User talk:RLEMIT

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Hello, RLEMIT, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions.

I noticed that one of the first articles you edited appears to be dealing with a topic with which you may have a conflict of interest. In other words, you may find it difficult to write about that topic in a neutral and objective way, because you are, work for, or represent, the subject of that article. Your recent contributions may have already been undone for this very reason.

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November 2024

Your account has been indefinitely blocked from editing because it has been used for advertising or promotion, which is contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia. Also, your username gives the impression that the account represents a business, organisation, group, or website, which is against the username policy.

If you intend to make useful contributions instead of promoting your business or organization, you may request unblock and a username change. In your reasons, you must follow all these steps:

Disclose any compensation you may receive for your contributions in accordance with the paid-contribution disclosure requirement; and
Convince us that you understand the reason for your block and that you will not repeat the kind of edits for which you were blocked; and
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Provide a new username.

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This user's request to be unblocked to request a change in username has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without a good reason (see the blocking policy). Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

RLEMIT (block log • active blocks • global blocks • autoblocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Requested username:

sampsonmather (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Request reason:

I am the media design and web content manager for the Research Laboratory of Elctronics at MIT. I believe my predecessor and lab director at the time may have created the original account and written the content for the wikipedia page that was deleted. I understand that this may have been promotional of the organization. My intended contribution is to revise the old content to be objective and factual and to not skew any information to be promotional. My intention is to provide a brief history of the lab with relation to the Radiation Lab of World War II and its continuation on into the Research Laboratory of Electronics' present day research. The intended username is sampsonmather

Decline reason:

Accounts may not be shared, they are strictly single person use only; since someone else created this account and you began using it, this account cannot be unblocked and it's the end of the line. Even leaving that aside, Wikipedia is not a place for organizations to tell about themselves. Wikipedia articles are typically written by independent editors wholly unconnected with the topic, and summarize what independent reliable sources choose on their own to say about the topic, not what a topic says about itself, showing how it is notable as Wikipedia uses the word. Please see conflict of interest and paid editing(which includes employment). As I said, this is the end of the line for this account. We can talk about altering the block to permit you to create an indivdual account for yourself, but we won't unblock you to, in the short term, edit about your organization, so we will need to know what you will edit about instead. 331dot (talk) 16:50, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, no problem with that, end of line for the account.

What would you recommend as the best course of action for getting a copy of and understanding why the page "Research Laboratory of Electronics at MIT" was deleted.

I would first like to understand what account published the page, and what about the content was considered promotional. It is difficult for me to understand the full scope of the violation without being able to review the deleted content. RLEMIT (talk) 17:49, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I do want to make sure I am understanding the rules so I dont keep submitting requests that are automatically declined. RLEMIT (talk) 17:49, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I received your email, I don't generally discuss Wikipedia matters via email. The article at issue was speedy deleted as unambiguous promotion. In looking at it(I can view deleted articles as an admin) I agree, as it reads like it was from an MIT website. It was created in 2006(the very early days when many current policies did not exist). I'm not yet comfortable sharing the accounts that edited it.

You can ask that the text be emailed to you, but you need to get unblocked first(by which I mean you need to make another unblock request here and ask to be permitted to create an account for yourself) 331dot (talk) 19:35, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Also, how can authors and editors be "wholly unconnected with the topic"?

Wouldnt anyone contributing in any editing capacity be connected to the topic? RLEMIT (talk) 19:33, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not necessarily, editors typically choose topics that they take note of in independent sources to write about. Joe Biden and his staff did not write the article about him. 331dot (talk) 19:37, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, I guess the issue I am running into with authorship with regard to being an organization within a larger organization (Massachusetts Institute of Technology) is that most MIT affiliated Wikipedia pages appear to have been authored and edited by people with affiliation to the DLCs (departments/labs/centers). Example: MIT Computer Science and Artificial Intelligence Laboratory is one of our sister labs.

My question is, where is the line drawn for affiliation vs. independence? RLEMIT (talk) 19:49, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It is not absolutely forbidden for someone with a conflict of interest to contribute in the subject of their COI, but they must do so indirectly and be open about it. This may be how the other articles you refer to were written, or they may have been written inappropriately and just not addressed yet. I can't say without examining them. 331dot (talk) 23:54, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]