User talk:Raftermast

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Vandalism?????

Your edit summary diff rv vandalism is clearly out in left field. The edits you removed may be considered unacceptable as either original research or as drawing conclusions from the posted material, or possibly as WP:NPOV; but it is clearly NOT vandalism. Please be more careful with your usage of the edit summary. Thank you Dbiel ^(Talk) 01:52, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

To expand on this entry, your warning posted to User talk:128.30.29.236 diff including second edit to add spacing was out of line on several points:

• There is no reason to post any warning related to a post made over two years ago.
• You failed to sign your post
• A level 3 warning for this type of edit is excessive, a level 1 warning is far more appropriate. I have removed the warnings you posted a added back a level 1 warning.

Dbiel ^(Talk) 02:23, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Nope. Looking back at your edits, it's pretty clear it's an attempt at misinformation/"sneaky" vandalism; the last edit you made on the page makes it pretty obvious what you were trying to do.

Re the edit made by 128.30.29.236 - you're certainly right there though; I didn't spot the date this IP address made the edit in question, so would agree the warning was waaaaaaaaay to late to be of any use! wrt not signing, that's my mistake; I thought the template did this automatically. IMHO, it's pretty odd that it doesn't... Raftermast (talk) 19:32, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

I guess you miss understood my post somewhat. First, the edits were not mine. It is a bit hard to tell if it was sneaky vandalism or a good faith edit in left field; but that really does not matter. The key point here is that the series of 5 edits in this single article were the only recent edits by this IP address and no warning was posted until 2 hours after the last edit, and you had to create the talk page to post the warning; a level one warning should have been used, not a level 3 warning. Don't forget WP:NOBITE Dbiel ^(Talk) 21:05, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Granted you are also a new user, but we generally treat those who post warnings as being a bit more experienced. I regret if the tone of my original post was a bit too harsh. Looking forward to you being a valuable contributor to Wikipedia. Dbiel ^(Talk) 21:15, 23 January 2009 (UTC)