User talk:Professor in music

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Haffner Symphony

Hello. Yes, I posted some doubts about the authenticity of your large contribution to Symphony No. 35 (Mozart), but I did not delete your contribution. As I said in the talk page, the new material read like it was written for something else. You've answered my question in that the article was originally written for a music degree that you were pursuing -- which explains the lack of wikification and the style of the prose. Since your material appeared to be well-cited then I think it just needed to be cleaned up a bit. (Wikipedia articles are constantly being reworded and rephrased, but the well-cited facts hold up).

I did some minor touch-ups on the article and added a "wikify" maintenance tag but left your contribution in tact. Another editor ([[User::Addhoc]] ended up deleting your entry. I think what likely happened is that he saw that your contribution was tacked on at the end and not integrated with the previous article.

Also, the confusion with the Haffner Serenade was also another editor. The confusion is certainly understandable, though, because K385-symphony was derived from an unpublished serenade (which was not related to K. 250) and the K250-serenade was later truncated and performed as a symphony (which was not related to K. 385). A brief note on the articles for K.250 and K. 385 would clear that up.

I would be in favor of you reposting your Haffner material and I can help with wikification. DavidRF 14:57, 13 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wikifying means interspersing all of those wiki-links throughout the article. A giant article with no links raises a red flag for editors. The article should also be integrated with what is already there. When you originally posted the article it was appended at the end and made it stick out even more (and made it easy for an editor to lop it off). Lastly, there may be some POV statements that work fine for some audiences but may not be appropriate for wikipedia. I don't remember too much POV stuff in your article, but it is extremely common for people to gush about the composer's genius when they write about classical pieces. Again, I don't think that was a problem in your article, but that's the type of stuff that usually needs rewording.

What you posted is in the history, I can help integrate the article. I just need some time to do so. I did a similar clean-up with the Haydn Opus 33 quartets. Someone posted a lot of really interesting, but unwikified material and I helped to make it look like wikipedia while making sure that all of the factual statements remained unchanged. I'll try to get to it either tonight or this weekend. DavidRF 15:17, 14 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Integrating your stuff right now. Just to warn you, it looks like I'll be doing much more editing then I expected. I'll try to keep all the cited facts, though. DavidRF 02:41, 16 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]