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Taiping Heavenly Kingdom

Please see my apology for not making a clear explanation of WP policies at Taiping Heavenly Kingdom Talk Page. ch (talk) 03:11, 29 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

We should discuss any further changes at the section on the Talk Page, linked above. You should bear in mind that continuing to make edits that go against Wikipedia policies and after these are pointed out, still refusing over a period of time to discuss them may constitute Disruptive editing. Let's talk it over!ch (talk) 21:43, 30 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Reponse: The only thing which needs to be done is that you need to see the new credible source I provided which clearly states the massacre of 40,000 manchus by the taiping rebels in nanjing, but you keep stubbornly insisting on writing it your way and completely ignoring the source provided instead of easily figuring out yourself, I am begining to think that you don't want people to know that 40,000 manchus were killed in Nanjing by the taiping for some strange reason.

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Let's continue the discussion of the article at its TalkPage, which you can reach directly by clicking on this link:Taiping Heavenly Kingdom Talk Page. All the best.ch (talk) 05:17, 31 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

November 2016

Hello, I'm Parsley Man. I wanted to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions to Antisemitism have been undone because they did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you think a mistake was made, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. Parsley Man (talk) 23:38, 5 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did with this edit to Cantonese people. Your edits appear to constitute vandalism and have been reverted or removed. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Repeated vandalism can result in the loss of editing privileges. Thank you. Imminent77 (talk) 02:05, 7 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Well you appear to be lying, how the hell is improving the source with revelant well researched infromation an act of vandalism or being unconstructive? You are not making any sense, I was obviously greatly aiding in the increase of more useful information of that wikipage, just because you don't like my editing style and words does not prove that I am being unconstructive or engaging in vandalism.

Do not call editors liars. Please read WP:AGF. Our articles should use formal English, and "get ugly" is far too informal. You need to be willing to learn from more experienced editors. Doug Weller talk 20:53, 7 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: I second Doug Weller's politely restrained advice. In response to an uncivil comment, I also called WP:AFG to Polyenetian's attention here as well as pointing out the need to sign all postings.ch (talk) 23:09, 7 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Mirrors

Thanks for contributing to the article Cantonese people ‎. However, one of Wikipedia's core policies is that material must be verifiable and attributed to reliable sources. You have recently used citations which copied, or mirrored, material from Wikipedia. This leads to a circular reference and is not acceptable. Most mirrors are clearly labeled as such, but some are in violation of our license and do not provide the correct attribution. Please help by adding alternate sources to the article you edited! If you need any help or clarification, you can look at Help:Contents/Editing Wikipedia or ask at Wikipedia:New contributors' help page, or just ask me. Thank you. Kuru (talk) 11:25, 7 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

November 2016

Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. It appears that you copied or moved text from one or more pages into another page. While you are welcome to re-use Wikipedia's content, here or elsewhere, Wikipedia's licensing does require that you provide attribution to the original contributor(s). When copying within Wikipedia, this is supplied at minimum in an edit summary at the page into which you've copied content, disclosing the copying and linking to the copied page, e.g., copied content from [[page name]]; see that page's history for attribution. It is good practice, especially if copying is extensive, to also place a properly formatted {{copied}} template on the talk pages of the source and destination. The attribution needs to be added or the material removed. You can read more about the procedure and the reasons at Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia. Thank you. Doug Weller talk 20:46, 7 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

November 2016

This is your only warning; if you make personal attacks on others again, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. "how many times you cantonese were being butchered, raped and starved to death, you will be regreting it for the rest of your life." The tone of your message is clearly inappropriate. You have been warned to be civilized before - this is your last warning. Cahk (talk) 10:51, 11 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I've removed the nationalist scolding on this page

Several users have reverted the argument from the (in my opinion comparatively civilized) IP on this page. I'm finishing the job by semiprotecting the page and removing the entire "Your bias anti-Cantonese feelings makes me angry", where Polyenetian's own input is by some margin the worst. No page on Wikipedia is intended for nationalist scolding. Polyenetian, please don't put any of it back, and listen to Cahk's warning above, or you will be sanctioned. Bishonen | talk 12:56, 11 November 2016 (UTC).[reply]

Oh well, I wanted to read and respond but didn't get the chance to since you deleted his message. Anyways thanks for the kind reminder, and giving me a second chance as I am a new editor here on wikipedia and still have alot of learning to do.

November 2016

Hello, I noticed that you may have recently made edits to Cantonese people while logged out. Making edits while logged out reveals your IP address, which may allow others to determine your location and identity. Wikipedia's policy on multiple accounts usually does not allow the use of both an account and an IP address by the same person in the same setting. If this was not your intention, please remember to log in when editing. Thank you. -- Rrburke (talk) 13:07, 12 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

WP:ANI alert

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Bishonen | talk 17:55, 12 November 2016 (UTC).[reply]

Reverting you isn't vandalism

Please don't use the word unless the edits meet our definition at WP:VANDALISM. And why haven't you joined the WP:ANI discussion? Doug Weller talk 17:03, 13 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The reason why I called what you did vandalism was because you unreasonably and biasly reverted my edits with lousy reasonings that do not make any sense, your attempts of justifying yourself is apallingly hilarious as you accused me of whie numerous other have succeeded in getting away with doing the same thing as I while I did not, and you even contradicted yourself with your reasonings when some of of my edit statements are not eligible for reversion under your reasonings, yet you still reverted all of them. Jews are the most hated race in the world, the fact that jews have been repeatedly massacred and have their population decreased by more then half in many peruod of history from the crusades to the holocaust which is why anti-semitism is of great interest to me and I am fasinated at the tremendous amount of hatred whites have against the jews, I just wish to have my helpful contributions undisturbed by you on the anti-semitism wikipage please.

Um, it was User:Malik Shabazz reverting you, not me. You're a bit confused and you're confusing me as I don't quite understand what you are saying. I'm glad anti-semitism is of interest to you. Hopefully you'll be glad to know that I have blocked a number of anti-Semites from editing Wikipedia, as recently in fact as last night. You really should be discussing this on the article's talk page. Doug Weller talk 19:33, 13 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

More on Taiping Heavenly Kingdom

Two problems with your repeated replacement of good text and good references.

1) Your footnotes which I replaced and now replace again were "bare url." A bare url is against Wikipedia policy, as I explained before. You can see the essay WP:BAREURLS for more.

I fixed the citation with Wikipedia Citation Tool for Google Books, which is at http://reftag.appspot.com/

You just enter the url of the Google Book page, and it generates a full citation.

2) You replaced Reilly's Taiping Heavenly Kingdom with White's 100 Deadliest Atrocities.

WP:SCHOLARSHIP and WP:PSTS explain why Wikipedia prefers Secondary Sources. Reilly worked with the primary sources and read the other work in the field; White simply read works like Reilly's.

In addition, your edits frequently have typos (e.g. "manchu" for "Manchu", "cosider" for "consider").

Wikipedia is a great thing, and one of the greatest things about it is that anyone can edit. But this means that everyone has to take the time to understand policies. We have to edit carefully, not quickly and casually. Some of these policies are technical, as above, and some are social. The social policies, such as Assume Good Faith mean that we treat each other with respect.

Hope this helps!ch (talk) 19:17, 17 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

December 2016

Hello, I'm Kautilya3. I noticed that you made a change to an article, Growth of Muslim Population in Medieval India, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so! If you need guidance on referencing, please see the referencing for beginners tutorial, or if you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Kautilya3 (talk) 12:16, 7 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at Hoklo people. Your edits appear to be disruptive and have been undone.

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Please ensure you are familiar with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, and please do not continue to make edits that appear disruptive. Continual disruptive editing may result in loss of editing privileges. Thank you. Lemongirl942 (talk) 07:48, 10 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

And with books you need to provide page numbers - editors can' be expected to read a whole book to find the source. Thanks. Doug Weller talk 16:54, 14 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to vandalize Wikipedia, as you did at Persecution of Hindus, you may be blocked from editing. - You removed an anchor, changed existing section headings, and removed an isbn from a reference, all without any edit summary to explain your edits. This is disruptive and must stop. --David Biddulph (talk) 12:48, 15 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Really hard to AGF here, just two edits ([1], [2]) I've encountered both had to be reverted. Top of that, no edit summaries. Ugog Nizdast (talk) 17:48, 15 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Full citations

Hi Polyenetian, please make an effort to provide full citations for the sources you use. The author, publisher and date of publication are always necessary. Whether they are reliable sources or not depends on this information. Also, please consult WP:HISTRS to understand the nature of sources needed for historical information. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 15:54, 14 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

December 2016

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Thank you. Lemongirl942 (talk) 20:30, 15 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you make personal attacks on other people, as you did at Talk:Indian people. Comment on content, not on fellow editors. --David Biddulph (talk) 04:20, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Repeated personal attacks

Your repeated personal and racist attacks despite my caution on Talk:Indian people are quite surprising. But looking at your talk page, you clearly have a persistent incivility problem. I am requesting admins to take action. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 07:44, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Can you find me a statement I wrote which contains racist remarks toward indians? You are not even making any sense, how is telling the truth about india being racist? Just because you are upset at me for telling facts about your country does not mean that I am racist. I am not the first person to say that India is an artificial state, many great leaders suh as winston churchill and lee kuan yew have stated this fact, sadly no matter waht you say it is still not going to change the fact that india is an artificial state created by the british raj. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Polyenetian (talk • contribs) 09:55, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

December 2016

You have been blocked from editing for a period of 24 hours for disruptive editing, an inability to edit cooperatively, name calling and attacking in discussions. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may request an unblock by first reading the guide to appealing blocks, then adding the following text to the bottom of your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. —SpacemanSpiff 13:28, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I see that you've been warned about the discretionary sanctions relating to India/Pakistan. If after your block expires, you continue to edit in the same manner then you are likely to be topic banned from the area. —SpacemanSpiff 13:29, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

You are still breaking our copyright policy by copying from other articles without attribution

This edit copies text from Mysorean invasion of Kerala#Cochin accepts Mysore's superiority without attribution, although you've been warned about this before. Unless both you and the editor who added it there copied it from another source, which is of course possible, see my next warning. It could be from Islamic conquest of Kerala which is about the same topic. Doug Weller talk 14:55, 24 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia and copyright

Hello Polyenetian, and welcome to Wikipedia. All or some of your addition(s) to Muslim conquests of the Indian subcontinent have been removed, as it appears to have added copyrighted material without evidence of permission from the copyright holder. While we appreciate your contributing to Wikipedia, there are certain things you must keep in mind about using information from your sources to avoid copyright or plagiarism issues here.

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It's very important that contributors understand and follow these practices, as policy requires that people who persistently do not must be blocked from editing. If you have any questions about this, you are welcome to leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Doug Weller talk 14:57, 24 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Yet more copying from other aritlces

This is copied from Persecution of Hindus. Doug Weller talk 15:28, 24 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Well actually I was as the one who editted and added the sentences into the 'persecution of hindus' wikipage and also included these edits I made to the 'muslim conquests of indian subcontinent' wikipage, you can go and check the history of that wikipage for proof. Is it against the rules to have similar sentences in both wikipages, I am really sorry if it is.

I hope that I am not being distruptive, I am actually trying my best to contribute to wikipedia and help people expand their knowledge, I also see you are quite a reasonable and fair person, you have included reasonings and you even made the troublesome effort of informing me when you alter my edits which I really appreciate unlike most other administrators who edit base on their personal opinions without reasoning with other editors because of their self-righteousness. I hope that after explaining the reasons to you it has convinced you to allow me to restore my previously words you changed in the timur section, and lastly thank you for your teaching and guideance, as an inexperienced editor on wikipedia I really appreciate your kind help which has aided me greatly in learning and improving my edits on wikipedia along the way. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Polyenetian (talk • contribs) 16:12, 24 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Please remember that your messages on talk pages need a signature. --David Biddulph (talk) 16:19, 24 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. You can copy from one article to another. Even when I copy text I wrote, I write "copy/paste from [[name of article]] so that people can see both where it came from and using tools such as Wikiblame can see who wrote the original. Doug Weller talk 17:00, 24 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

So you can restore the material you copied from the other article, noting it in the edit summary. But you can't replace the material you copied, with minor changes, from a website. Doug Weller talk 18:10, 24 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Problematic editing

Dear Polyenetian, you have received ample warnings of various kinds above, including the ARBIPA sanctions alert. However, your editing is still problematic. We need you to

provide full citations for all your sources, including author, title, publisher, date.
ensure that they meet the requirements of WP:HISTRS when covering matters of history.
provide accurate edit summaries for all your edits.
discuss the issues on the talk page whenever disagreements arise.

Failure to satisfy these requirements will lead to Arbitration enforcement sanctions. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 17:41, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

You edits on Hokkien

Your edits on Hokkiens are too positive but always negative on others.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:59.189.108.218 <---- you've been replied — Preceding unsigned comment added by DragoniteLeopard (talk • contribs) 10:52, 29 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The hoklo population you edited in fact proves that I was right that you are an idiot, you are so goddamn stupid you use informally written, non-research based blogposts as credible sources and citations on wikipedia, stupid people like you should not be allowed to edit on wikipedia, you are an example of why people should take IQ tests before they can edit on wikipedia so that people like you who are not smart enough to even make a reliable cited edit (blogposts with no evidence or sources included are obviously unreliable, you cretin!) will be banned and not danger wikipedia from stupidity's harm. And nobody writes bad things about their related racial groups you stupid flat nose cantonese subhuman, hoklo page are possitive just like cantonese is. And since you want a response, you are going to recieve a response very soonly about cantonese getting massacred and and then even eaten alive by ming loyalists, hope you enjoy.

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