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"Triple Jeopardy!" listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect Triple Jeopardy! and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 October 25#Triple Jeopardy! until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she|they|xe) 02:25, 25 October 2022 (UTC)

Category:Parishes of Europe / America

Hi, You have closed this proposal. Does the decision preclude me from creating an new category call Category:Civil parishes in Europe? Laurel Lodged (talk) 10:48, 28 October 2022 (UTC)

@Laurel Lodged, wouldn't that fall under WP:SHAREDNAME? — Qwerfjkltalk 10:52, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
Not if I also created Category:Church parishes in Europe. Both could then have the same parent ( Category:Parishes of Europe ) which would become a container category with only two members. Laurel Lodged (talk) 10:57, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
@Laurel Lodged, I would suggest having another CfD discussion about it, given the previous discussion, which had mixed views. — Qwerfjkltalk 11:01, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
OK. This might be a first at WP:CFD - "permisson to create a new category please". BTW, love your personal categories. Laurel Lodged (talk) 11:03, 28 October 2022 (UTC)

The Signpost: 31 October 2022

CFD categories

Hello, Qwerfjkl,

I kept seeing Category:17th-century British literature and Category:Gladiators (UK TV series) on the nightly Empty Categories list and I finally looked at them again tonight. I found you had closed the CFDs that involved these categories yesterday. Is there a reason that you didn't tag these categories for deletion after you closed the CFDs? They were already emptied so they didn't require any removal of pages/categories by a bot.

You and Marco use to do this when you were done closing CFDs but for some reason, over the past month or so, I never see categories deleted through CFDs come up as uncontroversial deletions, CSD G6, any more. Was there some problem with how you were handling these closures? Because I thought that it was a very efficient system. Liz Read! Talk! 01:17, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

Hi Liz, I've switched to listing these at Wikipedia talk:Categories for discussion/Working now, regardless of how much work needs to be done, so that they can be processed by the WP:CFD/W bot. They tend to get added to the bot page by an admin within a week.
It looks like I forgot to list Category:17th-century British literature, however.
I used to manually carry out the outcome of every CfD discussion, but it took far too much time, and there are still a severe shortage of closers at CfD. — Qwerfjkltalk 07:30, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

Implementation of rename for Category:Volcanoes of the New Zealand seabed

Hi. The CFD for Category:Volcanoes of the New Zealand seabed was closed as rename several days ago. I'm not sure of the process from here. How/when does it get implemented? Is it in progress, or is there a step that has been delayed, or is someone else responsible? Sorry for not being familiar with the process. Thanks. Nurg (talk) 04:17, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

@Nurg, I've listed it at Wikipedia talk:Categories for discussion/Working. An admin will move it to Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Working sometime. — Qwerfjkltalk 07:15, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
Thanks. Nurg (talk) 11:08, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

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Renaming discussion was shallow to coin a pun

Please see Category talk:Seamounts of New Zealand ChaseKiwi (talk) 21:40, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

Rag Shop

Is Rag Shop notable enough to be in the list of defunct retailers of the United States? 2601:584:101:80B0:D7A:766A:BB3E:869E (talk) 18:37, 5 November 2022 (UTC)

2601:584:101:80B0:D7A:766A:BB3E:869E, based on Talk:List of defunct retailers of the United States § Inclusion criteria, if there are reliable sources noting it, it can stay; otherwise, you can be bold and remove it. — Qwerfjkltalk 22:15, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
Based on the fact that there's no article for it, it can probably go, as per the discussion. — Qwerfjkltalk 22:18, 5 November 2022 (UTC)

Rathfelder

As Bigwig7 turns out to be Rathfelder, would this affect your closure of August_15#Category:Judges_educated_at_Eton_College? Oculi (talk) 01:47, 6 November 2022 (UTC)

@Oculi, not really. — Qwerfjkltalk 07:33, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
Fair enough; just asking. Oculi (talk) 11:18, 6 November 2022 (UTC)

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Question from Jasmeet2001 (11:15, 9 November 2022)

How can i get my profile url? --Jasmeet2001 (talk) 11:15, 9 November 2022 (UTC)

@Jasmeet2001, please can you clarify what you're trying to do. What is your 'profile'? — Qwerfjkltalk 17:05, 9 November 2022 (UTC)

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Hello, Qwerfjkl,

This empty category is tagged with a CFD tag that makes it appear to be part of a CFD discussion you closed but I don't see this category in the bundled list. Do you have any ideas of what's going on here? Thanks. Liz Read! Talk! 01:12, 13 November 2022 (UTC)

Hi Liz, looks like Hemiauchenia didn't add this to the list after tagging it for discussion, presumably by mistake. I assume it only contained subcats that were deleted due to that discussion, so you can probably just delete it. — Qwerfjkltalk 01:18, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
Yeah, this an oversight on my part. Apologies. Hemiauchenia (talk) 01:28, 13 November 2022 (UTC)

RE ULSS

Yes, it's not unambiguous as a reference to the unduly lenient sentence scheme. But it's also presently a redlink, so it's not helping anyone resolve what it means in any context at all. If someone comes along and writes articles for those other uses (or expands articles, or realises that existing articles already cover those other uses, etc), they can turn the redirect into a disambig as and when; in the meantime, the redirect would be serving a useful purpose to readers. Wikipedia's malleable and we don't need to get it absolutely perfect the first time; we can fix things up and improve them, and make incremental changes that are better than nothing. So, will you please create the redirect, as suggested, so that readers can get some value, even if it's not the absolutely platonic perfect result that an encyclopaedia with infinite resources would have? 80.7.186.76 (talk) 15:34, 13 November 2022 (UTC)

80.7.186.76, first of all, thanks a lot for your redirect work.
However, per WP:REDLINK, it's better to keep ULSS as a redlink. Readers can use the search bar for this. — Qwerfjkltalk 16:03, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
Search would be useless in this case, as the acronym isn't used in the article (I wrote it talking about 'the scheme'). I also don't see where WP:REDLINK covers this situation - could you please quote the part that you find relevant? 80.7.186.76 (talk) 16:49, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
80.7.186.76, the solution is then to add the acronym to that article.
It seems I was mistaken about REDLINK; ignore that. — Qwerfjkltalk 16:58, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
Thank you. I'm not going to add it to the article because there's nothing it adds to the article qua article, and adding it just so that it shows up when people try looking for 'ULSS' is very silly when there's the option of just creating a redirect. But a disambig is actually natural here because the extant on-wiki targets are unduly lenient sentence scheme, Rzhevka Airport and Ultra-large-scale systems and a cross-wiki link to wikt:ULSS; as you noted originally, it's an ambiguous initialism. Would you create that, please? As a lowly IP, I can't do it myself. 80.7.186.76 (talk) 17:11, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
80.7.186.76, If you create a draft I can move it to mainspace for you. — Qwerfjkltalk 18:32, 13 November 2022 (UTC)

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