User talk:Puipuianunuibuangpuia1

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Doug first of all appreciate your works and thanks but i wanna inform i myself am from a mizo kuki chin people i dont care what online sources says .i know my history i know my roots this kuki is not what we are .u know whites are called angreji in hindi .now what if online sources agrees and use this instead of the word brits or whites Surely surely surly someone will surely get offended .now in this case i got offended so i changed it when i saw it . No one had even wikipedia has the right to change someones history my history wanna know bout mizo people ask themselves thats the best or use some sources approved by themselves i m a mizo not kuki not KUKI or else dont spread misinformation without the awareness of m Puipuianunuibuangpuia1 (talk) 17:56, 17 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The mizo people if you wanna know then ask me . anyway thanks for everything hope u see this and understand facts (one thing the identity northeastern parts of india is a very sensitive issue so be careful) God bless ya Puipuianunuibuangpuia1 (talk) 18:00, 17 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Besides being unsourced, your edits are making a mess

Do you really think it is sensible to actually change the titles of our sources? And some of your edits are breaking links to existing articles. Doug Weller talk 15:07, 25 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hmmmm u guys think u know all stuffs and anyway who even gave u people the right to post an article of k Puipuianunuibuangpuia1 (talk) 17:04, 17 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Kuki mizo people .ok let me explain it to u kind of people in this way suppose u r a brit and theres no article for u people in wikipedia and i was among much civil Puipuianunuibuangpuia1 (talk) 17:08, 17 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Civilised modern society and aware of wiki ok just suppose ok to make u clear and u brits werent that modern and mainstream on internet(social media also)and i ya i somehow get to knew bout u guys and i thought i should make an article but as i said being not mainstr.. i couldnt find any detail research done bout u brit by your own people . So someway i found rare researh done by completely another person (like u guys used david peterson) who didnt ask the local brits and just relied on books and record of someone and showed it to the world where there were many flaws but he didnt know it cause u know no one told him . Then i saw that and posted it on wiki wiki .and some year later u the brit i mention bought phone and thought to search for your people on wiki .but guess what u guys were m Puipuianunuibuangpuia1 (talk) 17:20, 17 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Mentioned as bugs which was used by the superior race neighbouring in olden time Puipuianunuibuangpuia1 (talk) 17:22, 17 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Neighb... u r people in olden time as a mocking name and as they were superior as time passed they got modernized much earlier than u brit so many author rose among them and some even wrote bout u but as how their ancester called u not knowing how ur culture tradition language and ur race name is! And ya that completely another person(means not a brit)from whos research i got something to post got his stuff from this authors book . Ok now read carefully he dont know what wrong in that book cause their not much books to rely cause u brit got modernize late and so u guys had historical records less (the case with mizo kuki people)and he use it . Now u saw it u saw the bug word u got offended and wanna change it and u change it . Later i saw the changes and i thought who the hell is this dude is who dare to change my sources (why i said like this? cause as i told u i didnt know it is wrong cause i thought i got it from a person had done research even used it for academic term) and i change d it again . Now u saw my reedits and wonder this guy isnt even a brit he dont even know my peoples detailed history which our granparent had pass down to us .

Thats it

Okayyy now tell whos wrong dont know read again carefully and use ur source using brain

In the the story above you are me and i was as you ok. I used the term brit to refers to mizo zo people and Puipuianunuibuangpuia1 (talk) 17:41, 17 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The superior race as bengali burmese and the british whites . The mockery word bug refers to kuki and chin .the completely another person who did research refers to d.peterson and e Puipuianunuibuangpuia1 (talk) 17:44, 17 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

And etc etc mr doug dont u understand me we want recognition but of our true self .can u tell me how did u got the right to even post bout mizo people u who is sitting at home from a completely different country is telling me he know more stuff about mizo zo kuki well u r reading a reply of a very mizo person

My message may be harsh sorry for that but i hope one day u will understand .

GOD BLESS U MAN👋 Puipuianunuibuangpuia1 (talk) 18:08, 17 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

We all must follow. WP:VERIFY and WP:NOR. ………… — Preceding unsigned comment added by Doug Weller (talk • contribs) 19:08, 17 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

So what if i publish the facts i have mentioned on a website can i use it or at least can i put or (eg-Kuki-chin languages or kuki-chin-mizo languages) Puipuianunuibuangpuia1 (talk) 07:34, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Please have a look at the links provided by PaleoNeonate below. Self-published material are non considered reliable sources, as you can read here: WP:SPS. If your claims are indeed generally accepted "facts", you should be able to find external reliable sources that back up these claims. –Austronesier (talk) 09:30, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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How can u say its unrelated i am a mizo i know more stuff but thanks anyway for telling and ya its related wanna know how leave reply

Puipuianunuibuangpuia1 (talk) 18:11, 17 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

July 2020

Please do not add or change content, as you did at Kuki-Chin languages, without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. Austronesier (talk) 08:51, 28 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Do not manipulate the titles of sources, as you have repeatedly have done here[1][2] and here[3][4]. You have to bring up reliable sources that back up your edits; manipulating sources is certainly not the right way, and may result in a block. @Doug Weller: They keep on doing it. –Austronesier (talk) 19:10, 4 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I keep doing for a fact that u dont know yet Puipuianunuibuangpuia1 (talk) 13:16, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks Puipuianunuibuangpuia1 (talk) 08:14, 21 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I didnt get one thing. U mean if i edited an article in my sandbox , it will be considered just a test is it . Im nervous if i mess up again others may feel me annoying and disturbed . Puipuianunuibuangpuia1 (talk) 08:24, 21 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Don't worry, your sandbox is not an article, so you can really do tests edits there, or make text drafts for later edits in "real" articles. –Austronesier (talk) 09:07, 21 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

So there are options

is it? Puipuianunuibuangpuia1 (talk) 09:11, 21 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hey that india article i told u to see did u see mizo being mentioned .Can u tell me why isnt it on the india people article Puipuianunuibuangpuia1 (talk) 09:13, 21 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yes you can even copy-paste an article into your sandbox and start editing it there (make sure to copy from the source rather than from the web page rendering for best results). The history allows to then obtain differences between the original and your new edits. If the sandbox is long unused (WP:G13) or becomes effectively a fork (WP:POVFORK) it could eventually be nominated for deletion, though. —Paleo Neonate – 05:04, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

August 2020

Please refrain from making test edits in Wikipedia pages, such as those you made to Mizoram, even if you intend to fix them later. Your edits have been reverted. If you would like to experiment again, please use your sandbox. David Biddulph (talk) 12:35, 19 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for it Puipuianunuibuangpuia1 (talk) 12:55, 19 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you add unsourced material to Wikipedia, as you did at Indian people. Austronesier (talk) 12:55, 19 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

U mean every word need source Puipuianunuibuangpuia1 (talk) 14:02, 19 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Search india and look at its eight scheduled languages , there is mizo But theres no m Puipuianunuibuangpuia1 (talk) 14:06, 19 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Mizo word on the indian people article so it contradicts each other or they forgot it to put. Puipuianunuibuangpuia1 (talk) 14:08, 19 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

So i just add it there . if giving me wa Puipuianunuibuangpuia1 (talk) 14:09, 19 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

If you re giving me warning why not give warning also to the guy who put mizo on the india article i thought i was doing good by putting something missing which was on other article See it for yourself u say anyone can edit wikipedia and ya sticking also with rules

I was thinking to look for indian related articles which had some wrongs and correct .so i saw the mizo being mentioned on india article but when i look at indian people it wasnt . I thought y isnt it there while its on the india one edited by someone which is approved .so i thought that they may have made some mistakes and corrected it

Really wanna see whats your answers to this Puipuianunuibuangpuia1 (talk) 14:23, 19 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Mizo-Kuki-Chin

You may be happy to hear that I have found some good sources (in scholarly books and journals from experts in linguistics) that refer to the language group as "Mizo-Kuki-Chin languages". I will check if this is sufficient for changing the page names per WP:COMMONNAME, because we have to show that "Mizo-Kuki-Chin languages" is more common than just "Kuki-Chin languages", especially in new sources. But even if we cannot move the page titles, we can still mention "Mizo-Kuki-Chin" based on good sources. I will do some changes in the next days. –Austronesier (talk) 13:52, 24 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sir thanks alot for going through all the stuffs. Really appreciate it . When u will have time sir can u tell me how to find sources for our claims , is it just to web it or something else? Sir one thing just pop up in my mind , if the kuki chin is going to be changed what about it's related pages (northern kuki c.. southern kuki ch..m proto kuki ch... central kuki ch... etc) just mentioned it THANK YOU Puipuianunuibuangpuia1 (talk) 05:44, 25 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, you can do a web search for the search terms "Mizo-Kuki-Chin languages" vs. "Kuki-Chin languages". But remember, since this is mostly a matter of language classification, you should stick to academic sources, so ideally you can look for it in Google Scholar. There is a publication series that has a lot of papers dealing with the study of the languages in your area, it's called North East Indian Linguistics, and some volumes are available here[5].

Actually, you will see that many scholars still use the traditional term "Kuki-Chin" even in the most recent sources. One eminent scholar, Scott DeLancey, has used "Mizo-Kuki-Chin languages" in some articles from around 2010, but now has switched back to "Kuki-Chin languages". Linguists are usually sensitive to issues like the ones you have brought up (like "Kuki" sounding negative for your community); many experts are active in language community projects and also enganged in Bible translations (like SIL International), and they wouldn't use expressions that are insulting to the community. –Austronesier (talk) 13:22, 25 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I have just found out another thing: in the page Kuki-Chin languages, one of the sources is a dissertation:

VanBik, Kenneth (2009). Proto-Kuki-Chin: A Reconstructed Ancestor of the Kuki-Chin Languages.

I have tried to find info about the author, and you will maybe be suprised to see this:[6]. Prof. Van Bik is a Hakha, and his father translated the Hakha Bible.[7] So it's not only the colonial "Brits" who use "Kuki-Chin", but also people how belong to the group of ethnicities that speak Kuki-Chin languages. –Austronesier (talk) 14:52, 25 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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