User talk:Rambamfan

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Links to Tanakh Profiles site

I am afraid I had to revert your edits to article Aaron in the See also section. Your entry was a hyper link outside of Wikipedia. All other entries on the page were to Wikipedia articles. But more importantly, your link was to a page that was not written in English. It is a mix of Hebrew and English that can not be understood at all without an understanding of Hebrew. As such it does not belong in the Engish section of Wikipedia. Thank you for your interest in Wikipedia and I hope that this revert does not scare you away.

Sample from linked page:

אַהֲרֹן (שמות-במדבר, דברי הימים א ה:כט)

First כהן גדול of Israel, older brother of משה , son of עמרם and יוכבד . אהרן marries אלישבע בת נחשון and has four sons: נדב , אביהוא , אלעזר , איתמר . God sends אהרן to meet משה on the latter's journey to Egypt and serves as משה 's spokesman when dealing with פרעה at the beginning of ספר שמות . אהרן is 83 years old when he and his brother appeal to פרעה to let the Israelites leave. When God sends plagues to the land of Egypt,

Dbiel ^(Talk) 09:20, 29 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your reply on my talk page.

After reverting the referenced edit I noticed that you had edited two other pages in a similar format.

The reverted edit was in the See also section.

Your edit of Books of Kings was in the more appropriate External links section.

Instead of reverting your edit to Nevi'im I decided to look for the advise of someone with a better knowledge of Hebrew. Please review his response on my talk page as he give an example of how to make the entry more exceptable. The key points being placing it in the External Link section rather than the See also section; as well as including the actual link as a reference and adding a note as to the fact the the article in a mixture of Hebrew/English. If you take those steps there should be no problem with including it.

As to your comment "firstly, English Wikipedia articles themselves occasionally do contain words in other languages - Aaron itself has two that I saw." That is a bad example as it actually support the deletion of your edit. In Aaron as will other entries in Wikipedia English edition, the use of a foreign language is in addition to the Engish. If the the foreign words were deleted the article would still be readable. They are use to add addition meaning or used as a reference. The article you have linked to is unreadable in English as ALL names are in Hebrew which results in the following:

First X of Israel, older brother of X , son of X and X. X marries X and has four sons: X, X, X, X. God sends X to meet X on the latter's journey to Egypt and serves as X's spokesman when dealing with X at the beginning of X.

Dbiel ^(Talk) 15:33, 1 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

copied reply posted on my talk page

== Response to Revert Response==

Thank you for responding, and for being patient with me - I'm new to editing on Wikipedia. Your point about the inclusion of Hebrew on the Aaron entry is well taken. I understand the distinction of putting a link in the External Link section rather than the See also section, but don't know what to do if there is no "External Link Section". As well, I'm not sure what you mean about putting the link as "reference." 89.139.230.25 19:06, 1 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I am fairly new myself. You will probably find that you will learn best by trying and learning from your mistakes. As to the question as to what to do if here is not "External Link Section" the simple answer is to make one. I will go ahead and put back your edit to Aaron and you can use that as an example of how to fix the other two entries. You may find the following two articles helpful: Wikipedia:Citing sources and Wikipedia:Footnotes

I have found the following useful as a guide to creating footnotes: (It was easier to include it as a separate section)

One additoinal point, you will notice that your signature as posted on my talk page is an IP address instead of your user name. This was due to the fact that you did not log in prior to posting the reply. It is not required, but logging in does have several benefits. You will find that if you are using the same computer to access Wikipedia, the cookies will automaticly log you in (most of the time)Just look for your user name at the top of the page, if it is there, then you are logged in. Dbiel ^(Talk) 07:27, 2 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I accept that the links you are adding could be of value to people who can read Hebrew. Please would you consider adding "See also translations of names" at the end of the line, every time you provide a link? This could make the resource slightly more usable for people who can't. Please see Zechariah (biblical) for an example. - Fayenatic london (talk) 22:11, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

As you don't seem to be editing any more, I've done them for you. If you do return and add links on more pages, please provide these extra links for translation (or rather, transliteration). It will of course be a lot easier if you do them as you go along. - Fayenatic london (talk) 19:01, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

References - footnotes

Footnotes:

Place a <ref> ... </ref> where you want a footnote reference number to appear in an article—type the text of the note between the ref tags.
Place the <references/> tag in a "Notes" or "References" section near the end of the article—the list of notes will be generated here.

To use the same footnote more than once:

The first time you use the reference, put <ref name="blah"> ... </ref>

Later, you can just put <ref name="blah" />

I hope that you find the preceeding helpful. Dbiel ^(Talk) 07:27, 2 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]