User talk:Oobooglunk

GamerGate Controversy Edit Request

Hello, @Future Perfect at Sunrise:

I wanted to add an important bit of information to the GamerGate article: the subject of the GameJournoPros mailing list, which was designed as a way for gaming developers, journalists, etc. to "talk about that awful PR person that's giving you trouble and ask for a way around the problem," according to GameJournoPros member Kyle Orland. Here are some links for further information.

The initial evidence of its existence by Milo Yiannopoulos:

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2014/09/17/exposed-the-secret-mailing-list-of-the-gaming-journalism-elite/

A confirmation and apologia of said evidence by Kyle Orland:

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2014/09/addressing-allegations-of-collusion-among-gaming-journalists/

A subsequent response and call to action by Milo Yiannopoulos:

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2014/09/18/the-emails-that-prove-video-games-journalism-must-be-reformed/

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The Fine Young Capitalists

Hi Oobooglunk, Just letting you know that I've reverted the recent addition at The Fine Young Capitalists. While I agree that the addition is in part verified by the source provided, there are some issues with the phrasing that require work to comply with our WP:BLP and WP:NPOV policies.
I'd like to suggest that we workshop the phrasing on the article's Talk page. Please feel free to drop me a note, either here or on my Talk page if you have any questions. - Ryk72 ^'c.s.n.s.' 04:51, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

Hello Ryk72,

Thank you for reaching out to me about this issue. What exactly can I rephrase to decrease the negativity of my edit? The claim that Zoë Quinn bribed and defamed The Fine Young Capitalists does not come from me, nor did I intentionally exaggerate or distort this claim, but The Fine Young Capitalists themselves have gone on record to make the claims of defamation, alleged doxxing, and subsequent bribery that I mentioned in my edit. Moreover, all tensions between Quinn and TFYC have been defused, with the former apologizing and stating that any ostensible animosity on her part was "because she was passionate." Thus, as I see it, the claim that Quinn bribed TFYC is not a form of bias, a personal attack, or any other form of subversion of information than the statement that Robin Hood was a thief. Again, if there is anything in particular about my phrasing that you would like me to improve, either in the article or on this talk page, I would be more than open to suggestions. Oobooglunk (talk) 05:15, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

I think it's not so much about negativity as it is about being a little bit clearer where we're documenting claims or statements that they are claims or statements. I've put down a couple of thoughts at Talk:The Fine Young Capitalists about where I think there might be issues, and will look to provide some more positive suggestions shortly. Other editors might also disagree with my concerns, in which case the information will be fine to be re-added. - Ryk72 ^'c.s.n.s.' 05:47, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

FYI, it's also possible to get opinions from a wider range of editors at WP:BLPN, if you're keen to have other thoughts. - Ryk72 ^'c.s.n.s.' 05:51, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

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Also WRT your above comments, Breitbart isn't considered a reliable source on Wikipedia due to a history of distorting evidence. Brustopher (talk) 11:11, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

Hi, thank you for informing me on this development. If it would be helpful to provide a more reliable source for the claim about GameJournoPros, here's one: http://apgnation.com/articles/2014/09/29/7694/breaking-the-chain-an-interview-with-william-usher Oobooglunk (talk) 18:12, 31 October 2015 (UTC)