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The Article Otaibah

Dear Qhtni119,

There are some indisputable facts in my possession, which I will share with you since you have such a great interest in the heritage of the inhabitants of Arabia.

True, some tribes do consist of diverse people with different ancestry; however, this is not always the situation. There are a few tribes that have prevented the inclusion of any person who is not of the same blood line. Of course this comes with even fewer exceptions.

In the case of Otaibah, I only know of one which is not of the same ancestor, and they are called Al Khamash family. I will do my research in this regard to find if there are any others.

All of Qays Aylan, Hawazin, and Otaibah, share the fact that the basis of each grouping is, was, and always has been a shared ancestor.

An example of confederation that consists of a mix of people from various backgrounds would be something like the confederate Socio-Religious movement called Ikhwan of the early 20th century.

I have references from the Encyclopedia of Islam stating: 1. That tribes like Otaibh have replaced Hawazin over the years. 2. That Otaibah is "a great and powerful Bedouin tribe of Central Arabia" 3. That Otaibah "trace their genealogy back to Mudar and claim to belong to the Ḳays ʿAylān"

and an Arabic book titled 'North of Hejaz' stating: 1. That Otaibah is one tribe, one blood line, with an exception of one or two families.(I will do my research to find which) 2. That Otaibah is in fact from Hawazin.

You have brought to the table significantly important information that really does help to improve this article and its references. During your reviews, I have noticed more than one good point. I do appreciate all your efforts in making our collective work more reliable and solid.

I will add the information with references when I am ready, then you can take a look at it, and tell me what you think. Thanks Again Dawihq (talk) 15:39, 11 December 2017 (AST)

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