User talk:Panderoona/Archive 2

This is an archive of past discussions with User:Panderoona. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page.

Archive 1

Archive 2

Folk tales of Lincs

I have been reading Folk-lore, the journal of the Folklore Society. It takes some trawling through the various volumes but there are quite a few entries for Lincolnshire topics, some of which are trivial in a WP context, eg: this, and others that may have some useful bearing.

If you are prepared to trawl through the "content" pages of each volume then the full list of those available at www.archive.org is here. It would keep you busy for a few days! - Sitush (talk) 08:16, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

Another. - Sitush (talk) 08:28, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

... and regarding which there are some follow-ups. - Sitush (talk) 08:34, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Si, that sounds quite interesting :) Panderoona (talk) 11:36, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

Stamford bull-running. I can't recall if Stamford is in Lincs or Notts (have the feeling that it has moved from one to the other sometime in the past but can't be bothered checking the relevant article). - Sitush (talk) 17:19, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

Youre right only I think it moved from Nthants to Lincs and back a few times. Its right on the border.Panderoona (talk) 23:54, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

{http://www.archive.org/stream/folklore28folkuoft#page/n7/mode/2up Another] that I have stumbled across. - Sitush (talk) 12:08, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

Archiving

I think that it is all fixed now. The bot should archive automatically in future, which avoids any mistakes of the user variety. Just give it a while to kick in for the first time. :) Sitush (talk) 15:14, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

Thank you!! I have been terrified of this for some time. I hope it all works out all right :) Panderoona (talk) 15:32, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

It did. I'm good like that :) Sitush (talk) 18:21, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

huge sigh of relief!! thanks again Sitush :) Panderoona (talk) 18:29, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

I don't seem to be able to get into your archives through clicking "1" unless I go to "View history". I don't know if this is a bot thing settling in, but you should be able to see the previous edits by clicking the number. Acabashi (talk) 20:46, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

HHHHmmm same problem. Hope it sorts itself, Ill give it a couple of days to settle down? Panderoona (talk) 20:57, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

After I added the code, (at the top of my page in edit mode) once it archived I could see earlier edits by clicking the number. Perhaps it's something to do with differing codes. Acabashi (talk) 21:28, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

Wilsthorpe, Lincolnshire

Here's a good one when you get to it - an absolute hoot - look at the history - with no subsequent editors picking-up on the waffley nonsense. I think here is a good one for you to sharpen your teeth regards brutal editing - anything you do wouldn't be faulted :)

Annoyingly my laptop now cuts-out through overheating when rendering my new high def vids of Brothertoft, Frampton, Gedney, Spalding and Crowland - a bit peed-off. Acabashi (talk) 23:06, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

you have vid of Brothertoft? Id like to see that, mind you with my old pc I might have to wait to view it at my parents house they have much newer pc. Panderoona (talk) 00:57, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

that write up is a complete steal from this site. Ill have a go at a re-write.Panderoona (talk) 01:20, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

James Fowler

Hi again - if you come across, or add, this guy in the articles you can now bluelink him. Acabashi (talk) 16:18, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

great job there Acabashi :) Panderoona (talk) 07:20, 13 August 2011 (UTC)

Hareby

I've been having a prob with a few articles over the common mention of greenstone for churches, the right word to add because it's mentioned in sources. I'm not very up on rocks, but it seems the closest it disambigs to is Greenschist.

With Kettlethorpe it's interesting how a reputable source can be unclear: "The moat... is the remnant of the manor [,] held by the Swynford family in the later 14th and 15th centuries" - does Pastscape mean that the moat and manor (thereby possibly the Hall) originated with the Swynford family in the C14-C15, or that it is older with the Swynfords coming later - I've chosen the latter as the manor could mean either or both building and land, and the manor (land) was probably around pre-C14.. Pevsner indicates a C14 origin for the Swynford hall but doesn't directly link the Hall to the moat earthworks, which could therefore be interpreted as earlier. For clarity it would all hinge on the one comma [shown] (or the lack of it) setting the subject of the sentence, and permutations with the substitution (or not) of "held by" with "built by", or the removal (or not) of "later"- but perhaps Pastscape and Pevsner are choosing to cover options. This why I ruminate over articles trying to get the sense/syntax right, and when you have sources that are unclear it doesn't help :) Acabashi (talk) 10:49, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

Hmmmm, I may be wrong, but I thought greenstone was green sandstone....? Im not sure where I picked that titbit up from, might hark back to school or could be later. I wouldnt like to say I was 100% sure Im accurate, which is why I point that out. With regard to the other question, I too sometimes am confused by what is written in the sites we use, and I then wonder how to word the article. You may have noticed my absence over the past couple of days in actual editing - this is because I was deliberating on Thonock - there is, it would appear, nothing much more there now than a golf course. But it does have a history, and like you, I sat back for a bit and thought about it. I have now just posted the article, and if you want to have a look and make suggestions/alterations they'd be welcome. I wouldnt like to say about the Swynford manor as I am as uncertain as you on that one. Panderoona (talk) 10:55, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

Green sandstone is a disambig as is Greenschist which mentions greenstone. Can't find much on Thonock, but it had a hall: [1] - if you want to add it there is a little bit on it in Kelly's. Looking at the hall link the site looks quite useful for pics for some Lincs places - just added one to Tealby and Hagnaby. Acabashi (talk) 11:55, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

Do you know Ive seen that site before, but never took the pix as I didnt know if I could? Panderoona (talk) 12:13, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

If the pics are over 70 years old they should be OK. We are not allowed to link to sites that themselves might violate someone else's copyright, but the stuff here looks OK to me. If the pics are the property of the guy who runs the site he is not making any copyright claims on them "if they are from my collection" as he says: [2] - I think what he means here is that some of his links are external so he can't give any permission for those to be taken and reused. He is "happy to share my research and images" which I think he means letting others have actual copies, but we would only want to link. And it is not a commercial listing, advertising or selling site, re WP:LINKSTOAVOID. One thing to consider is link rot; is the site likely to go down? But we find loads of links that are dead, and this site has been around since 2004. [3] Another is do we trust the site as being truthful - unless he's doctored the pics, and why should he, pics are pics. Acabashi (talk) 13:51, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

Certainly looks like someone who wants to record the facts to me. I havent seen any wild claims anywhere so far, so I trust that site. Panderoona (talk) 19:42, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

BTW, your archive still doesn't automatically show - have to go to history. It should be OK by now but it's not. There has to be a problem. Acabashi (talk) 08:22, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

Oh dear, who do you think I should go to to ask for help? Ive no idea why its doing it? - thanks for alerting me. Panderoona (talk) 09:34, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

Perhaps Sitush could sort it out. You are cutting it fine with Tydd Gote being in Cambs as well :) Acabashi (talk) 15:57, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

well according to the piece I read its "partly" in Lincolnshire ;) Panderoona (talk) 21:09, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

I know, it's split - how do we get round that - do we add it to the Cambs civ parish it's in as well ? :) Acabashi (talk) 23:08, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

ooo I didnt think about that. Does Cambs have a similar WikiProject by the way? Panderoona (talk) 02:09, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

Ive had a look at Tydd St Giles page, it was kind of mentioned (uncited) so I did a little editing and now its referenced on both pages with links to Vision of Britain pages showing how its in both parishes. The only thing Im not sure of is how on earth you can redirect "Tydd Gote" to two pages? if its not possible to do both, I suggest leaving it as it is, as its blue linked to Tydd St Giles from the Tydd St Mary page? Panderoona (talk) 02:30, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

I suppose a Tydd Gote in a "see also" blue link in both articles might help - which I now see you have done :] Computer going down - severe overheating probs so I might be off-line a lot for a bit while repairing - running on batteries. Acabashi (talk) 12:12, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

Oh dear, I hope you can repair it. I shall miss your company on the Lincs Villages. I am slowly getting a little bit more confident so if I get to the end I shall go back to where you were and have a go at doing what youre doing until you come back. Panderoona (talk) 15:31, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

South Holland

Hi, please note that South Holland is in the Netherlands - the English district council is South Holland, Lincolnshire. I have fixed one of your recent edits, but have not checked for other cases. --Redrose64 (talk) 11:06, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

Woops - thank you Redrose64, I hadnt realised. There will be loads of them Id better go and check. Panderoona (talk) 15:25, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

New Page Patrol survey

New page patrol – Survey Invitation

Hello Panderoona! The WMF is currently developing new tools to make new page patrolling much easier. Whether you have patrolled many pages or only a few, we now need to know about your experience. The survey takes only 6 minutes, and the information you provide will not be shared with third parties other than to assist us in analyzing the results of the survey; the WMF will not use the information to identify you.

If this invitation also appears on other accounts you may have, please complete the survey once only.
If this has been sent to you in error and you have never patrolled new pages, please ignore it.

Please click HERE to take part.
Many thanks in advance for providing this essential feedback.

You are receiving this invitation because you have patrolled new pages. For more information, please see NPP Survey. Global message delivery 12:42, 26 October 2011 (UTC)