User talk:RYNADO
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George Yeomans Pocock
[edit]Could you please revert your recent move from George Yeoman Pocock back to George Yeomans Pocock? The "Yeomans" spelling is correct, as discussed in Talk:George_Yeoman_Pocock#Middle_name_of_subject and shown in his birth certificate. I wish you had first discussed on the talk page before making this move. Phlar (talk) 20:57, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- Just after I finished altering the article, I took a look at the talk page and came to understand the nature of the misspelling. I think the way I have altered it now is better fitting for Wikipedia standards. Pocock published under the spelling "Yeoman," and he is most commonly recognized by that spelling, therefore the title of the article should read "Yeoman." Being it that his legal name is of an altered spelling, it should introduce the text of the article in bold that way and I have added a reference note regarding the discussion in the talk page. Do you think this is suitable? RYNADO (talk) 02:07, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- No, it doesn’t seem suitable to me. It’s inconsistent, and we don’t normally tell readers to "see the talk page" for more information. Why do you feel the title of the article shouldn't use the spelling of his actual name? Phlar (talk) 03:35, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- The name under which he published did not use the "S" in his middle name, and that's the same spelling that he's known for. Think of it like this: the article for Tom Cruise is titled "Tom Cruise" but the very first sentence of the article opens with his full legal name in bold, "Thomas Cruise Mapother IV." Pretty much every article on an individual person opens with their full legal name, whether or not it is remotely similar to the title of the article. I changed Pocock's in the first place because I figured someone had it wrong, as I've seen it published in several places as "Yeoman" not "Yeomans." I totally agree now that his legal name has the "S," and the article should preserve that, and I think it is most reasonably preserved in a way similar to how it currently looks. If you feel there's a better way to phrase that reference, you should totally rephrase it, but the very fact that his relative wrote in the Talk page also seems to me noteworthy for the average reader. RYNADO (talk) 04:02, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- I've changed the spelling in the infobox to match the bolded spelling in the lead ('Yeomans'). I also added a new section Middle Name and submitted a move request. Please feel free to discuss on the talk page. Phlar (talk) 21:21, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- The name under which he published did not use the "S" in his middle name, and that's the same spelling that he's known for. Think of it like this: the article for Tom Cruise is titled "Tom Cruise" but the very first sentence of the article opens with his full legal name in bold, "Thomas Cruise Mapother IV." Pretty much every article on an individual person opens with their full legal name, whether or not it is remotely similar to the title of the article. I changed Pocock's in the first place because I figured someone had it wrong, as I've seen it published in several places as "Yeoman" not "Yeomans." I totally agree now that his legal name has the "S," and the article should preserve that, and I think it is most reasonably preserved in a way similar to how it currently looks. If you feel there's a better way to phrase that reference, you should totally rephrase it, but the very fact that his relative wrote in the Talk page also seems to me noteworthy for the average reader. RYNADO (talk) 04:02, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- No, it doesn’t seem suitable to me. It’s inconsistent, and we don’t normally tell readers to "see the talk page" for more information. Why do you feel the title of the article shouldn't use the spelling of his actual name? Phlar (talk) 03:35, 15 September 2024 (UTC)