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No, the edit was correct. I have now repeated the edit with a more explanatory edit summary. Phleg1 (talk) 19:31, 6 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Sacred Cod

Thanks much for this [1]. I'm ignorant of Massachusetts political history, and all I could get on Google was Lincoln-Douglas. I hope you enjoyed the article -- at least this proves someone read most of it, which I sometimes wonder about. EEng (talk) 12:26, 27 January 2015 (UTC) P.S. Since you cite the Harvard Grudates' Magazine, perhaps you'll enjoy Lionel de Jersey Harvard.[reply]

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Do you have a source for your changes?--Yankees10 23:54, 28 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Certainly. Added. --Phleg1 (talk) 00:33, 29 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Pittsburgh newspapers

Thank you for filling out the sources on e. g. Frank Wall and providing the timeline. Looks like between Pittsburgh and Nashville there is a lot of work to do to parse which paper is which. Cake (talk) 07:10, 2 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Ammon Field

That seems to have been the most commonly-used name for this ballpark. Thank you for filling in the info about Mr. Ammon. The plaque unfortunately says "Ammons Field" which would imply the guy's name was Ammons. But it appears that the proper designation would be Ammon's Field (possessive rather than plural.) Probably too late to change the plaque. But at least the ballpark article seems correct now. Thanks for your efforts. :) ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 21:52, 14 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

And it's worth mentioning that in checking newspapers.com (a pay site), the term Ammon Field (or Ammon field) is used frequently, while I only found a handful of occurrences of Ammons. The city directories of the 1930s called it Ammon Playground. Again, no trailing S. You probably knew all of this already. :) ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 21:55, 14 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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I see you've been active in this area for some time, but I'd invite you to add your name to the list and perhaps slap a template on your user page so we can more clearly find you when we have events in the Pittsburgh area. Be advised there's also a user group on Meta. Thanks, again, for your editing. Chris Troutman (talk) 20:21, 26 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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William A. Nimick

Hi - could you give me some insight on what you've been able to determine about William A. Nimick and Pirates ownership? There's no link to view content associated with the Total Baseball citation you added, else I would review it directly. The Pittsburgh Pirates Encyclopedia: Second Edition (link) has an explicit list of owners. Looking to understand what you're found that leads to favoring one over the other. Thanks. Dmoore5556 (talk) 20:10, 4 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I made a mistake leaving the Total Baseball citation in there after changing "majority owner" to "part owner". The reference doesn't support either claim (though it does list presidents). In a previous revision, my reference for Nimick being part-owner was the Pittsburgh Post obituary of 1907.

Other newspaper sources that I have also cited state that Nimick was a part (not the sole or majority) owner. I guess we could also include Finoli/Rainer's contradictory view that Nimick was "the" owner, but it's not clear to me why F&R use an 1887 start date for Nimick's ownership -- is it because they think he didn't own the AA club before that, or because only the club's NL years (1887-) are included in their list?

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Thanks. After looking at the contemporary sources cited on the Nimick page, along with other contemporary reports I've found via newspapers.com, I agree there's no support (at least found so far) for him being sole/majority/controlling owner. The contemporary articles "His Name Is Knell" and "Magnate Nimick Retires" both have him owning a 25% share. In contrast, Finoli/Rainer is very recent (2015 for the second edition; the first edition was 2003 but I don't know what that one says). Regarding the 1887 start date, it does look like they are only considering the NL history of the franchise (he "brought the team from the old American Association", it reads in part). My thought at this point is to add a Note to the article, along the lines of "Some modern sources position Nimick as a majority owner of the team; however, contemporary sources indicate he owned a 25% interest in the team." That sound ok? Thanks. Dmoore5556 (talk) 20:50, 5 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, something along those lines would be a good way to deal with the matter. Thanks. --Phleg1 (talk) 05:23, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Phleg1!

Hey, thanks for your edit to Regina Ip. I wanted to ask you though - why don't you have a user page? You seem REALLY active on /wiki/, so I was just kinda curious. Hope you're doing great!

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Well, I guess I just haven't gotten around to it yet. Not a great answer, but there it is. Maybe someday, some year. Phleg1 (talk) 15:28, 20 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I would advise making at least a token page, because edits by people without them often get extra scrutiny, because rookie vandals don't usually bother to make one. Oh, and thanks for the info on Edward D. Gazzam, I changed the death date. I don't have a newspapers.com subscription so I had missed the Inquirer article. Brianyoumans (talk) 20:54, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Sally Conforte's Filmography

Death Dimension aka Freeze Bomb? Stupendous! I know a lot about the Confortes but this tidbit you've uncovered eluded me. I know someone who was there and remembers details of the shoot in and around Reno, Nevada and the Mustang Ranch. How did you know this? And thanks for your contribution!Owilli2019 (talk) 23:56, 17 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your appreciation. I had heard of neither Sally Conforte nor Death Dimension before stumbling upon a strange redirect and doing some research. Thanks as well for creating the Joe and Sally Conforte pages, which I'm surprised were missing for so long. —T. Cadwallader Phloog (talk) 04:45, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Recreation Park (Pittsburgh)

Regarding this: [2] Good catch! I got the info from Newspapers.com, which labeled it as the Post-Gazette, but upon re-checking, the original banner does indeed say Commercial Gazette. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 14:57, 19 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I suspected that's what had happened. Newspapers.com is woefully inaccurate with its title labels, as I complained about long ago at Wikipedia talk:Newspapers.com/Archive 1#Inaccurate newspaper names. —T. Cadwallader Phloog (talk) 16:15, 19 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

They've also been known to get dates wildly wrong. I would blame that on their text interpreter. But they're better than nothing. Say, what's your opinion on using snippets from Newspapers.com (older than 1926) to illustrate articles? ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 22:32, 19 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

They botch a lot of page numbers too, especially when each section of the paper has its own numbering. It's a useful resource nonetheless.

I don't think there's a problem with using pre-1926 snippets to illustrate articles. The snippets would be PD in the US, since Newspapers.com scans add no original authorship. And as long as one doesn't copy large portions of the site (such as with crawlers/spiders) then one isn't violating compilation copyright.

Newspapers.com itself seems to be OK with uploads to Commons as long as they're not bulk uploads (see Wikipedia talk:Newspapers.com/Archive 1#Pre-1923_pictures).

—T. Cadwallader Phloog (talk) 15:11, 20 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, excellent. Thank you for finding that. (I think 1926 is now the cutoff year.) The quality of pictures on Newspapers.com isn't too great anyway. And although the link probably only works if one is a subscriber to Newspapers.com, it's a source anyway, and also free advertising for them. Seems like everybody should be happy! ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 05:22, 21 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I tried this approach for File:Parkway_Field_1923_Aug_15.jpg. Do you think I've got enough info there? ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 06:31, 22 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

You may want to consider linking to a clipping (e.g., [3]) since clippings are accessible by anyone, even without a Newspapers.com account. The full page can still be accessed from within the clipping (even by non-subcribers, I think). Otherwise looks good. Nice find, by the way. —T. Cadwallader Phloog (talk) 14:36, 22 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the advice on clippings, and for checking it out! I've got a number of old ballpark pics that I plan to use this way, but I wanted to try just one and see if anybody gets bent out of shape over it. I would be concentrating on parks where no photo exists in an article. One thing I've found is that in the 1890s, newspapers started using engravings as pictures (as with the Recreation Park picture), while starting around 1900 they were technologically able to post actual photographs. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 20:49, 22 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Could you check and see if you can get to https://www.newspapers.com/clip/55830287/the-courier-journal/ without needing a logon? FYI, the clipping was done by another user, not me. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 21:25, 22 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I was able to access the clipping without logging in. From the clipping page I was then able to access the full page, also without logging in. But whenever Wikipedia or Commons links directly to a full page (not a clipping), I have to be logged in to view it. —T. Cadwallader Phloog (talk) 13:04, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

If you log in and check the search link I posted for that picture, can you see the user name who posted the original query? I'm asking because it's different from my username here, and I don't need it to be spread around. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 14:14, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

No, when I follow your link I can't see who made the query. I can see all of the clippings on the page along with the usernames of the clippers, but unless you're one of those clippers, your username is nowhere on the page. —T. Cadwallader Phloog (talk) 17:39, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Very good. Thank you for all your help! P.S. No, I didn't clip it, someone else did. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 17:42, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Good job on your contributions to the Pittsburgh Yellow Jackets page. I was always interested in that team, but info was pretty scarce on them. So kudos on your research.Giantdevilfish (talk) 13:53, 1 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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I appreciate your correction to the Charles Lively article footnote. Evidently there is some kind of bug at Newspapers.com that gives the incorrect name of the newspaper in question. Your vigilance is greatly appreciated, and I wonder how many other footnotes are incorrect in naming the newspapers. Figureofnine (talk • contribs) 20:57, 10 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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