User talk:Punknyc

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Hi, please read WP:3RR Rich Farmbrough, 21:48 3 October 2006 (GMT).

re: edits

Hi Punknyc,

I reverted recent edits and want to explain why.

This is the big artcle for ALL of hardcore punk. ISM, Big Apple, Bob Sallese, etc., are important and noteworthy, but should be detailed more fully in the NY Hardcore article and individual articles for the following reasons:

1) Each major city in North America had similar stories. Privileging NY to that extent is tempting for me, since my own background is with the NY hardcore scene, but it is not historically defensible, since DC, LA, Vancouver, etc. had just as much to do with 'hardcore' as NY did.

2) Articles on ISM, Butch Lust, Bob Sallese, and others need to be written. These can be (and are) linked from the main article. People will read them.

I apologize for any positive changes reverted. The way it works is that several (= many) people put their expertise into doing the best neutral article possible. It's not about mentioning achievements, although that's okay if they're in context. I haven't mentioned my own bands, production gigs, etc. The project really isn't about that. Auto movil 06:40, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Nonono, I'm going to be very clear here. The article, 'Hardcore Punk' is a survey article about the entire genre. It's ALREADY beyond the recommended length for Wikipedia articles. It simply cannot include everything that's important or relevant. There simply is not space.

But the way it works is that there are OTHER articles devoted to individual hardcore scenes, bands, and people. Each of these can be just as long and detailed. Also, if one doesn't exist yet, it can be created.

When you add stuff into the broad, comprehensive 'Hardcore Punk' article, it's competing with gigantic amounts of other relevant information. Whereas, adding brief factual information into the article on NY Hardcore, or really specific and detailed information into the articles on ISM, Bob Sallese, WLIR, etc., is absolutely wonderful.

Auto movil 18:52, 5 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

CMJ reports on January 16, 1984 that Ism's "A Diet For The Worms" debuted at #65 on, and I quote, "Progressive Radio Top 100 Chart information is combined airplay of reporting commercial & college/non-commercial radio stations" On June 6th, 1983, CMJ's "New Music Composite (Combined radio, club and retail reports)", had Ism with the #6 single, "I Think I Love You" listed below Style Council, Pete Shelly, New Order, Kinks and Devo & above, Wide Boy Awake, David Bowie, A Flock of Seagulls, Blancmange, Alan Vega, The Cure, Elton John, Kajagoogoo and Shriekbak at #15. Not a bad moment in the history of hardcore...I must say... User:PUNKNYC