User talk:PianoKing

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Your article Draft:Characteristics_of_Lyric_Bass_Baritone_(Voice_type_in_Fach_System)

PianoKing, I just tagged that article. It has no sources whatsoever. You'll need to add in sources to show where you're getting your information from, it's not enough to indicate in the title that it's from the Fach system , you'll need to cite in the article , either a web page or the page of the book where your information is coming from. I'm a musician myself, so I understand you probably know this information by memory, but in Wikipedia, a source is required, please add them in.
I've taken the liberty of moving your article into Draft space so that you'll have a space to work on your article in. In the Draft area, articles may be constructed there, and once they're ready, they can be easily moved into article space. KoshVorlon} 15:11, 18 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I saw that you added links at the end of the article - thank you! However, the two links you've added aren't reliable sources, the first one is Wikipedia itself, and Wikipedia can't be used as a reliable source in an article. Yes, I know, confusing as hell, because to have an article you need to have reliable sources, so it goes without saying, Wikipedia should be a reliable source, but it isn't. So that source won't work.

The second source you've used is a blog, and it too won't work. Why not take a look at WP:RS for a bit more guidance on reliable sources.

Also, where you placed your sources isn't quite right, why not take a look at Voice_type to see what I mean. More precisely, look at the first paragraph:

A voice type is a particular human singing voice identified as having certain qualities or characteristics of vocal range, vocal weight, tessitura, vocal timbre, and vocal transition points (passaggio), such as breaks and lifts within the voice. Other considerations are physical characteristics, speech level, scientific testing, and vocal register.^[1] Notice that "1" that appears in the text, that's more like what we're looking for. That particular source is a book, with the title, author and page number included.

This section, describing contra-alto cites a web page:

Contralto range: The contralto voice is the lowest female voice. A true operatic contralto is rare,^[2] Go ahead and edit this message to see how both are done. The main idea is that if you make a claim (like a specific range is from this note to that note ) you'll need to have a reliable source referenced like in the two above examples.

KoshVorlon} 16:00, 18 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

This isn't ready yet

PianoKing, Your article isn't ready yet. The items I mentioned to you above haven't been changed, and as such, this isn't yet suitable for article space. I'm going to move the article back into draft space. To recap:
Sources - Your article lacks reliable sources - you can't use Wikipedia to source wikipedia, nor can you use a blog. Both of your sources, (other than the Wikipedia soures) appear to be blogs, and therefore they are not reliable sources.
Cites - You don't cite your sources - I gave you an article and two examples above. You didn't use either method to source your article

Without those two things, your submission isn't suitable for article space. Sorry. KoshVorlon 19:23, 20 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:Characteristics of Lyric Bass Baritone (Voice type in Fach System)

Hello, PianoKing. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Characteristics of Lyric Bass Baritone".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been nominated for deletion. If you plan on working on it further, or editing it to address the issues raised if it was declined, simply edit the submission and remove the {{db-afc}} or {{db-g13}} code.

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Legacypac (talk) 04:57, 26 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

^ Shewan, Robert (January–February 1979). "Voice Classification: An Examination of Methodology". The NATS Bulletin. 35: 17–27.
^ Myers, Eric, "Sweet and Low: The case of the vanishing contralto, Opera News, December 1996.

[Shewan-1] Shewan, Robert (January–February 1979). "Voice Classification: An Examination of Methodology". The NATS Bulletin. 35: 17–27.

[2] Myers, Eric, "Sweet and Low: The case of the vanishing contralto, Opera News, December 1996.

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