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What doesn't make sense about "The IND Eighth Avenue Line (A C) has stations at..."? --NE2 22:19, 18 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The same would apply to any of the infoboxes on any of the subway station articles. For example, 34th Street–Penn Station (IRT Broadway–Seventh Avenue Line) says "Services 1 2 3(1234)", not "Services 1, 2, and 3(1234)". But these have been this way for a long time. There is also an issue with updating when services change. When the G is extended, someone will have to find all the articles that talk about the stations that it will newly serve; this is not necessary if the templates are used. --NE2 22:26, 18 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Hey there, PCH. I noticed that you questioned on of NE2's edits on bolding/unbolding subway links, according to a thread at WT:NYCPT. I have opened up an RFC for him, hoping to correct his actions on consensus-breaching and questionable edits. Please feel free to leave any opinions on the RFC page. Have a good day! --Imdanumber1 (talk contribs) 12:53, 24 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Is there a tutorial for it? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Error46146 (talkcontribs) 23:57, 16 April 2007 (UTC).[reply]

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I notice that you have edited lists of bus routes recently. You might be interested in helping with the new WikiProject buses, especially the proposed Bus route list guide. We are also working out when a bus route should have its own article and other issues. --NE2 15:38, 25 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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As a courtesy I am just letting you know that I replaced your picture of that subway station with one I took[1], since I felt I had taken a better-quality image. I hope you don't mind and thanks for answering my query about Marble Hill. Daniel Case 18:34, 10 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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If you edit your signature using Special:Preferences and change the tag </font color> to </font> that should cure the problem. -=# Amos E Wolfe talk #=- 17:33, 30 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Okay, fair enough. Considering the massive size of Jamaica station, it's easy to assume bus stops for both subway stations connect to the LIRR station. ---- DanTD 23:27, 7 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]



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