Live, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Gatoclass 01:48, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Grats. --Efe (talk) 03:13, 2 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah! — R ² 04:20, 2 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The 4th Kind

Hi

This film is in post-production, so can it not be speedily deleted rather than prodded? pablo_hablo. 18:19, 2 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have no idea, I considered speedy, but couldn't find a suitable criteria. — R ² 18:23, 2 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

RfA thanks

Thank you for the trust you placed in me by supporting my RfA (which passed and, apparently, I am now an admin!). I will do my best to continue to act in a way that is consistent with the policies of wikipedia as well with our common desire to build and perfect this repository of human knowledge; and can only hope that you never feel that your trust was misplaced. Thanks again! --Regent's Park (Rose Garden) 22:57, 2 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion at WikiProject Record Charts

Please see this discussion and provide your opinion on proposed page moves. Thanks, Dabomb87 (talk) 01:27, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

They Don't Care About Us

It's on hold. YellowMonkey (click here to vote for world cycling's #1 model!) 03:15, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. — R ² 05:22, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Correction my dear. I'm not good in grammar. Otherwise, I should have managed Nights in Rodanthe to GA status. Its my first "WikiSetback" ever. Hehe. Anyway, going back to the review, I have fixed my own concern. It should not prevent the smooth flow of the process. Good luck. --Efe (talk) 07:03, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

A set back - :( — R ² 07:19, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

GaGa fan

Uber GaGa fan User:Dance-pop is continuously reverting changes to the GaGa articles without any edit summaries and is hell-bent on keeping his/her edits only. I gave the user warning, but as usual started abuse. Do you think its time to report it? Because i have seen that in the talk pages also this user never assumes good faith and thinks his/her point is the valid one. "Legolas" (talk) 04:42, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

P.S.: Whats the deal with Redlist? Are you changing your name? "Legolas" (talk) 05:15, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Do not listen to Legalos. I always assume good faith at all times and if you check both our user talks you will see I was right.Kind regards. Dance-pop (talk) 05:20, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'll take a look, I will say, Dance-Pop, you have been a little aggressive from the outset. You need to slow down, Wikipedia is not a race. — R ² 05:22, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

God! Has the user started stalking me now? "Legolas" (talk) 05:46, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've warned him about his civility, hopefully he will calm down. — R ² 06:19, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm on the edit summaries. He should provide so that this mess will be cleaned up. =) --Efe (talk) 06:23, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hope that he/she will tone down. Anyways thanks for all your help. Cheers! "Legolas" (talk) 12:54, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ok. People I may be actind a little, maybe a tiny bit agressive (well I was agresive but...). I am not stalking you Legalos, when I came to Realists user talk to give a few posts, I saw your post (which was kinda sneaky). I am usally civil. I just try to give people the right info. at all times, and that means in needs to be done quickly. I hope you all understand. Dance-pop (talk) 03:59, 4 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]