Jump to content

User talk:Pintoch

Page contents not supported in other languages.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Future meetups

[edit]

Hi, thanks for coming to Oxford 18 last weekend. At the meetup, some people were asking of a good way to find out about future meetups in other parts of the country. Visit one or more of the following, and "watch" it:

Then, as events get added, you'll find out through the watchlist of the relevant site. The next Oxford meetup is on 17 August. --Redrose64 (talk) 20:26, 26 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The next Cambridge meetup is 20 September; the next Oxford is 21 September. You might like to contact Robevans123 (talk · contribs) regarding that, he sometimes travels from Cambridge to Oxford. --Redrose64 (talk) 19:57, 19 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@Redrose64: Thanks! I will still be in France in September, but I'm sure I will be able to catch up later! − Pintoch (talk) 20:23, 19 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]


Open Access help

[edit]

Hey Pintoch! Thanks for your recent tweaks to Wikipedia Library pages about open access. We're always looking for help coordinating in the critical but underserved area. If you're interested in getting more involved, let me know, and I'd love to talk to you about a volunteer OA Coordinator position we've been looking to develop. Cheers! Jake Ocaasi (WMF) (talk) 17:59, 4 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Jake! That sounds interesting. Actually, I am still thinking about creating the OABOT, now that we have most of the tools to do it. I would be interesting in discussing what form it should have, concretely (but let's talk about that there, maybe). I'll write down some ideas soon. Best, Pintoch (talk) 22:57, 4 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Hey Pintoch! I see you've been making some coding progress :) I'd love to talk more about what you're working on and how we can get you more support or involvement. Would you be interested in a brief chat with audio? Please email me at jorlowitz@wikimedia.org. I'm excited to see something happening here and want to help however I can. Best, Jake Ocaasi (WMF) (talk) 16:46, 1 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Sure, done! − Pintoch (talk) 23:48, 2 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

From CS1 to BAG

[edit]

I'm so glad we're making quick progress with the template design. After that, will it be time to go to Bot Approvals Group? Cheers, Jake Ocaasi (WMF) (talk) 04:47, 2 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Ocaasi (WMF)! Yes, it's great that the CS1 people are on board, they are doing an amazing job. Before going to WP:BAG I think we would still need further changes in CS1 (basically adding the availability to add the icon to DOIs and plain URLs), but this should not take too long if we continue at the same pace. I'm also happy to say that we've been working on Dissemin's side to make things faster, so the bot should be able to run quicker. − Pintoch (talk) 07:26, 2 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Wikiversity Journal of Medicine, an open access peer reviewed journal with no charges, invites you to participate

[edit]

Did you know about Wikiversity Journal of Medicine? It is an open access, peer reviewed medical journal, with no publication charges. We welcome you to have a look. Feel free to participate.

You can participate in any one or more of the following ways:

The future of this journal as a separate Wikimedia project is under discussion and the name can be changed suitably. Currently a voting for the same is underway. Please cast your vote in the name you find most suitable. We would be glad to receive further suggestions from you. It is also acceptable to mention your votes in the wide-reach@wikiversityjournal.org email list. Please note that the voting closes on 16th August, 2016, unless protracted by consensus, due to any reason.

-from Diptanshu.D (talk · contribs · count) and others of the Editorial Board, Wikiversity Journal of Medicine.

DiptanshuTalk 19:42, 7 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The #lst function

[edit]

see Help:Labeled section transclusion. --Redrose64 (talk) 20:04, 16 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

[edit]
The Technical Barnstar
Count me in when working on WP:OABOT! ChPietsch (talk) 12:05, 17 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks a lot ChPietsch! For now we're mostly busing getting CS1 ready for the bot, but it seems that we will soon be able to submit the bot for approval. In the meantime if you see anything that can be improved, I have added you on the GitHub project. If you have a wmflabs account I can also add you to the project there. − Pintoch (talk) 13:40, 17 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Reference errors on 30 October

[edit]

Hello, I'm ReferenceBot. I have automatically detected that an edit performed by you may have introduced errors in referencing. It is as follows:

Please check this page and fix the errors highlighted. If you think this is a false positive, you can report it to my operator. Thanks, ReferenceBot (talk) 00:21, 31 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

OAbot

[edit]

Hi Pintoch! A question about your OAbot: is ths just for English Wikipedia? A different Wikipedia would have to change all the code related to Cite templates, or the porting is easier? Aubrey (talk) 10:38, 12 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Aubrey! For now it's only on enwiki, but I'd be really interested to extend it to other wikis! CristianCantoro had started thinking about an adaptation for itwiki in this github issue. It should be feasible, but there is some adaptation to be done indeed: translating the parameter names, adapting the identifiers, and removing support for access locks. I'd be glad to help! − Pintoch (talk) 18:52, 12 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

ArbCom Elections 2016: Voting now open!

[edit]

Hello, Pintoch. Voting in the 2016 Arbitration Committee elections is open from Monday, 00:00, 21 November through Sunday, 23:59, 4 December to all unblocked users who have registered an account before Wednesday, 00:00, 28 October 2016 and have made at least 150 mainspace edits before Sunday, 00:00, 1 November 2016.

The Arbitration Committee is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Wikipedia arbitration process. It has the authority to impose binding solutions to disputes between editors, primarily for serious conduct disputes the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the authority to impose site bans, topic bans, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The arbitration policy describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail.

If you wish to participate in the 2016 election, please review the candidates' statements and submit your choices on the voting page. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 22:08, 21 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

BAGBot: Your bot request OAbot

[edit]

Someone has marked Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/OAbot as needing your input. Please visit that page to reply to the requests. Thanks! AnomieBOT⚡ 20:20, 2 December 2016 (UTC) To opt out of these notifications, place {{bots|optout=operatorassistanceneeded}} anywhere on this page.[reply]

Merry Christmas

[edit]


Rubbish computer (HALP!: I dropped the bass?) is wishing you a Merry Christmas! This greeting (and season) promotes WikiLove and hopefully this note has made your day a little better. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Happy New Year!

Spread the cheer by adding {{subst:Xmas2}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

--Rubbish computer (HALP!: I dropped the bass?) 14:21, 22 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks a lot Rubbish computer! I wish you all the best for 2017, including a lot of Wikipedia meetups! − Pintoch (talk) 10:34, 23 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! Rubbish computer (HALP!: I dropped the bass?) 16:24, 23 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Happy New Year!

[edit]

Happy New Year Pintoch!

[edit]
Happy New Year!
Pintoch,
Have a prosperous, productive and wonderful New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.
--Rubbish computer (HALP!: I dropped the bass?) 19:06, 30 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

An update from the Sustainability Initiative

[edit]
Thank you for supporting the Sustainability Initiative!

Hi, Pintoch! Thank you again for supporting the Sustainability Initiative, which aims at reducing the environmental impact of the Wikimedia movement. Over the past two years, more than 200 Wikipedians from all over the world have come together to push the Wikimedia movement towards greater sustainability.

What's new?

We are writing you this message because there is great news: The Board of Trustees of the Wikimedia Foundation has finally passed a resolution stating that the Foundation is committed to seeking ways to reduce the impact of its activities on the environment. Also, we have created a cool logo and found a nice name for the project which you can see on the right :-)

What's next?

Currently, we are working with Wikimedia Foundation staff to make sustainability a key priority for the selection of a new location for Wikimedia servers in Singapore. Also, we have presented the Wikimedia Foundation with a green energy roadmap to have all Wikimedia servers run on renewable energy by 2019.

Please help!

Let's keep this project moving forward – and there are several ways in which you can help:

  • Ask other Wikipedians to sign the project page as well – this way we can show the Wikimedia Foundation that this is an issue that the community really cares about.
  • Talk to Wikimedians you know about the importance of reducing the environmental impact of the Wikimedia movement.
  • Improve and translate the project page on Meta.

If you have any questions, you can contact us on on Meta. Again, thank you very much for your support! --Aubrey und Gnom, 2 April 2017 —Preceding undated comment added 21:25, 2 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

OABot

[edit]

A semi-automated tool is great, but please consider a stripped version that would add the non-controversial stuff automatically. The semi-automated version can be the full-featured that suggests the full gamut of links, and the editor can take responsibility for which to add. This will also let humans focus on things that actually need human review. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 20:38, 17 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

With the latest version (|citeseerx= blacklisted) we dropped to really low edit rates. If we run the bot on the whole wiki as of today, my estimates indicate that it would not add more than a few hundred links in total! With the semi-automated tool, a single editor can add more links than that with very little effort. But we'll see how it goes: if a super-safe criterion to accept links surfaces as we use the bot, surely we can submit a BRFA for that. − Pintoch (talk) 20:49, 17 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
That hundred links beats nothing, and will scale in the future, especially as {{biorxiv}} takes off. It's also the only bot that I know of that finds {{hdl}} identifiers. A lot of astronomy/physics articles could use arxiv links (and bibcode) since User:Bibcode Bot has been killed by an API change. And you could easily have the bot add non-free identifiers that have support, like {{doi}}/{{jstor}}. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 20:54, 17 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
+1 Headbomb's thoughts @Pintoch: Is the plan to make it like Mix-n-match or the distributed game? I think without at least a "working queue of potential sources, with good instructions" -- its going to be hard to get people to contribute (the page-by-page interface, was hard for me to find a page that needed citations). Sadads (talk) 23:15, 17 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Sadads: yes, I will add a queue of preprocessed pages with suggested edits, so that is it is easier to find something to do. − Pintoch (talk) 23:24, 17 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Pintoch: If you did that before Open Access week this year, we could think about running some kind of programming/communiciations push for Open Access citations. Sadads (talk) 13:08, 18 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I think your new feature for human review is an awesome idea. Indeed, it's goal 2 of our planning. However, I'm confused why we don't want OA bot as it was proposed just running without citeseer?? It seems like we can have the best of both worlds. I'd love to talk about this to understand better. As for the cool interface you're building, I wonder if you want to have it present not an entire article's worth of changes, but a single new citation each time. Then there could be a few check-boxes to confirm that the paper is a) a match for the citation and b) not a copyright violation. I'm thinking of CitationHunt as a comparison as well as the great mix-n-match games. We want the interface to be 'fun to play' and not too much work for a single contribution (approval or decline). We also might want to think about having a queue or memory so that if an edit is reviewed as not a match or a copyvio, then it doesn't get presented in the same way from the same source. Cheers! Jake Ocaasi (WMF) (talk) 17:51, 18 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Blacklisting |citeseerx= is just a very bad response to the problem of copyright violations. There are also copyright violations in institutional repositories! As we blacklist things, new problems will keep stacking up and reduce the recall of the bot. I don't want to spend months running trials, it's time to get things done. I promise you the volume of potentially safe automated edits is negligible compared to what we will add with the manual one. I withdrew the BRFA because the community already spent way too much time on it, and the BAG has other things to do. Also, as a bot runner it would be my responsibility to respond to problems (which will inevitably happen). I just overestimated the quality of the underlying data and underestimated the workload it would be to curate it manually. If anybody wants to take the code of the bot and submit a new BRFA, starting where we left, they are of course welcome to do so! − Pintoch (talk) 18:43, 18 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Sadads, Ocaasi (WMF), Headbomb: I've made the interface more usable and muggle-proof (wikicode-free). I think it's in a decent state now, so you can keep feature requests coming but they will not be at the top of my todo list. − Pintoch (talk) 16:17, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Pintoch Tested on quark, seems to work fine. I'd add a link to [1] in the edit summary to advertise the bot to other people. Something like ... with OABot. It'd also be nice to
    • have the opportunity to make changes to the wikitext after OA suggested something, so we can tweak the parameter order, and the whitespace.
    • Have the option to not have the articles added to our watchlists
    • Instead of "added: <url>" for those with identifiers, I'd go with "added |PMC=foobar" / "added "url=foobar" to make it clear what is being added to the citation.

Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 16:28, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I also tried it! Works great: one of the problems right now, I don't have a good preview of the destination link (and clicking on a link, refreshes the page to the link, instead of opening a new tab, preview or popup). The permanent url helps prevent this from being a problem, but it requires multiple clicks and pages open (a little bit more complicated than the recent Mix-n-match interface changes). Sadads (talk) 18:41, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Very, very cool. It works, simply. I'd recommend the following simple changes to make the 'game' catch on:
  • Change the edit summary to "Added free to read links in citations using #oabot https://tools.wmflabs.org/oabot/" to give attribution and make the tool discoverable and enable hashtag tracking.
  • Only present one citation per article: it's less daunting than completing multiple reviews at the same time and more clear and satisfying that deselecting some links
  • Provide some very basic info on the review page about what they're looking for: a) is the link to the same paper (title, authors, abstract match)? b) is the link hosted appropriately (not a clear copyright infringement)?
  • Agree with Alex that all external links should auto-load in a new tab. In the UX you don't want to make it easy (or necessary) to leave the workflow.
  • Display a persistent counter in the on the website that has "Total links added with OAbot: xxx". Can later add "Total links added by you: yyy"
  • Lastly, after someone clicks "Perform edit", the next page should always say something like "Thanks, do another!"
These are all geared towards making the platform more sticky, lightweight, usable, and enjoyable. Ocaasi t | c 23:51, 20 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the feedback! I have made the following changes:

  • Change the default edit summary to add a link and hashtag, as suggested by Headbomb and Ocaasi
  • Do not add edited pages to the watchlists (it happened only if users had set their preferences to that setting), as suggested by Headbomb
  • Open external links in new tabs, as suggested by Sadads and Ocaasi

− Pintoch (talk) 11:16, 22 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • On [2], OABot suggests a link. But the link is simply the arxiv preprint. In those cases, the bot should use |arxiv= rather than link to the CERN server.
  • On [3], the bot suggests [4], suggesting [5] would be more useful, i feel.
  • On the OABot interface, there should be a "Report issue/suggestion/improvement" button/link kinda thing. This way people know where to put those comments.

Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 11:24, 22 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I've asked Sam Walton to create a phabricator project for tracking the bugs and feature request. It will also give us a place to link to for giving feedback from within the 'app'/'game'. Cheers! Ocaasi (WMF) (talk) 03:54, 26 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Created! I've added the unresolved suggestions from above, but will leave Pintoch to prioritise :) Sam Walton (talk) 13:56, 26 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Great, thanks a lot! − Pintoch (talk) 16:52, 26 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Re: {{open access}} and |doi-access=

[edit]

No, I didn't know. :) Please document on Template:Open access/doc and Wikipedia:WikiProject Open Access#Goals. --Nemo 12:25, 28 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. By the way, I notice Help:Citation_Style_1#Registration_or_subscription_required says "Links inserted with |url= are expected to be free to read by default". Was there already a discussion about replacing such links with oadoi.org targets? --Nemo 17:54, 28 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Please update the OABot data

[edit]

Dear Pintoch, because of #OAWeek the tool seems to have gotten some renewed interest (from me and a few other at least), but it seems the data it uses is now no longer useful. Often it gives old suggestions where the edit has already been made (25% of the cases), or where the "found" link is no longer working (25% of the cases). Also, I found many links suggested which are of different articles. The latter I would not like to "skip", but in fact reject (on the ground that the version found is not the same document), ensuring that no one else gets asked again and again to look at it. Otherwise, thanks for your nice tool! --Egon Willighagen (talk) 08:36, 25 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Egon, thanks for the heads up! I'll look into that. − Pintoch (talk) 08:51, 25 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Egon Willighagen: @Ocaasi (WMF): @Steelgraham: the thing is that users consume suggestions faster than OAbot generates them, so only the bad edits that no ones wants to do remain… I've added a worker to generate more fresh suggestions and removed the outdated edits manually. I agree there should be a button to reject a particular edit but do not have the time to work on that. Pull requests are welcome! − Pintoch (talk) 09:19, 25 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Understood! Looking forward to the fresh batch of suggestions! --Egon Willighagen (talk) 11:34, 25 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks !! --Steelgraham (talk) 10:29, 25 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Steelgraham: @Egon Willighagen: the queue of edits is a bit more full now, but I would recommend power users to hold off a bit so that others can have a go too. − Pintoch (talk) 18:29, 25 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Great. Thanks again (being in 2nd place, I will indeed hold off for a bit) Steelgraham (talk) 19:06, 25 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I'd like to add a +1 to the idea of a "reject" button - I have seen about 75% of suggestions that I'd like to reject (404s, copyright problems) but only option is 'skip'. Cheers! Love the tool! --TheLeaper (talk) 19:41, 25 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

+1 from me too on a reject button. Steelgraham (talk) 21:03, 25 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I am happy to give pointers to anyone who wants to start working on this issue, but do not have the time to tackle it myself. − Pintoch (talk) 11:39, 26 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Pintoch. Will you give me a 1 paragraph overview of the codebase (language, structure, mechanics) so that I can go seek out volunteer devs? If you want to add a sentence about the general approach you'd use to fix each the reject issue, no edit made issue, and any other top bugs that you wish were fixed, I will spread it far and wide and find some qualified people to help submit pull requests. Thanks again for your work on this. Jake Ocaasi (WMF) (talk) 20:10, 27 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
The tool is written in Python with flask. It stores candidate edits as JSON files on disk. Proposed edits are represented by the TemplateEdit class declared in main.py. To add a reject button, one needs to decide how to represent rejected edits (storing the link only? storing the template and the link? storing the DOI (if any) and the link?), choose a form of storage for the list of rejected edits (SQL table? text file? Wikipedia page, so that anyone can refine the blacklist?). When rejecting a link, all matching edits in the store of proposed edits must be invalidated, and candidate edits discovered after that must be matched against this database to filter them out. Or maybe there is a simpler way? I don't know. − Pintoch (talk) 20:32, 27 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

ANI about OABOT

[edit]

Information icon There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Jytdog (talk) 22:41, 28 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Jytdog: thanks for the notification! − Pintoch (talk) 23:10, 28 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
sure! glad you took it like i meant it. :) Jytdog (talk) 23:12, 28 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

ArbCom 2017 election voter message

[edit]

Hello, Pintoch. Voting in the 2017 Arbitration Committee elections is now open until 23.59 on Sunday, 10 December. All users who registered an account before Saturday, 28 October 2017, made at least 150 mainspace edits before Wednesday, 1 November 2017 and are not currently blocked are eligible to vote. Users with alternate accounts may only vote once.

The Arbitration Committee is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Wikipedia arbitration process. It has the authority to impose binding solutions to disputes between editors, primarily for serious conduct disputes the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the authority to impose site bans, topic bans, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The arbitration policy describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail.

If you wish to participate in the 2017 election, please review the candidates and submit your choices on the voting page. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 18:42, 3 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Doctor painting

[edit]

@Pintoch: Hi...Are you able to wikidata The Doctor (painting) please Whispyhistory (talk) 06:21, 5 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Sure! Feel free to add more stuff on wikidata:Q44681990… It's my first painting item so I'm not entirely confident about the statements - I hope we will get some help from WikiProject sum of all paintings. All the best! − Pintoch (talk) 09:38, 5 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, my first painting too. Please check my other articles too. Whispyhistory (talk) 14:40, 5 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Facto Post – Issue 7 – 15 December 2017

[edit]
Facto Post – Issue 7 – 15 December 2017

A new bibliographical landscape

[edit]

At the beginning of December, Wikidata items on individual scientific articles passed the 10 million mark. This figure contrasts with the state of play in early summer, when there were around half a million. In the big picture, Wikidata is now documenting the scientific literature at a rate that is about eight times as fast as papers are published. As 2017 ends, progress is quite evident.

Behind this achievement are a technical advance (fatameh), and bots that do the lifting. Much more than dry migration of metadata is potentially involved, however. If paper A cites paper B, both papers having an item, a link can be created on Wikidata, and the information presented to both human readers, and machines. This cross-linking is one of the most significant aspects of the scientific literature, and now a long-sought open version is rapidly being built up.

The effort for the lifting of copyright restrictions on citation data of this kind has had real momentum behind it during 2017. WikiCite and the I4OC have been pushing hard, with the result that on CrossRef over 50% of the citation data is open. Now the holdout publishers are being lobbied to release rights on citations.

But all that is just the beginning. Topics of papers are identified, authors disambiguated, with significant progress on the use of the four million ORCID IDs for researchers, and proposals formulated to identify methodology in a machine-readable way. P4510 on Wikidata has been introduced so that methodology can sit comfortably on items about papers.

More is on the way. OABot applies the unpaywall principle to Wikipedia referencing. It has been proposed that Wikidata could assist WorldCat in compiling the global history of book translation. Watch this space.

And make promoting #1lib1ref one of your New Year's resolutions. Happy holidays, all!

November 2017 map of geolocated Wikidata items, made by Addshore
[edit]
To subscribe to Facto Post go to Wikipedia:Facto Post mailing list. For the ways to unsubscribe, see below.
Editor Charles Matthews, for ContentMine. Please leave feedback for him. Back numbers are here.
Reminder: WikiFactMine pages on Wikidata are at WD:WFM.
If you wish to receive no further issues of Facto Post, please remove your name from our mailing list. Alternatively, to opt out of all massmessage mailings, you may add Category:Wikipedians who opt out of message delivery to your user talk page.
Newsletter delivered by MediaWiki message delivery

MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 14:54, 15 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Facto Post – Issue 8 – 15 January 2018

[edit]
Facto Post – Issue 8 – 15 January 2018

Metadata on the March

[edit]

From the days of hard-copy liner notes on music albums, metadata have stood outside a piece or file, while adding to understanding of where it comes from, and some of what needs to be appreciated about its content. In the GLAM sector, the accumulation of accurate metadata for objects is key to the mission of an institution, and its presentation in cataloguing.

Today Wikipedia turns 17, with worlds still to conquer. Zooming out from the individual GLAM object to the ontology in which it is set, one such world becomes apparent: GLAMs use custom ontologies, and those introduce massive incompatibilities. From a recent article by sadads, we quote the observation that "vocabularies needed for many collections, topics and intellectual spaces defy the expectations of the larger professional communities." A job for the encyclopedist, certainly. But the data-minded Wikimedian has the advantages of Wikidata, starting with its multilingual data, and facility with aliases. The controlled vocabulary — sometimes referred to as a "thesaurus" as term of art — simplifies search: if a "spade" must be called that, rather than "shovel", it is easier to find all spade references. That control comes at a cost.

SVG pedestrian crosses road
Zebra crossing/crosswalk, Singapore

Case studies in that article show what can lie ahead. The schema crosswalk, in jargon, is a potential answer to the GLAM Babel of proliferating and expanding vocabularies. Even if you have no interest in Wikidata as such, simply vocabularies V and W, if both V and W are matched to Wikidata, then a "crosswalk" arises from term v in V to w in W, whenever v and w both match to the same item d in Wikidata.

For metadata mobility, match to Wikidata. It's apparently that simple: infrastructure requirements have turned out, so far, to be challenges that can be met.

[edit]
To subscribe to Facto Post go to Wikipedia:Facto Post mailing list. For the ways to unsubscribe, see below.
Editor Charles Matthews, for ContentMine. Please leave feedback for him. Back numbers are here.
Reminder: WikiFactMine pages on Wikidata are at WD:WFM.
If you wish to receive no further issues of Facto Post, please remove your name from our mailing list. Alternatively, to opt out of all massmessage mailings, you may add Category:Wikipedians who opt out of message delivery to your user talk page.
Newsletter delivered by MediaWiki message delivery

MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 12:38, 15 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Oxford 58

[edit]

Hi, please see m:User talk:Pintoch#Oxford 58. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 23:08, 3 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Facto Post – Issue 9 – 5 February 2018

[edit]
Facto Post – Issue 9 – 5 February 2018
m:Grants:Project/ScienceSource is the new ContentMine proposal: please take a look.

Wikidata as Hub

[edit]

One way of looking at Wikidata relates it to the semantic web concept, around for about as long as Wikipedia, and realised in dozens of distributed Web institutions. It sees Wikidata as supplying central, encyclopedic coverage of linked structured data, and looks ahead to greater support for "federated queries" that draw together information from all parts of the emerging network of websites.

Another perspective might be likened to a photographic negative of that one: Wikidata as an already-functioning Web hub. Over half of its properties are identifiers on other websites. These are Wikidata's "external links", to use Wikipedia terminology: one type for the DOI of a publication, another for the VIAF page of an author, with thousands more such. Wikidata links out to sites that are not nominally part of the semantic web, effectively drawing them into a larger system. The crosswalk possibilities of the systematic construction of these links was covered in Issue 8.

Wikipedia:External links speaks of them as kept "minimal, meritable, and directly relevant to the article." Here Wikidata finds more of a function. On viaf.org one can type a VIAF author identifier into the search box, and find the author page. The Wikidata Resolver tool, these days including Open Street Map, Scholia etc., allows this kind of lookup. The hub tool by maxlath takes a major step further, allowing both lookup and crosswalk to be encoded in a single URL.

[edit]
To subscribe to Facto Post go to Wikipedia:Facto Post mailing list. For the ways to unsubscribe, see below.
Editor Charles Matthews, for ContentMine. Please leave feedback for him. Back numbers are here.
Reminder: WikiFactMine pages on Wikidata are at WD:WFM.
If you wish to receive no further issues of Facto Post, please remove your name from our mailing list. Alternatively, to opt out of all massmessage mailings, you may add Category:Wikipedians who opt out of message delivery to your user talk page.
Newsletter delivered by MediaWiki message delivery

MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 11:50, 5 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

A goat for you!

[edit]

Thank you for your data input

Whispyhistory (talk) 14:54, 25 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

[edit]
The Original Barnstar
Thank you for helping with Wikidata Whispyhistory (talk) 14:55, 25 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

batchrevert

[edit]

Hi. I saw your name as the owner of "batch revert" tool [6]. Is this something real? I'm loonging for a tool that will let me undo a bunch of edits which can be identified by username and edit summary, in Hebrew wikipedia. I've made something but it's not as roboust as I want it to be. Is batchrevert relevant? thanks. Please pine me in your reply so I'll know to look back here. Thanks Kotz (talk) 10:09, 1 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]


@Kotz: that was an initial draft for a tool that can be seen at https://tools.wmflabs.org/editgroups/ . Unfortunately it only works on Wikidata and only for edit batches made via tools that are compatible with it. If you have any ideas how to generalize this and make it more widely applicable, contributions are very welcome. − Pintoch (talk) 10:13, 1 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

ArbCom 2018 election voter message

[edit]

Hello, Pintoch. Voting in the 2018 Arbitration Committee elections is now open until 23.59 on Sunday, 3 December. All users who registered an account before Sunday, 28 October 2018, made at least 150 mainspace edits before Thursday, 1 November 2018 and are not currently blocked are eligible to vote. Users with alternate accounts may only vote once.

The Arbitration Committee is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Wikipedia arbitration process. It has the authority to impose binding solutions to disputes between editors, primarily for serious conduct disputes the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the authority to impose site bans, topic bans, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The arbitration policy describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail.

If you wish to participate in the 2018 election, please review the candidates and submit your choices on the voting page. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 18:42, 19 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Merry Christmas

[edit]

Redrose64 🌹 (talk) is wishing you a Merry Christmas! This greeting (and season) promotes WikiLove and hopefully this note has made your day a little better. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Happy New Year!

Spread the cheer by adding {{subst:Xmas6}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

--Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 12:40, 25 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Redrose64: many thanks, merry christmas to you too! Looking forward to many meetups next year! − Pintoch (talk) 16:45, 25 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Web browser ergonomics

[edit]

Greetings! When we met (quite a while ago now), I was impressed by your web browser. It seemed very ergonomic both for keyboard navigation and for editing text fields. I used to use ItsAllText! and Vimperator, but your setup seemed to go much further. I have been looking at Xombrero (if only it weren't apparently abandoned) and other options recently, but thought I should ping you for tips, if that's OK. (N.B. I also noticed that this help page is out of date, sadly.)

Would you be willing to remind me what you were using, either here or by emailing me with pointers? Thanks, and best wishes, Zazpot (talk) 17:50, 7 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Zazpot: Hi! I am flattered, but I don't think my setup is particularly advanced: I have only been using Vimperator / Pentadactyl when these extensions worked (before Firefox Quantum). Now I am using Vim Vixen, but I really would not recommend it - the prompt just does not work as expected, it's a big regression from Vimperator. It is quite sad and I would be keen to restore the behaviour of Vimperator. Unfortunately I have not found a solution yet, let me know if you find anything! − Pintoch (talk) 17:58, 7 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Pintoch: thanks for the info! I agree it's a pity about Quantum breaking those (and many other) addons. Ah well. When time allows, I hope to get around to trying out:
  • Vimium
  • withExEditor
  • GhostText
  • Edit with Emacs
  • Pale Moon or some other pre-Quantum fork, with ItsAllText! and Pentadactyl/Vimperator.
If I do find the time to compare them, I will try to remember to update you with my findings. Anyhow, cheers until next time, Zazpot (talk) 22:14, 7 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Notice of noticeboard discussion

[edit]

Information icon There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is "OAbot". Thank you. OhKayeSierra (talk) 06:11, 7 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

[edit]

Hi. Thank you for your recent edits. An automated process has detected that when you recently edited Mourant Ozannes, you added a link pointing to the disambiguation page State Street (check to confirm | fix with Dab solver). Such links are usually incorrect, since a disambiguation page is merely a list of unrelated topics with similar titles. (Read the FAQ • Join us at the DPL WikiProject.)

It's OK to remove this message. Also, to stop receiving these messages, follow these opt-out instructions. Thanks, DPL bot (talk) 07:50, 20 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Notice of ANI Discussion

[edit]

Information icon There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Request for block review. OhKayeSierra (talk) 01:45, 13 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! I replied there. − Pintoch (talk) 18:22, 13 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

ArbCom 2019 election voter message

[edit]
Hello! Voting in the 2019 Arbitration Committee elections is now open until 23:59 on Monday, 2 December 2019. All eligible users are allowed to vote. Users with alternate accounts may only vote once.

The Arbitration Committee is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Wikipedia arbitration process. It has the authority to impose binding solutions to disputes between editors, primarily for serious conduct disputes the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the authority to impose site bans, topic bans, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The arbitration policy describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail.

If you wish to participate in the 2019 election, please review the candidates and submit your choices on the voting page. If you no longer wish to receive these messages, you may add {{NoACEMM}} to your user talk page. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:15, 19 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

[edit]
The Brilliant Idea Barnstar
Dear Pintoch, Thanks a lot for replying on Madhu Verma. You shared that the profile is visible on pubic domain but its not available yet. I have checked it many times,even using different IP. Kindly help me understand. Nehamidha (talk) 14:55, 14 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Nehamidha: Hi! I am not sure how I can help - I have never edited this page. Are you referring to the edit made by User:OAbot there? Is there any problem with it? − Pintoch (talk) 22:01, 14 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Greetings

[edit]

Hello, I supported your proposal[7], which I see showed consensus. Thanks for proposing it. Do you know why it hasn't been implemented yet? Thanks. Biosthmors (talk) 17:59, 27 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Biosthmors: the proposal is implemented in the sandbox, I do not know how long it will take until it is deployed. Perhaps Trappist the monk could give you an estimate, as they are generally the one doing the transfer? − Pintoch (talk) 19:52, 27 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

ArbCom 2020 Elections voter message

[edit]
Hello! Voting in the 2020 Arbitration Committee elections is now open until 23:59 (UTC) on Monday, 7 December 2020. All eligible users are allowed to vote. Users with alternate accounts may only vote once.

The Arbitration Committee is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Wikipedia arbitration process. It has the authority to impose binding solutions to disputes between editors, primarily for serious conduct disputes the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the authority to impose site bans, topic bans, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The arbitration policy describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail.

If you wish to participate in the 2020 election, please review the candidates and submit your choices on the voting page. If you no longer wish to receive these messages, you may add {{NoACEMM}} to your user talk page. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 02:31, 24 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Feedback request: Wikipedia technical issues and templates request for comment

[edit]

Your feedback is requested at Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals) on a "Wikipedia technical issues and templates" request for comment. Thank you for helping out!
You were randomly selected to receive this invitation from the list of Feedback Request Service subscribers. If you'd like not to receive these messages any more, you can opt out at any time by removing your name.

Message delivered to you with love by Yapperbot :) | Is this wrong? Contact my bot operator. | Sent at 18:32, 16 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Feedback request: Wikipedia technical issues and templates request for comment

[edit]

Your feedback is requested at Template talk:Undisclosed paid on a "Wikipedia technical issues and templates" request for comment. Thank you for helping out!
You were randomly selected to receive this invitation from the list of Feedback Request Service subscribers. If you'd like not to receive these messages any more, you can opt out at any time by removing your name.

Message delivered to you with love by Yapperbot :) | Is this wrong? Contact my bot operator. | Sent at 05:02, 19 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Feedback request: Wikipedia technical issues and templates request for comment

[edit]

Your feedback is requested at Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals) on a "Wikipedia technical issues and templates" request for comment. Thank you for helping out!
You were randomly selected to receive this invitation from the list of Feedback Request Service subscribers. If you'd like not to receive these messages any more, you can opt out at any time by removing your name.

Message delivered to you with love by Yapperbot :) | Is this wrong? Contact my bot operator. | Sent at 08:31, 7 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

OABot

[edit]

Hi, I am probably missing something here, but OABot keeps making this change. It’s doing this on a journal that is definitely not open access. Do you know why? - Aussie Article Writer (talk) 16:55, 1 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Aussie Article Writer: oops, sorry about that! It must be an issue with Unpaywall or Dissemin… Perhaps Nemo bis is interested in investigating this? Otherwise I would recommend you just ban OAbot from this article using the {{bots|deny=OAbot}} markup. − Pintoch (talk) 18:35, 1 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
All good, thanks! - Aussie Article Writer (talk) 21:22, 1 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Feedback request: Wikipedia technical issues and templates request for comment

[edit]

Your feedback is requested at Template talk:Infobox comics character on a "Wikipedia technical issues and templates" request for comment. Thank you for helping out!
You were randomly selected to receive this invitation from the list of Feedback Request Service subscribers. If you'd like not to receive these messages any more, you can opt out at any time by removing your name.

Message delivered to you with love by Yapperbot :) | Is this wrong? Contact my bot operator. | Sent at 01:30, 3 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Feedback request: Wikipedia technical issues and templates request for comment

[edit]

Your feedback is requested at Talk:Joseph Stalin on a "Wikipedia technical issues and templates" request for comment. Thank you for helping out!
You were randomly selected to receive this invitation from the list of Feedback Request Service subscribers. If you'd like not to receive these messages any more, you can opt out at any time by removing your name.

Message delivered to you with love by Yapperbot :) | Is this wrong? Contact my bot operator. | Sent at 00:30, 23 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

ArbCom 2021 Elections voter message

[edit]
Hello! Voting in the 2021 Arbitration Committee elections is now open until 23:59 (UTC) on Monday, 6 December 2021. All eligible users are allowed to vote. Users with alternate accounts may only vote once.

The Arbitration Committee is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Wikipedia arbitration process. It has the authority to impose binding solutions to disputes between editors, primarily for serious conduct disputes the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the authority to impose site bans, topic bans, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The arbitration policy describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail.

If you wish to participate in the 2021 election, please review the candidates and submit your choices on the voting page. If you no longer wish to receive these messages, you may add {{NoACEMM}} to your user talk page. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:35, 23 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Merry Christmas

[edit]
File:Christmas tree in field.jpg Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2022!!

Hello Pintoch, warm wishes to you and your family throughout the holiday season. I hope you are well. Whispyhistory (talk) 07:11, 24 December 2021 (UTC) [reply]

Hello Whispyhistory, thank you so much! It is very nice to hear from you :) I wish you a very happy break and hope your work is not too hectic because of the pandemic! − Pintoch (talk) 09:03, 24 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

ArbCom 2022 Elections voter message

[edit]

Hello! Voting in the 2022 Arbitration Committee elections is now open until 23:59 (UTC) on Monday, 12 December 2022. All eligible users are allowed to vote. Users with alternate accounts may only vote once.

The Arbitration Committee is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Wikipedia arbitration process. It has the authority to impose binding solutions to disputes between editors, primarily for serious conduct disputes the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the authority to impose site bans, topic bans, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The arbitration policy describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail.

If you wish to participate in the 2022 election, please review the candidates and submit your choices on the voting page. If you no longer wish to receive these messages, you may add {{NoACEMM}} to your user talk page. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 01:09, 29 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

OABot 503's

[edit]

Does the server need a kick in the butt or something? Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 17:43, 2 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Headbomb: I'm not sure! I tried today and it seemed like it was working fine. Nemo bis is the current maintainer of the tool and might have more insights. − Pintoch (talk) 21:51, 1 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Pintoch Nemo bis gave the code a spitshine a few days after my message. Something about it needing Python 3. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 23:07, 1 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

MemberBot

[edit]

Could you run MemberBot on Wikipedia:WikiProject Cryptography#Participants again? It's been about 10 years since the last (labeled) update. WhatamIdoing (talk) 02:42, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Retrieved from "https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Pintoch&oldid=1211148804"