User talk:PritongKandule/Archives/2023/July

Guidance needed

Thank you for contacting me through this page. I saw you took off the edit I made on the basis that it was not referenced and you now say it was not constructive. I have to agree that I cannot present a citation, however it is constructive, rational, and logical that if a statement is made about the mouth's function are for noble attributes but ignoring that the same organ can be used for ignoble attributes e.g. cursing, swearing, or through which vomit flows is contrary to the stance taken by scholar quoted, who says mouth is used for recitation and remembrance of God and should not be polluted by sexual activity using it on genitals. Do you see the point I'm making? Please advise how I can put this into the article as you are more experienced because it is highly relevant. Unless of course you are an apologist for that sheik and you feel that any other view is incorrect. I would then rebut this by the following statement by one of the greatest Muslim scholars of the previous century [Dr Muhammed Hamidullah (cf)] whose opinion in a speech on this matter was that all things that have been prohibited has been revealed to us by the Qur'an and Ahadith; anything else we must exercise our intellect to determine the correct answer. Therefore anything which is not mentioned in the Qur'an and Ahadith is permitted unless there is some other reason to ban it. So for example cigarette smoking cannot be said to be banned by Islam, wrong, or sinful (I am aware some say it is) even though we know it does harm, it can only be that it is discouraged or not recommended. I hope you get my point! Mhakcm (talk) 00:18, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

"I have to agree that I cannot present a citation"

There you go, you just said the problem. Wikipedia does not allow original research, including any "analysis" that isn't already mentioned by a reliable, secondary source. The rules are quite clear.

You can write about your analysis or interpretations in a blog, an article, an essay, or anywhere else, but not in an encyclopedia. PritongKandule-✉️📝 06:20, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

Samahang Ilokano

Want to take a crack at finding *any* suitable reference? Samahang Ilokano has a deletion discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Samahang Ilokano and even the usual members of WP:FRAT who are in favor of keeping *everything* haven't chimed in.Naraht (talk) 21:29, 1 July 2023 (UTC)