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Kadencje

W infoboxie? Druga powinna sie zmiescic, dodaj w tej samej lini... --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 21:09, 23 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Moim zdaniem wyglada ok, ale badz lysy i ulepsz infobox jak mozesz :) --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 21:44, 23 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Whoops, didn't see that you're an established editor or I wouldn't have templated you - I reverted your edit because you removed the criticism of the report, which looks like it would violate WP:NPOV. If you have an explanation, just let me know and feel free to redo your edit. ThadeusOfNazereth^{Talk to Me!} 23:42, 9 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Repeated unexplained deletion of content

Hi @OspreyPL:. I'm SiberianCat. I notice you have deleted part of the content from the page on Tommy_Suharto. Specifically, you deleted this text: "Tommy sought to appeal to nostalgia for his father's presidency,(ref redacted here) criticizing President Joko Widodo's infrastructure development policy, saying it had caused Indonesia's foreign debt to rise to $340 billion, compared to $54 billion when Suharto was president.(ref redacted here)" You have deleted this without any explanation and without addressing the matter on the article's Talk Page. Could you please offer a valid explanation for your deletion of the text? Thank you. SiberianCat (talk) 08:29, 18 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

His views on President Jokowi presidency, climate change, Paris Hilton drinking habits or anything are irrelevant. Please stop this edit war. Otherwise I will have to contact one of administrators to block you. OspreyPL 12:33, 18 March 2022 (UTC) OspreyPL 12:33, 18 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi @OspreyPL:, thanks for your response. The content which you claim to be irrelevant is not the subject's views on the president. It is about the subject's effort to raise his own political popularity by appealing to nostalgia for the time of his father's rule, by means of criticizing the incumbent president. This has been documented by reputable media sources and is referenced in the text. I'd be grateful if you could please explain how you feel this irrelevant (without trying to tie it to a non sequitur such as Paris Hilton's drinking habits). Thank you. SiberianCat (talk) 14:58, 18 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Saying that he tried to use nostalgia of good old times of his father rule to win an election would suffice. There is no need of explaining his personal views on infrastructure as he is a disgraced murdered and has not much influence. OspreyPL 15:17, 18 March 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for your prompt and civil reply. I do appreciate it. I notice another user has deleted the mention of nostalgia, claiming it comes from a non-neutral and unreliable source (a news article by Reuters) - and that you have therefore deleted the remaining part of the sentence. There are many reliable news sources about the subject's effort to appeal to nostalgia. I disagree that I am explaining the subject's personal views on infrastructure - what I did was give an example of his effort to appeal to nostalgia by criticizing the incumbent's spending (and debt level) on infrastructure. Merely stating that "he attempted to appeal to nostalgia" without providing any evidence or an example - diminishes the credibility of the information. I disagree that a politician's status as having been convicted of murder by proxy should render information about their political platform irrelevant. I also respectfully disagree that the subject "has not much influence". It takes considerable influence to have a jail term substantially reduced. There are also much more recent legal cases that indicate influence. Anyway, I'll move this discussion to the article's talk page. Again, thanks for your civility and explaining your view. SiberianCat (talk) 16:20, 18 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

He has as much as of influence as a mafia boss can have. He can threaten and buy votes for sure. He only got 2%. His party is a fringe movement based purely on a little money he still has and nostalgia of illiterate population that votes for him. Writing down his views on Wikipedia is a bit too much in my opinion. He has no influence on policy of Indonesian state whatsoever. OspreyPL 16:34, 18 March 2022 (UTC)

Thank you again for a prompt and kind reply, and for explaining your feelings on this matter. I disagree that he has "little money". He is ranked number 56 on Forbes' 2021 list of the wealthiest Indonesians. I also think that describing his voters as "illiterate" is unfair, as Indonesia's illiteracy rate is 1.7% and those who voted for his party were not necessarily uneducated. I do understand your viewpoint that his views on politics should not be included on Wikipedia; however, I feel that neutrality is essential, so content should not be expunged merely because of any personal dislike of a subject. SiberianCat (talk) 16:59, 18 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your removal of 38 edits with the explanation "vandalism"

Could you please explain your revert of 38 edits. I provided an edit summary for each one. Each edit was done in good faith and in line with my understanding of wikipedia policy and conventions. Your single revert with the comment "revert Vandalism" is not appropriate. If it was done in error, that is fine - please just correct it, and no hard feelings. :) regards, --Merbabu (talk) 01:00, 21 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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I have been on wikipedia more than 10 years, have editor rights on Polish one, but this will be my last edit. sorry, but that editor is just publishing bullshit. This is my last post / edit wikipedia as I see it's just place full of idiots. OspreyPL (talk) 21:19, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That's up to you and I am sorry you wish to leave. The warning was to alert you that you had made 3 reverts within 24 hours and any more could have led to a block. I did have a check of your edit history before leaving the template as I would not generally use a template for established users. You only have 500 or so edits here, which is why I felt it necessary to alert you, but I was, of course, unaware of you experience elsewhere. Should you change your mind and wish to discuss the matter, the talk page is the place for it. Thanks. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 22:34, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I simply don't have time to argue with such people... OspreyPL (talk) 23:16, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, if you don't have time to discuss a contested edit on the talk page, then yes, you don't have time for Wikipedia. I hope you can find your way back here when your life is less busy. Take care. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 06:50, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Duolingo

You have reverted my edit on the ground that Guarani "is no longer available / supported". But it actually is. I finished the course last month and practice it daily. It's simply hidden on the app, but on the browswer you can see it here (just tested, and still working). If you're not sure, please don't revert. Regards, RodRabelo7 (talk) 19:37, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

By the way, checking your edits on the article, do you have any WP:COIs with Duolingo? RodRabelo7 (talk) 19:49, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not that I know.

"For instance, Bruno Estigarribia stated that, as of 2019, the Guarani course was "seemingly in a development phase" and that it "had many inconsistencies". "

The language was removed from the mobile app because of low quality. They don't want new users to have anything with it. I just don't think it's representative of Duolingo in general.

The app has many flaws, but the "Criticism" could be written much better OspreyPL (talk) 20:35, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I understand your criticism to the Criticism section (no pun intended). But removing content that seems OK and that is factually correct isn't the best solution in my honest opinion. As of 2019, the course was still visible, and citation is needed when you say Guarani "was removed from the mobile app because of low quality". I have always thought it was removed because Duolingo simply didn't want to support it anymore, since they have voluntaries no longer. RodRabelo7 (talk) 20:41, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I use Duolingo Max now, and video calling or chat with lily is science fiction stuff. These posts about how Duolingo is crap because can't teach how to speak are a thing of the past. These people were right in 2019 or 2022 but not now. It's like saying Windows 11 is not a good OS because of some problems with Vista.

I think main flaw of Duolingo is that they have courses of different qualities. Some of them cover B2 and some don't even allow speakers to reach A1.. OspreyPL (talk) 21:44, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Guarani just showed up for me, it's not as short as I thought. 55 levels is not that bad. OspreyPL (talk) 22:02, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I just checked it, and you're right. But it works only if I visit that link on incognito mode. They did it on purpose probably because it just sucks. OspreyPL (talk) 20:31, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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