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Grammar corrections

The English Wikipedia uses a combination of American and International English, generally erring to the local standard if the topic has strong ties:

"An article on a topic that has strong ties to a particular English-speaking nation should use the English of that nation" (according to the Wikipedia Manual of Style)

The San Francisco Giants are, most certainly, an American topic. Therefore, the article should use the American subject/verb agreement standard, which is that a team is singular.

Even the seemingly plural "Giants" at the end of the team's proper name doesn't change this usage:

"Some collective nouns—such as team (and proper names of them), army, company, crowd, fleet, government, majority, mess, number, pack, and party—may refer either to a single entity or to the members that compose it. [...] In North American English, these words (and the United States, for historical reasons) are almost invariably treated as singular; the major exception is when sports teams are referred to by nicknames that are plural nouns, when plural verbs are commonly used to match." (also from the Wikipedia Manual of Style)

"The San Francisco Giants" is not a team nickname. It would be okay to consider "The Giants" plural because it's a nickname. 108.56.248.52 (talk) 06:28, 29 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Before I made that change, I looked at every other MLB team's Wikipedia page and every single one referred to it as "The Tampa Bay Rays are...", "The Los Angeles Dodgers are...", etc. Thus, it makes sense for it to be "The San Francisco Giants are", rather than "The San Francisco Giants is". Also, in my opinion, it does indeed sound better, and more proper. It seems that others agree, as your edit changing it to "is" has been reverted by another user. Qwerasdfzxcv1234 (talk) 22:06, 29 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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