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Content about living people requires reliable sources

I have again reverted your edit to Naomi Wolf. The link that you provided does not meet the requirements for sourcing - a strong reputation for fact checking, accuracy and editorial oversight. In addition, the link provides THREE people with the same name and so there is no indication that the Naomi Wolf whose date you added to the article is actually the Naomi Wolf that is referred to in the article.

The strongest of sources and validity are required for content about living people. Please stop edit warring or you will be blocked. -- The Red Pen of Doom 03:48, 4 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

you obviously didn't check the link, there is only ONE naomi wolf (me) listed there. please don't remove it, thank you Peyuti (talk) 06:08, 4 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Peyuti. We welcome your contributions to Wikipedia, but if you are affiliated with some of the people, places or things you have written about on Wikipedia, you may need to consider our guidance on conflicts of interest.

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For information on how to contribute to Wikipedia when you have a conflict of interest, please see our frequently asked questions for organizations. Thank you. -- The Red Pen of Doom 11:05, 4 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I know you think its ridiculous, but every day we have accounts claiming they are the person and so until you verify this account is in fact the person you claim to be, we need to have the content verified by a reliable source. I am requiring that because even in the recent past we have had two different birth dates that people have added to the article, both of which contradict some basic math (a source that said "she was X when she released book Y" and tracking back, that would have led to a third date). Therefore we need a reliable source to confirm any date added to the article. -- The Red Pen of Doom 15:13, 4 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

to verify your identity, follow the instructions here: WP:AUTOPROB. DO NOT continue to edit war or you will be blocked. -- The Red Pen of Doom 15:16, 4 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

ok listen, this is real simple. i graduated in 1984, most people graduate college at 21 or 22, and you implied i was born in 1965 or 1969, this is silly and/or dishonest on your part. my birthday is november 12, therefore equaling 11.12.62. on top of that i included a very reliable source (the california birth index) which shows you right there what my DOB is. i hope you understand and don't remove this accurate information AGAIN, thanks so much, naomi. Peyuti (talk) 15:28, 4 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I know that you know the facts about your life. However, all I know is that some account created without any verification needed is claiming that the dates and numbers they are providing are personal information about a living person. In order for the content to be included in the article, we need to have it presented by a reliable source with a reputation for fact checking and accuracy, and being able to confirm that the information is indeed about the subject of the article as based solely on the content in the source and no interpretation. If you have some other source or interview that supports a particular date, and meets the reliable source requirements you can add it. Until then, we do not include the information in the article. -- The Red Pen of Doom 15:45, 4 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I encourage you to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard#Naomi_Wolf_and_User_talk:Peyuti -- The Red Pen of Doom 16:22, 4 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

i just want to get this straight, who is the "we" you mention when you say "we do not include the information in the article"? why do you get to decide to remove accurate cited info from an article? i will say this again, PLEASE DON'T REMOVE THE CORRECT INFO FROM THE ARTICLE. what don't you understand about this? and besides you violated the 3R rule of wikipedia so you should be banned already and not allowed to remove any accurate info from an article. Peyuti (talk) 16:35, 4 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

"we" is wikipedia editors. removal of improperly sourced personal information about a living person is NOT subject to the "edit war" blocking; however insertion of inappropriately sourced material is. see WP:NOT3RR item number #7. You need to stop edit warring and provide an actual reliable source. -- The Red Pen of Doom 16:56, 4 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

October 2012

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. You appear to be engaged in an edit war with one or more editors according to your reverts at Naomi Wolf. Although repeatedly reverting or undoing another editor's contributions may seem necessary to protect your preferred version of a page, on Wikipedia this is usually seen as obstructing the normal editing process, and often creates animosity between editors. Instead of edit warring, please try to reach a consensus on the talk page.

If editors continue to revert to their preferred version they are likely to be blocked from editing. This isn't done to punish an editor, but to prevent the disruption caused by edit warring. In particular, editors should be aware of the three-revert rule, which says that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. While edit warring on Wikipedia is not acceptable in any amount, breaking the three-revert rule is very likely to lead to a block. Thank you. --v/r Electric Catfish (talk) 18:05, 4 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

If you are actually Naomi Wolf, please email Wikipedia's Open-Ticket Response Service. Wikipedia has strict rules regarding Biographies of Living Persons. We generally require (as per Wikipedia's verification policy) that all material that is likely to be challenged needs to be supported by a reliable source. That policy is followed in Naomi Wolf. Again, OTRS is a better venue. Additionally, if you continue to edit war, you will be blocked from editing. Please follow the instructions at WP: FEFS and email info-en-q@wikimedia.org. Thank you for your cooperation. --v/r Electric Catfish (talk) 18:18, 4 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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