User talk:Prcc27/Archives/2022/October

Circumcision and HIV

Consensus has changed (it happens), which is why you have needed to start edit-warring to get your preferred text in. You are I assume aware of WP:EW? Bon courage (talk) 04:46, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

• @Bon courage: Please show me the discussion on the article’s talk page where consensus has changed. All I see is a couple of users tag teaming their edits. I reverted the other user once, and you once. Please do not accuse me of edit warring when you have made 2 reverts in a day on an article in the past. (And no, a dummy edit does not count as a revert). Prcc27 (talk) 04:49, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
• The change is evident in the edits made. WP:ONUS pertains particularly to inclusions of such disputed text, and removing outdated cruft is just necessary cleanup in any case. As I say, WP:CCC and the the old text had nothing more than weak/stale consensus in any case, as we now see. Your stated intention to continue reverting is noted. Better, I look forward to your raising this on the Article Talk page should you wish to argue for your insertion. Bon courage (talk) 04:58, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
  • @Bon courage: Please do not misinterpret policy: “the onus to achieve consensus for inclusion is on those seeking to include disputed content”. Consensus was already “achieved”, so until consensus changes, ONUS does not apply. And no, a couple of tag team edits do not count as a “new consensus”. I look forward to you bringing this matter to the talk. Because if you do not get consensus for your edit, the original consensus still applies. Prcc27 (talk) 05:07, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
    • You're wrong about the consensus, which is why you're having to edit-war. Consensus is not just something written on Talk pages, you know. Anyway since your stated tactic is to continue reverting and not Talk, I have taken that step to try and head problems off. Your participation would be welcome. Bon courage (talk) 05:13, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
      • @Bon courage:An edit being in the article for less than 6 hours is not a consensus. Especially when one of the user’s edit summaries does not even match their edit: “removed extensive activist text that is not referenced and does not belong in an encyclopedia.” KNMG is not an activist organization, and the paragraph in question did have a reference. If consensus changes, I will respect that. And yes, I will be participating in the discussion, so we can work towards a stronger consensus if possible. Prcc27 (talk) 05:27, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

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