User talk:Pmoore2222

Patrick Moore (environmentalist)

I reverted your edits to Patrick Moore (environmentalist). To me, some of it violated WP:NPOV and some of it was assertion of fact without citations. There was no edit comment or talk entry to support your edit on this very contentious article. Also, your edit removed some useful wikification and bloated the introduction with biographical details.

That said, it looked like there was some valuable content there. I would like you to consider renewing your edits in smaller portions, with references, and with edit comments and/or talk comments. You may also want to put something on your user page asserting that you are not, in fact, Patrick Moore himself, despite your username.

As you may know, Patrick Moore is a very controversial person. People have very strong opinions about him and are very sensitive of comments that paint him as hero or villain. In all likelihood, your edits would have soon been reverted with an angry response. If you don't believe me, reinstate your edits to see what happens. I will leave them alone.

If you'd like some help reworking your edits, let me know. I'll try to help. I'd have reworked them some instead of reverting them tonight, but I don't have a lot of time to give the Wikipedia right now. —BozoTheScary (talk) 05:00, 4 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

February 2011

Welcome to Wikipedia. If you are affiliated with some of the people, places or things you have written about in the article Patrick Moore (environmentalist), you may have a conflict of interest. In keeping with Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy, edits where there is a conflict of interest, or where such a conflict might reasonably be inferred, are strongly discouraged. If you have a conflict of interest, you should avoid or exercise great caution when:

editing or creating articles related to you, your organization, or its competitors, as well as projects and products they are involved with;
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linking to the Wikipedia article or website of your organization in other articles (see Wikipedia:Spam).

Please familiarize yourself with relevant policies and guidelines, especially those pertaining to neutral point of view, verifiability of information, and autobiographies.

For information on how to contribute to Wikipedia when you have a conflict of interest, please see our frequently asked questions for organizations. Thank you. Falcon8765 ^(TALK) 22:50, 11 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The recent edit you made to Patrick Moore (environmentalist) constitutes vandalism, and has been reverted. Please do not continue to remove content without explanation. Thank you. Falcon8765 ^(TALK) 23:08, 11 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not continue to violate Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy, as you did with this edit to Patrick Moore (environmentalist). If you continue to do so, you will be blocked from editing. Falcon8765 ^(TALK) 23:09, 11 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This is your last warning. You will be blocked from editing the next time you violate Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy, as you did with this edit to Patrick Moore (environmentalist). Falcon8765 ^(TALK) 23:12, 11 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

COI

A thread has been started that may be relevant to you at Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest/Noticeboard#Patrick_Moore_.28environmentalist.29. Falcon8765 ^(TALK) 23:18, 11 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I have blocked your account and thus you can not participate in the above discussion. Please post your comments here. Wikipedia is a collaborative project where it is obligatory at some point to start communicating with other editors and explain your changes. Your edits to Patrick Moore have raised several concerns of not adhering to WP:NPOV, WP:COI and WP:REF policies which have to be resolved before continuing to edit that article. Materialscientist (talk) 23:35, 11 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: the most fundamental problem I've seen with your edits is that they have not been sourced. Information should generally be verified with reference to reliable sources, preferably independent of the subject of the article. The others are issues too, but if you had sources for your information you could, for example, present them on the article page, and allow others to use them appropriately. Rd232 ^talk 23:45, 11 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Please unblock me as I will abide by the rules. My failure to do so was not done on purpose, I did not understand what was happening when my edits were reverted. I will begin with editing my CV only.

(To those who might watch this page) - I am actively communicating with the user via email and we will hopefully reach an agreement shortly. Materialscientist (talk) 04:15, 14 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Unblocked per email communications under condition to edit in userspace only (short probation to see first edits, for the user's sake). Link to sandbox. Materialscientist (talk) 02:00, 15 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Moved my comments on sandbox edits to User_talk:Pmoore2222/Sandbox. Materialscientist (talk) 04:47, 18 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

COI

Hello, Pmoore2222. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about on Wikipedia, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. We ask that you:

avoid editing or creating articles about yourself, your family, friends, company, organization or competitors;
propose changes on the talk pages of affected articles (see the {{request edit}} template);
disclose your conflict of interest when discussing affected articles (see WP:DISCLOSE);
avoid linking to your organization's website in other articles (see WP:SPAM);
do your best to comply with Wikipedia's content policies.

In addition, you must disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution which forms all or part of work for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation (see WP:PAID).

Also please note that editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. Bueller 007 (talk) 02:31, 4 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Multiple accounts etc

Hi

it has been suggested that Pmooregreenspirit and Greenspiritman are other accounts you have used previously... is this correct, and regardless, are there any other accounts you have created? Andrewa (talk) 00:04, 1 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

In addition to the two pings above I have now posted explicit notices at the two relevant user talk pages. [1] [2]

Please note the policy on this: It is recommended that contributors not use multiple accounts without good reason... It is recommended that multiple accounts be identified as such on their user pages... The use of multiple accounts outside of established policy for doing so is known as sock puppetry, and is not permitted. (... shows text I have omitted for brevity.)

I appreciate that these other accounts have not been used for some years, and that you may no longer have access to them, but they should still be identified as your accounts if that is the case. Andrewa (talk) 14:43, 4 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

User:Pmoore2222 COI

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. NedFausa (talk) 21:36, 2 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Pmoore; I recognize that you edit here rarely. Given that, it's possible you will not see the above discussion before it is archived. I want to make a few things unequivocally clear. First, you are most welcome to edit here. Second, to edit here, you must do so in a collegial fashion. You do not edit alone here; no one ever does. If you can not get along with your fellow editors here, you may find it impossible to work here. Third, given that you have apparently self identified [3] as Patrick Moore, you must read and understand Wikipedia:Autobiography. Quoting directly from that guideline; "Writing an autobiography on Wikipedia is an example of conflict of interest editing and is strongly discouraged. Editing a biography about yourself is acceptable only if you are removing unambiguous vandalism or clear-cut and serious violations of our biography of living persons policy." We also have a very strict policy regarding the issue of editing biographies of living people. That policy is Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons. If you have a complaint about the content of Patrick Moore (consultant), or in any way find it inaccurate, in need of updating, etc. then the path forward is to post a message to the talk page of the article at Talk:Patrick Moore (consultant). Given that you did make one edit to a talk page (this page here) with this edit, you have demonstrated an ability to use talk pages. Every edit you are making to Patrick Moore (consultant) is being reverted. Surely you can see that continuing to directly edit the article is NOT the way forward. You have previously been blocked for violating WP:COI. If you persist in violating our policies and guidelines it is highly likely you will be blocked again. I strongly, in the most adamant terms, encourage you to post to the talk page of the article and not the article itself. If there is something wrong on the article, we will gladly correct it if a reliable source can be found to support the correction, or if you can rightfully point out that whatever is wrong in the article does not have a reliable source to support it. Work with us, not against us. We are happy to support you, but continuing as you have will yield nothing positive. I will stand forward to help you, and already have. I saw this edit, and tried to verify it. I looked at the archives for this site located at https://web.archive.org/web/2019*/https://www.greenpeace.org/international/, and attempted to find a page somewhere in that archive prior to 2007 that mentions you as a founder of Greenpeace. I could not. That doesn't mean I doubt you, but that I can't verify it. That you are a founder of Greenpeace is disputed, and thus we need to verify it per Wikipedia:Verifiability and Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons. If you can help us identify a source that proves this, it would be most welcome. This is how we work together. If you have questions, let me know. I'll watchlist the talk page to ensure I see any updates to it. All the best, --Hammersoft (talk) 15:16, 4 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]