User talk:PDH30216

July 2017

To Wikipedia Editors: My posts are per Section 3.3: Posting as Self-Source; please read Section 3.3 prior to editing or deletion; please come to understand your own rules. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.47.209.62 (talk) 00:59, 7 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I'm Diannaa. I noticed that you made a change to an article, Baby Driver, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so! If you need guidance on referencing, please see the referencing for beginners tutorial, or if you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 21:25, 1 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not add or significantly change content without citing verifiable and reliable sources, as you did with this edit to Baby Driver. Before making any potentially controversial edits, it is recommended that you discuss them first on the article's talk page. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. IronGargoyle (talk) 21:37, 1 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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20:02, 2 July 2017 (UTC)

Welcome!

Hello, PDH30216, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Unfortunately, one or more of your recent edits to the page Baby Driver have not conformed to Wikipedia's verifiability policy, and has been or will be removed. Wikipedia articles should refer only to facts and interpretations that have been stated in print or on reputable websites or in other media. Always remember to provide a reliable source for quotations and for any material that is likely to be challenged, or it may be removed. Wikipedia also has a related policy against including original research in articles. Additionally, all new biographies of living people must contain at least one reliable source.

If you are stuck and looking for help, please see the guide for citing sources or come to the new contributors' help page, where experienced Wikipedians can answer any queries you have! Here are a few other good links for newcomers:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask a question on your talk page. Again, welcome. Shearonink (talk) 01:24, 7 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Adding references can be easy

Hello! Here's how to add references from reliable sources for the content you add to Wikipedia. This helps maintain the Wikipedia policy of verifiability.

Adding well formatted references is actually quite easy:

While editing any article or a wikipage, on the top of the edit window you will see a toolbar which says "Cite". Click on it.
Then click on "Templates".
Choose the most appropriate template and fill in as many details as you can. This will add a well formatted reference that is helpful in case the web URL (or "website link") becomes inactive in the future.
Click on Preview when you're done filling out the 'Cite (web/news/book/journal)' to make sure that the reference is correct.
Click on Insert to insert the reference into your editing window content.
Click on Show preview to Preview all your editing changes.

Before clicking on Save page, check that a References header ==References== is near the end of the article.
And check that {{Reflist}} is directly underneath that header.

7. Click on Save page. ...and you've just added a complete reference to a Wikipedia article.

You can read more about this on Help:Edit toolbar or see this video File:RefTools.ogv.
Hope this helps, --Shearonink (talk) 01:30, 7 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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This message was delivered by Shearonink (talk) 01:30, 7 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Please read Section 3.3 Posting As Self-Source [I have moved this discussion from my talkpage, this particular user talk is where it belongs]

Please read Section 3.3 Posting As Self-Source

My post meets the requirements described ion Section 3.3 for Posting as self-source. Please read Section 3.3 carefully.

Sincerely, pdh

PDH (talk) 02:09, 7 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

You are wrong.

First, take a look at all the helps and posts that have been posted on your own talkpage, right up the page^^^. And go through some of the tutorials or go on the Wikipedia Adventure or post some questions at the Teahouse - you really do need to teach yourself how to edit around here.

I can't even figure out what the heck you are trying to do with your original edits to Baby Driver. There was apparently...maybe...some kind of chemical spill or mishap on some railroad tracks that Spiderman: Homecoming was filmed near or on or close by or something? Besides the fact that this alleged incident seems to have little to do with the movie, you have provided no clear source, no stated references, no published reliable sources like an article in a major newspaper or a story from a network news show or a column in a magazine - all of which would have to have editorial oversight and a reputation for accuracy. I even went looking and tried to research this alleged incident. If it did happen the news doesn't appear to have been reported by any news outlets or published in a reputable online source. If this news hasn't been published in a reliable source then Wikipedia CANNOT use it - our readers MUST be able to verify the information in Wikipedia articles - otherwise this online encyclopedia is useless.

And please stop posting on other editor's user talkpages using the WikiLove option - the purpose of WIkiLove messages is to tell a fellow editor "job well-done" or "thanks for helping me out" or "you're swell" etc. If you wish to post a note on another editor's user talkpage, simply look up at the top of the page, click on New section, post your thoughts, sign them with the Four/4 of these -> ~~~~ (they're called tildes and you'll find it up in the upper left-hand corner of your keyboard), Preview your post, and if you like it hit "Save changes" down in the lower left-hand corner of the editing window.

Which is what I am going to do now. Shearonink (talk) 03:00, 7 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The "Section 3.3" you are referring to across multiple pages on Wikipedia appears to be WP:SELFSOURCE a subsection of WP:IRS, but it does not mean what you think it means. This Wikipedia content guideline explicitly states:

Self-published or questionable sources may be used as sources of information about themselves, especially in articles about themselves, without the requirement that they be published experts in the field, so long as the following criteria are met:

The material is neither unduly self-serving nor an exceptional claim.
It does not involve claims about third parties (such as people, organizations, or other entities).
It does not involve claims about events not directly related to the subject.
There is no reasonable doubt as to its authenticity.
The article is not based primarily on such sources.

So, you can't use yourself or your personal experiences or private correspondence to back up claims on Wikipedia. References/sources have to be published and reliable etc. Shearonink (talk) 03:56, 7 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]