User talk:Piecraft/Dieselpunk

Are there any notable works that have been explicitly published as Dieselpunk? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.48.231.12 (talk)

Also, the lists of films and games could use some explanation for each choice. What exactly makes Charlie and the Chocolate Factory or Dr. Strangelove dieselpunk? Besides that, I'd suggest Sonic the Hedgehog as another possible candidate; maybe some of the games too. 68.44.13.236 05:48, 13 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm well you are right Sonic and Megman in some ways could be dieselpunk. But the reason why Charlie and the Chocolate Factory or Dr. Strangelove are listed under dieselpunk is because they share partiuclar themes of the dieselpunk mentality... On hind-sight the list needs to properly be ammended, I merely saved this article to be implemented at a later stage when dieselpunk becomes more prominent. But I do agree perhaps eliminating movies which simply share a common theme i.e. Strangelove's theme of WW3/Nuclear War and a post-apocalypse whilst Charlie and the Chocolate Factory possesses elements of the dieselpunk neo-50s technology... Piecraft 13:59, 19 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think Atomicpunk is being mislabeled...It shouldn't be in this thread, everything here is Dieselpunk...Dark City, The Rocketeer, The Shadow, Dick Tracy, Sky Captain and the other "futuristic 30s and 40s media are Dieselpunk. Atomicpunk should be set in the 50s with the use and misuse of Atomicpower...and the giant bug movies of the time, and greasers, and kids in Letterman jackets being led astray by bad influences. Plus the Red scare, thats all about fear of Nuclear missiles and Communists!

I think the term "punk" is misleading. I always thougt that the term "punk" means that the setting is in a world full of chaos and anarchy. Also if you look at the examples of books, games etc. for dieselpunk and atomicpunk, it overlaps very often with cyberpunk and steampunk. Examples: Fallout, Battle Angel Alita are very cleary cyberpunk.

The miniseries Tin Man which recently aired on the SciFi network is a good candidate the dieselpunk label, in my opinion. - Wyvern —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.255.21.103 (talk) 05:35, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

the term "punk" in these context (Steampunk, Cyberpunk etc) refers to the youthful rebelliousness: thumbing one's nose at historical accuracy and taking liberties with portrayals. THat's all. Punk is not specifically about anarchy and chaos, its about bucking establishment. In these contexts, the "bucking" is playing around with the timeline of technology and social movement. Smibbo (talk) 05:17, 13 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Needs a clean perspective

This article was written two years ago when the genre was still highly vague and unknown, it does require a new set of eyes and perhaps a large portion re-editind. As you have stated some of the films and other forms of literature and media could probably be eliminated. Piecraft 09:53, 4 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think it needs to be pointed out that Tim Burton's adaptation of Batman is not dieselpunk or atomicpunk in any way ShadowGuardian —Preceding comment was added at 12:38, 8 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think the article is conflating dieselpunk (1920's up to 1950's) with atompunk (1950s and onwards). They are nascent genres, probably not yet worthy of Wikipedia inclusion, but also distinct. Crimson Skies (an RPG) is arguably dieselpunk. The Fallout series (a videogame) is more atompunk (if post-apocalyptic). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.51.44.36 (talk) 05:03, 9 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The user name should be removed from the header of this article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.68.24.159 (talk) 10:54, 21 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

A Series of Unfortunate Events is by Lemony Snicket, even if his real name is Daniel Handler, or am I missing some WP convention?Anonnymos (talk) 11:35, 24 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]